knicks1248 wrote:holfresh wrote:knicks1248 wrote:holfresh wrote:Eli has delivered the goods and you can't take that away from him...I would like to see him dominate a season where you can actually savor the victories and a good team..He isn't consistent enough to string together good game after good game...Every big victory seems more like chance than skill..But he has delivered tho..
didnt he throw like a 100 INT's 2 seasons ago, can manning carry his team like rodgers did without a top notch RB. Im a die hard packer fan for 20 yrs, manning is not even 50% of Arod, and i'm not being bias
He isn't that kind of player but you can't take away when he given the opportunities, he stepped up...He isn't the sexy QB..But with a good O-line and Good D-Line, he can get you there...How many Superbowls have Rodgers won?..Eli 2 and counting...Can't knock results...
My best friend is a Big Giants fan, and he always throws that in my face. But again, manning didn't carry the team. Im not saying he's a bad QB, im just saying he is not even top 5, maybe not even top 10.
The difference is, guys like payton, rodgers, drew, wilson, they make their receivers better, manning needs great receivers to make him better.
Did you just put Russell Wilson ahead of Eli and Big Ben? Wilson is far below those 2 as starting QB's. Talk about a guy who benefitted from a all world defense! Wilson is the one who is severely overpaid here. He is a game manager. His IQ and feet make him a really good game manager which makes up for his lack of physical skills but he can't carry a team the way the other hall of fame bound QB's can. If Wilson and Rivers are making that kind of coin then there is no reason why shouldn't be paid equal value of greater. It is a team game. End of story.
Eli and the offense is fine. O-line should improve based on familiarity alone. It's the defense that's the big question mark. And he thought that Eli doesn't make his WR's better is insane. Yes he misses Plexico but he still managed to win another Super Bowl without him. Why you ask? Because he Nicks & Cruz blossomed into top notch WR's under Eli. They weren't signed to help Eli! Eli played a part in their development! And now he is doing the same with Beckham! Come on guys think for a minute. What all pro WR has the duck arm Russell Wilson produce. Let me sit back and wait for an answer.
It sucks at Eli is going to use up so much of he cap but every top team is dealing with high priced QB's. Most Havent accomplished what Eli has. The way you get around it is by continuing to draft well. Continuing to draft filthy animal pass rushers like Strahan, Tuck, Osi, Kiwi, JPP, Moore & Double O. Successful teams draft incredibl well. Same in any sport. Knicks overpay 2nd tier players and then go out and draft epic busts or worse they trade their high lottery picks. That right there is the different between the Giants, Rangers & now the Mets and maybe the Yankees. Knicks are trying to do it the right way now. The Jets are still waiting to draft that franchise QB like 75% of the league are