Do you guys think that at this point in his career he's willing to drop under 20PPG and maybe average 4+APG, for the first time in his career?

Would be be satisfied if he was the second leading scorer on the team?

Would he be willing to miss being voted into an All-Star game because he is playing a more team oriented game?

Just something to think about.

WaltLongmire wrote:Anthony still had to buy into Phil's master plan...

Do you guys think that at this point in his career he's willing to drop under 20PPG and maybe average 4+APG, for the first time in his career?

Would be be satisfied if he was the second leading scorer on the team?

Would he be willing to miss being voted into an All-Star game because he is playing a more team oriented game?

Just something to think about.

the same question is asked and answered every year. I think that we have to temper our expectations. Melo likes buckets not dimes.

2012-13 Knicks 54-28 ECS

Rk Player	        Age	G	GS	MP	PTS ▾
1  Carmelo Anthony	28	67	67	37.0	28.7
2  J.R. Smith	        27	80	0	33.5	18.1
3  Amar'e Stoudemire	30	29	0	23.5	14.2
4  Raymond Felton	28	68	68	34.0	13.9
5  Tyson Chandler	30	66	66	32.8	10.4
6  Chris Copeland	28	56	13	15.4	8.7
7  Kenyon Martin	35	18	11	23.9	7.2
8  Rasheed Wallace	38	21	0	14.1	7.0
9  Iman Shumpert	22	45	45	22.1	6.8
10 Steve Novak	        29	81	1	20.3	6.6
11 Jason Kidd	        39	76	48	26.9	6.0
12 Pablo Prigioni	35	78	18	16.2	3.5

2008-09 Nuggets 54-28 WCF

Rk Player	        Age	G	GS	MP	PTS ▾
1  Carmelo Anthony	24	66	66	34.5	22.8
2  Chauncey Billups     32	77	77	35.3	17.9
3  J.R. Smith	        23	81	18	27.7	15.2
4  Nene Hilario	        26	77	76	32.6	14.6
5  Kenyon Martin	31	66	66	32.0	11.7
6  Linas Kleiza	        24	82	7	22.2	9.9	
7  Chris Andersen	30	71	1	20.6	6.4	
8  Dahntay Jones	28	79	71	18.1	5.4	
9  Anthony Carter	33	78	5	22.9	5.3	
10 Renaldo Balkman	24	53	10	14.7	5.0

Just looking at the list above it's going to be important that Afflalo has a good year. That 2nd scoring option behind Melo is a very important factor. The starting C spot is also very important and I think RoLo will be solid enough in that spot. I think between Jerian and Jose that there should be enough at guard tho it would be good to add another quality guard to the mix. Losing Shved was tough but Phil has to find a comparable or better big combo guard with speed to replace him.

The teams Melo has had were never great, but a solid roster around him is very doable and I think that is what Phil is doing. The X factor is how quickly our young players can develop and help. As they say Lebron isn't walking thru the locker room door so they have to develop their own stars.

knicks1248 wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:To be a success for a very long time. Although I don't think Carmelo realizes it, but if you look at the talents Phil has assembled this season, you can easily see that he had Carmelo in mind. He knows Carmelo's strengths and weaknesses; to complement both, he amassed guys who can defend and are not selfish ballers. He even went as far as solving the leadership issues in my opinion and that will definitely make the Knicks a much better team next season.

Now all we need is for Carmelo to show support and assume his responsibility. We know he can score and rebound the ball; what we all want to see now is how much he truly wants to win. He needs to learn to share the ball a little and that remains to be seen.

Phil did a terrible job in his first year, but he appears to have learned from his mistakes.

What makes you think he doesn't realize, it's ridiculous that the media can post a speculated assumption that melo is somewhat not on board, and people run with that like melo this and melo that... but then when melo comes right out on social media and states he has no issues with what phil is doing, people brush it under the rug and roll their eyes.

Then there guys like stephen a, barkley, k mart, who critic phil for not landing a big name FA or high jacking draft picks from other teams, like phil was suppose to put a gun to these FA's head and threaten to wipe their families out if they don't sign with us.

