http://nypost.com/2015/07/18/emmanuel-mudiay-relieved-he-avoided-knicks-triangle/

the Knicks can keep up to 15 guys on the roster, with a 12-man "active" and a 3-man "inactive" roster. guys who are sent to the D League are on the "inactive" roster. i see the Knicks have 11 guys under contract as of today, with 2 more on non-guaranteed deals (age at the start of the season in parenthesis):

1. C. Anthony (31) - 4 years, $101.6 million remaining
2. R. Lopez (27) - 4 years, $54 mil
3. A. Afflalo (30) - 2 years, $16 mil
4. J. Calderon (34) - 2 years, $15.1 mil
5. D. Williams (24) - 2 years, $10 mil
6. K. O'Quinn (25) - 4 years, $16 mil
7. L. Amundson (32) - 1 year, $1.65 mil
8. L. Thomas (27) - 1 year, $1.63 mil
9. K. Porzingis (20) - 4 years, $18 mil (#'s based on last year's #4 pick)
10. J. Grant (23) - 4 years, $7.3 mil (#'s based on last year's #19 pick)
11. C. Early (24) - 1 year, $845K
12. L. Galloway (23) - 1 year, $845K [not guaranteed; $440K guaranteed if not waived by Sept. 15]
13. R. Ledo (23) - 1 year, $947K [not guaranteed; $100k guaranteed if not waived on or before August 1, $200k guaranteed if on opening day roster]

am I missing anyone? has there been any indication they will sign anyone else? otherwise, i see two roster spots open and see no reason why we wouldn't sign Ndour. even if the plan was to sign him and have him and Ledo in Westchester for most of the season working on their game, just from a depth perspective, it would be a good thing to have a few more assets and guys with upside.

also, our overseas assets are Hernangomez and Labeyrie. presumably Hernangomez comes over next season.

BigSm00th wrote:Thanasis and Travis Wear are both on the outside looking in, in my opinion. i'd rather keep Thanasis over Wear and plant him in the D League again for another season. i see no reason at all to keep Wear, the guy brings nothing to the table.

also, our overseas assets are Hernangomez and Labeyrie. presumably Hernangomez comes over next season.

I like Wear, and actually thinks he brings some positive things to the table, but if there was one guy returning from last year who had to make a statement in SL, it was Wear, and I saw no significant changes to his game.

If he could shoot from deep the way Novak could a few years ago, or if he had improved his ability to get to the basket and finish or be fouled, he might have a chance, but he really needed to come to SL with a more polished game, or at least one major improvement- especially on the offensive end... and I did not see this.

dk7th wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

BigSm00th wrote:Thanasis and Travis Wear are both on the outside looking in, in my opinion. i'd rather keep Thanasis over Wear and plant him in the D League again for another season. i see no reason at all to keep Wear, the guy brings nothing to the table.

also, our overseas assets are Hernangomez and Labeyrie. presumably Hernangomez comes over next season.

I like Wear, and actually thinks he brings some positive things to the table, but if there was one guy returning from last year who had to make a statement in SL, it was Wear, and I saw no significant changes to his game.

If he could shoot from deep the way Novak could a few years ago, or if he had improved his ability to get to the basket and finish or be fouled, he might have a chance, but he really needed to come to SL with a more polished game, or at least one major improvement- especially on the offensive end... and I did not see this.

i thought he looked much better in real nba games last season, so maybe it's a question of context? he did not look good in summer league that is for sure.

and just from an upside perspective, he'll be 25 when the season starts, he's not overly athletic, he doesn't shoot the lights out. if we are talking about filling the last one or two roster spots with a guy who could develop into something, i'd rather roll the dice on Thanasis and Ndour - both are 23 next season, so two years younger, both way more athletic, and Ndour has flashed more diverse skills on both sides of the ball.

PG: Calderon, Grant, Galloway
SG: Afflalo, Ledo
SF: Anthony, Thomas, Early, Antetokounmpo
PF: Porzingis, Williams, Amundson, Ndour
C: Lopez, O'Quinn

i'd be entirely happy with that team. i'd send Ledo, Thanasis, and Mo straight to the D League with specific things to work on. that would give us 9 players who were 25 and under and in the NBA or D League, with Hernangomez and Labeyrie overseas being 10 and 11.

