Robin Lopez-4 year/54m deal.
Grade:B
We got a quality PROVEN rim protector and leader in his prime. It was costly, but we didn't really have that much of a choice, especially since there was lack of options for less money.

Derrick Williams 2 year/10m deal with player option second year
Grade: D-/D
Yes, yes he has "upside" and good potential, but he can't pass, defend, rebound, and is a major softie and from what I hear doesn't put in the work to get better. I don't know how in the world he can fit in the triangle. He is worth close to a vet mind deal. We could have added another two million and tried and pushed hard for a proven two way player like Brandon Bass. If he can turn out to be another "Shved" here, then that is great, but I don't see the likely hood of that happening.

TPercy wrote:Arron Afflalo-2 year/18m deal with player option the second year.
Grade: B+
This was a whole lot less than I thought it would be, and we were in urgent need of a starting SG for next year albeit, some of his stats are not great and he is not the same as he was before, but he is a good 3pt shooter, adequate defender, and can take the scoring load off of Melo.

Robin Lopez-4 year/54m deal.
Grade:B
We got a quality PROVEN rim protector and leader in his prime. It was costly, but we didn't really have that much of a choice, especially since there was lack of options for less money.

Derrick Williams 2 year/10m deal with player option second year
Grade: D-/D
Yes, yes he has "upside" and good potential, but he can't pass, defend, rebound, and is a major softie and from what I hear doesn't put in the work to get better. I don't know how in the world he can fit in the triangle. He is worth close to a vet mind deal. We could have added another two million and tried and pushed hard for a proven two way player like Brandon Bass. If he can turn out to be another "Shved" here, then that is great, but I don't see the likely hood of that happening.

I think he made the best moves possible, and did so in the context of team.

I think my biggest criticism is the money and term- the fact that Derrick Williams has a player option & Robin Lopez is as long as it is for the money.

But, I think any of the deals/players will be moveable in the future.

Someone on another forum said Derrick Williams was a classic Warkentian reclamation project in the vein of Chris Andersen, Dahntay Jones, Afflalo, etc. Seems like Warky still has a voice in the front office.

I'm wait and see on a lot of this, but I can see a world in which this team competes for an eight seed if a lot goes right. Luckily we are in the East.

Bonn1997 wrote:I was planning to post a summary of the metrics later but based on them, I'd give the Lopez signing a B+ and the Williams and Afflalo ones both Ds.

Using the old eye test, I concur!

Though Afflalo used to be good a few seasons ago, unfortunately the rot set in 2 seasons ago, and it's rare for a player to significantly turn around after that. Would be nice if he did- he used to be a very good defender and had a passion for the game.

Bonn1997 wrote:I was planning to post a summary of the metrics later but based on them, I'd give the Lopez signing a B+ and the Williams and Afflalo ones both Ds.

I'd probably give the Williams and Afflalo deals a C-. If they had gone longer than 2 years they'd be Ds of Fs.

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:I was planning to post a summary of the metrics later but based on them, I'd give the Lopez signing a B+ and the Williams and Afflalo ones both Ds.

I'd probably give the Williams and Afflalo deals a C-. If they had gone longer than 2 years they'd be Ds of Fs.

Yeah that's reasonable but the bottom line for me is that there are so many other ways I'd rather explore using 13 mil in cap space. That's almost half of our entire cap space.

Definitely. I'd give up all three signings to have done that Sacramento deal instead.

BRIGGS wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:I was planning to post a summary of the metrics later but based on them, I'd give the Lopez signing a B+ and the WilliaVcouAfflalo ones both Ds.

I'd probably give the Williams and Afflalo deals a C-. If they had gone longer than 2 years they'd be Ds of Fs.

Yeah that's reasonable but the bottom line for me is that there are so many other ways I'd rather explore using 13 mil in cap space. That's almost half of our entire cap space.

Definitely. I'd give up all three signings to have done that Sacramento deal instead.

Vcoug I'm not sure we got better players thN Thompson Landry of staukus.

I'd say Lopez is pretty clearly better but the others are questionable at best.

BRIGGS wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:I was planning to post a summary of the metrics later but based on them, I'd give the Lopez signing a B+ and the WilliaVcouAfflalo ones both Ds.

I'd probably give the Williams and Afflalo deals a C-. If they had gone longer than 2 years they'd be Ds of Fs.

Yeah that's reasonable but the bottom line for me is that there are so many other ways I'd rather explore using 13 mil in cap space. That's almost half of our entire cap space.

Definitely. I'd give up all three signings to have done that Sacramento deal instead.

Vcoug I'm not sure we got better players thN Thompson Landry of staukus.

That is exactly my point, if we are going to suck which we likely will, at the very least get draft picks out of it, instead of overpaying for role players when we lack draft picks/assets moving forward
While utilizing our ability to sign players to showcase their talents with playing time on cap friendly deals

Like Wesley Johnson, who signed 2 vet min contract with The Lakers, at one point, Nick Young/Jodie Meeks for vet mins (possible players that could be traded for assets moving forward)
James Johnson, Danny Green/Gereld Green/Gary Neal, Brandon Wright, Anthony Morrow, DJ Augustine/many Chicago's past PG's, Livingston, Andray Blatche, players that signed vet min deals at one point in recent years on top of D League acquisitions
It would be nice to be able to hit the BIG Jackpot for Whiteside for nothing, even role players like Tyler Johnson/Jabari Brown/Justin Holiday/Dewayne Dedmon etc, for vet min steals to develop

Then there are players like Marco Bellineli/DeMaRRe Carroll who signed a 2year deal on low contract, 2.5m, 2year deal with Atlanta after not getting much playing time in Utah
Someone like Jeremy Evans that could likely be signed for a 2year vet min deal, possibly guaranteed as he has little leverage right now to stay in the League
As well as Javale McGee and even Larry Sanders, Thabeet, for 2year deals that could be partial guaranteed/non guaranteed...

On top of that, likely have CA demand a trade so we can get back assets and better utilize his cap space
If we didn't have his contract and his big black book, which would have allowed us to sign Greg Monroe and 2 other players this summer