In my book, action speaks louder then words. Carmelo could have scratched all of that by showing up in Vegas and sit next to Phil for just two minutes. This is what you call photo op. Which is not too late.

Knicks1969 wrote:To be a success for a very long time. Although I don't think Carmelo realizes it, but if you look at the talents Phil has assembled this season, you can easily see that he had Carmelo in mind. He knows Carmelo's strengths and weaknesses; to complement both, he amassed guys who can defend and are not selfish ballers. He even went as far as solving the leadership issues in my opinion and that will definitely make the Knicks a much better team next season.

Now all we need is for Carmelo to show support and assume his responsibility. We know he can score and rebound the ball; what we all want to see now is how much he truly wants to win. He needs to learn to share the ball a little and that remains to be seen.

Phil did a terrible job in his first year, but he appears to have learned from his mistakes.

Well first of all i'm one of the ones that don't think Phil did a terrible job last year. Did it go like we hoped and Phil thought it would go?? No but that wasn't the fault of what Phil did. A lot of different things went into it being a bad year last year and not all was on Phil. I want to say about the comment that is made a lot about Melo not sharing the ball that if you watched all the games last year youn would have seen that he did pass the ball around a lot last year but it seemed like nobody wanted to take the shot so the ball would just get passed around and eventually would always land back in Melo's hands so he would have to put up the shot cause the clock would be down and with this team Phil has built you guys better expect Melo to be shooting a lot again cause we don't have another true scorer on the team. I just think Melo takes more heat for shooting so much than he should.

knicks1248 wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:To be a success for a very long time. Although I don't think Carmelo realizes it, but if you look at the talents Phil has assembled this season, you can easily see that he had Carmelo in mind. He knows Carmelo's strengths and weaknesses; to complement both, he amassed guys who can defend and are not selfish ballers. He even went as far as solving the leadership issues in my opinion and that will definitely make the Knicks a much better team next season.

Now all we need is for Carmelo to show support and assume his responsibility. We know he can score and rebound the ball; what we all want to see now is how much he truly wants to win. He needs to learn to share the ball a little and that remains to be seen.

Phil did a terrible job in his first year, but he appears to have learned from his mistakes.

What makes you think he doesn't realize, it's ridiculous that the media can post a speculated assumption that melo is somewhat not on board, and people run with that like melo this and melo that... but then when melo comes right out on social media and states he has no issues with what phil is doing, people brush it under the rug and roll their eyes.

Then there guys like stephen a, barkley, k mart, who critic phil for not landing a big name FA or high jacking draft picks from other teams, like phil was suppose to put a gun to these FA's head and threaten to wipe their families out if they don't sign with us.

mreinman wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:Anthony still had to buy into Phil's master plan...

Do you guys think that at this point in his career he's willing to drop under 20PPG and maybe average 4+APG, for the first time in his career?

Would be be satisfied if he was the second leading scorer on the team?

Would he be willing to miss being voted into an All-Star game because he is playing a more team oriented game?

Just something to think about.

the same question is asked and answered every year. I think that we have to temper our expectations. Melo likes buckets not dimes.

I dont think this is the ideal unit to drop below 20 pts per and still expect W's...We dont have any other consistent or reliable options to get buckets...We can preach ball movement, which is great, but unfortunately we dont have the same the of talent as the Hawks, etc.

Uptown wrote:

mreinman wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:Anthony still had to buy into Phil's master plan...

Do you guys think that at this point in his career he's willing to drop under 20PPG and maybe average 4+APG, for the first time in his career?

Would be be satisfied if he was the second leading scorer on the team?

Would he be willing to miss being voted into an All-Star game because he is playing a more team oriented game?

Just something to think about.

the same question is asked and answered every year. I think that we have to temper our expectations. Melo likes buckets not dimes.

I dont think this is the ideal unit to drop below 20 pts per and still expect W's...We dont have any other consistent or reliable options to get buckets...We can preach ball movement, which is great, but unfortunately we dont have the same the of talent as the Hawks, etc.

If we can get points from Afflalo and Williams, a little offensive contribution from the PG and front court, we will surprise a lot of teams in the league