BigSm00th wrote:assuming they keep Galloway and Ledo, and then they sign Ndour and Thanasis to round out the roster, we'd be looking at the following depth chart:

PG: Calderon, Grant, Galloway
SG: Afflalo, Ledo
SF: Anthony, Thomas, Early, Antetokounmpo
PF: Porzingis, Williams, Amundson, Ndour
C: Lopez, O'Quinn

i'd be entirely happy with that team. i'd send Ledo, Thanasis, and Mo straight to the D League with specific things to work on. that would give us 9 players who were 25 and under and in the NBA or D League, with Hernangomez and Labeyrie overseas being 10 and 11.

Galloway will be back...I think they will try to pick someone up and Ledo and this person will compete.

Still not sure about Thanasis. I would love for him to figure things out, because of his athletic ability and desire- just don't know, though.

The Knicks really need a back up center more than anything. There is also the outside possibility that Phil makes another trade.

Ndour is everything we want in a player but we do have Melo, Cleananthony and Lance. Plus plenty of perimeter players.

EnySpree wrote:The truth is the Knicks have a big pool of talent to sort out for the last 2 and possibly 3 roster spots.

The Knicks really need a back up center more than anything. There is also the outside possibility that Phil makes another trade.

Ndour is everything we want in a player but we do have Melo, Cleananthony and Lance. Plus plenty of perimeter players.

Eny, you don't like KOQ as the backup C?

if Lopez plays 30 minutes a night, all at Center, that leaves 18 minutes for the backup. i'd imagine KOQ takes the bulk of those 18 minutes, with KP filling in for a few as well. for depth i'd like to add another big but I think we have C covered decently

BRIGGS wrote:It's a strange line up. It will consist of older slower players in unit 1. We need Grant to score 12-14 and shoot over 43% for what we could've had. Also hope Ledo can step up and make the team he didn't make it from sl play

I have to wonder if drafting Andersen and Powell would've addressed more pressing issues. Andersen looks like he could start 3 with melo at 4. Powell was the best looking 2 way guard in the draft

who cares about the short term? this team is going nowhere fast. i'd much rather take the chance on a potential All-NBA guy in KP if his body and game develop right. Anderson and Powell may be nice starters one day but neither has that sort of upside.

BigSm00th wrote:

EnySpree wrote:The truth is the Knicks have a big pool of talent to sort out for the last 2 and possibly 3 roster spots.

The Knicks really need a back up center more than anything. There is also the outside possibility that Phil makes another trade.

Ndour is everything we want in a player but we do have Melo, Cleananthony and Lance. Plus plenty of perimeter players.

Eny, you don't like KOQ as the backup C?

if Lopez plays 30 minutes a night, all at Center, that leaves 18 minutes for the backup. i'd imagine KOQ takes the bulk of those 18 minutes, with KP filling in for a few as well. for depth i'd like to add another big but I think we have C covered decently

I'm very high on the O'Quinn signing. I think he could actually start at the 4, but playing him off the bench is very solid. I'm hoping Fisher can work the rotation where all the bigs split their time pretty much evenly. We need everyone engaged and contributing.

There is plenty of talent out there still. Case in point, Carlos Boozer would be a great minimum signing. Elliott williams too, along with KD McDaniels. Alex Kirk looked good for us too. Ben Gordon is out there. Fab Melo, Jeff Withey...Austin Daye. So much talent out there

BRIGGS wrote:It's a strange line up. It will consist of older slower players in unit 1. We need Grant to score 12-14 and shoot over 43% for what we could've had. Also hope Ledo can step up and make the team he didn't make it from sl play

I have to wonder if drafting Andersen and Powell would've addressed more pressing issues. Andersen looks like he could start 3 with melo at 4. Powell was the best looking 2 way guard in the draft

Of course the young players are distinctly much quicker and athletic by comparison. RoLo, Afflalo, Jose and Melo are not too slow to get up and down. They may not be the fastest players in the league but they can get up and down well enough. Jose and Melo are laterally challenged on D but they can move straight ahead at a good enough speed to keep up with a slightly faster pace.

It seems to me that the Knicks are aware they need another quick/fast guard to help make the team faster overall. Fish, Phil and Mills have mentioned that. It seems like they're going to keep their options open and see if they can pounce on a guard that fits what they're looking for. I would guess the same goes for the last C spot.