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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
7/5/2015 4:52 PM
yes. we should give him Jason Smiths shot selection. good idea.
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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franco12
Posts: 34069 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 2/19/2004 Member: #599 USA |
7/5/2015 9:02 PM
mreinman wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:franco12 wrote:when we dropped to four, I wanted to start a thread about what was the minimum contribution we had to get out of the pick, regardless of who it was. I don't think its ridiculous to expect a fourth pick to contribute, especially when you are looking at a team that last year produced only 17 wins. I think its reasonable to expect him to play at least 20 minutes a game - otherwise, he's not being developed or is maybe not that good. Do we get 8 pts? 10? 12? 6 rebs? 3 Ast? I don't think 8pts, 6 rebs & 2 ast is unreasonable, is it? |
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LivingLegend
Posts: 25763 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 8/13/2007 Member: #1645 |
7/5/2015 10:00 PM
BRIGGS wrote:He's played in a professional league he should be able to dominate inside right away either from the high post or at the rim. I don't think kp has the feel for the game like Kaminsky yet I think using him with his dominating length and size inside on BOTH ends where he shots 10 feet and in. We've got a good pg who will be able to set him up We run the triangle Briggs our positions and our offense are defined. We may feature some pick and pop with Kristaps but the bulk of what we do will be right out of the normal triangle sets Phil has been running for ages. Kristaps will get the ball in the deep post, mid-post, elbow and the wing off of weak side pick and roll action. Don't need some special **** just run the offense and let his natural skill/talent flush out. |
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meloshouldgo
Posts: 26565 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/3/2014 Member: #5801 |
7/5/2015 10:17 PM
franco12 wrote:mreinman wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:franco12 wrote:when we dropped to four, I wanted to start a thread about what was the minimum contribution we had to get out of the pick, regardless of who it was. Our 21 Million player gets us 24 points 6.5 rebs and 3 assists, so yes it's completely unfair to expect a third of that production in PPG and the exact same production elsewhere from a guy making less than a fifth of his salary. I cannot teach anybody anything. I can only try to make them think - Socrates
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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
7/5/2015 11:03 PM
The Triangle basically assures we will do this.
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
7/5/2015 11:22 PM
crzymdups wrote:The Triangle basically assures we will do this. The sl knicks will not be running any triangle. This is up and down basketball. RIP Crushalot😞
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TPercy
Posts: 28010 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/5/2014 Member: #5748 |
7/5/2015 11:32 PM
BRIGGS wrote:crzymdups wrote:The Triangle basically assures we will do this. How so? The Future is Bright!
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WaltLongmire
Posts: 27623 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/28/2014 Member: #5843 |
7/5/2015 11:39 PM
Not sure he is a back to the basket big man at this point in his career. You figure they will give him some shots down low, but I would think they would do some of the pick and pops Calderon had success with paired with J.Smith.
Porzingis was a stretch 4 in Europe. Does not seem like a position we really utilize much in the Triangle. Might see some more pick and rolls with him, too. He can actually cut to the basket well... O'Quinn might hook him up with some of those high post passes of his. Jackson and Fisher will put him into a position where he can utilize his ability- what that is...I don't know.
EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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DJMUSIC
Posts: 22906 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/30/2007 Member: #1283 |
7/5/2015 11:46 PM
BRIGGS wrote:He's played in a professional league he should be able to dominate inside right away either from the high post or at the rim. I don't think kp has the feel for the game like Kaminsky yet I think using him with his dominating length and size inside on BOTH ends where he shots 10 feet and in. We've got a good pg who will be able to set him up Unless knicks aren't confirming summer play on KP injury, reckon summer league play is MOST time anyone will see #4th pick However in NBA level play when a player such as KP is a project & we're talking post play KP is going I don't know how many minutes or any play will justify being in gym bulking up Obvisious his skill is all offensive touted, KP is said to be a poor defender And also not good rebounder which will inhibit chances on floor playing time to develop. Just going by the nba experts and folks whom seen him play at competitive europe play This is NBA and I am sure he'll learn but I do not see him being too much of a contributor factor at all until his Turntable Musiclover & Mix-Master-ologist
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DJMUSIC
Posts: 22906 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/30/2007 Member: #1283 |
7/5/2015 11:47 PM
mreinman wrote:yes. we should give him Jason Smiths shot selection. good idea. You give KP jason smiths shots and more importantly minutes/court time KP will get hurt Turntable Musiclover & Mix-Master-ologist
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
7/6/2015 1:06 AM
DJMUSIC wrote:mreinman wrote:yes. we should give him Jason Smiths shot selection. good idea. KP has to learn and adjust to the more physical nature of the NBA just like any other rookie. Still it doesn't mean he's gonna be at risk of injury playing a similar role to that of Jason Smith and Bargs last year. KP was already playing against men in a pro league. He's already experienced some banging with bigger players. The NBA will be a step above that, but not so dissimilar from what he experienced in the ACB. He's learned a little bit of how to play and not get too caught up fighting with bigger players but rather to work in the post by facing up rather than staying back to basket. He doesn't have an advantage against heavier players with his back turned but when he gets the ball and faces up he's the one with the advantage. He's got some things to learn, but I think he can do it based on his ACB performance. |