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ankurk
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7/1/2015  10:39 PM
We can't sign a single player

Nobody wants to come to New York

What do we even sell them on?

What is the point of even meeting with LaMarcus? WTH are we going to say to him???!?!?

Hello Mr. Aldridge why don't you come to NY instead of going back home to Texas and playing for perennial championship contenders. I know we don't have kwahi, green, duncan, ginobili, parker but we do have grant, galloway, carmelo and porzingis! What's the point of going to play for a coach that already has such a great name and winning history in Popovich when you can come and help build a name for 2nd year Fisher who doesn't know what to do half the time? You would be silly to live in Texas and take home more after taxes rather than coming to NY and being eaten up by the higher cost of living!

We have absolutely nothing going for us

Our "star" player has a messed up rotator cuff and is coming off of knee surgery

We have no second scorer

We're not even up to the standards of JJ Barea - he won't even consider us.

We don't even have a draft pick next year

What now... what the hell do we do now?!!??!?

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anrst
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7/1/2015  10:45 PM
most of its Melo.

the stink of losing doesn't help.

but who the hell would wanna play with this chucker?

maybe rondo, bc of assists. but anyone still relevant has no interest.

Vmart
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7/1/2015  10:50 PM
I would stay calm. Players today want easy ask yourself you want players that want it easy. They are admitting that they aren't good enough to be the man essentially that is what it is joining the Knicks. It's not a ready made situation. You want players that want to come hereabout make it a ready made situation.
callmened
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7/1/2015  10:51 PM
yea guys its only day 1. dont panic yet
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
wargames
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7/1/2015  10:55 PM
callmened wrote:yea guys its only day 1. dont panic yet

From their post I would say they've completely panicked

The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
callmened
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7/1/2015  10:56 PM
wargames wrote:
callmened wrote:yea guys its only day 1. dont panic yet

From their post I would say they've completely panicked

lol.i mean i get it. im frustrated too but i havent pushed the panic button yet

Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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7/1/2015  11:07 PM
ankurk wrote:We can't sign a single player

Nobody wants to come to New York

What do we even sell them on?

What is the point of even meeting with LaMarcus? WTH are we going to say to him???!?!?

Hello Mr. Aldridge why don't you come to NY instead of going back home to Texas and playing for perennial championship contenders. I know we don't have kwahi, green, duncan, ginobili, parker but we do have grant, galloway, carmelo and porzingis! What's the point of going to play for a coach that already has such a great name and winning history in Popovich when you can come and help build a name for 2nd year Fisher who doesn't know what to do half the time? You would be silly to live in Texas and take home more after taxes rather than coming to NY and being eaten up by the higher cost of living!

We have absolutely nothing going for us

Our "star" player has a messed up rotator cuff and is coming off of knee surgery

We have no second scorer

We're not even up to the standards of JJ Barea - he won't even consider us.

We don't even have a draft pick next year

What now... what the hell do we do now?!!??!?

Yes your right. You should definitely go root for the Nets! Did you really expect to get any of the recently signed players? Most will use other teams to get max deals from current teams and others will get over paid from sucker GMs. Glad we are not the suckers. Trust the time it takes to truly rebuild. Knee jerk signings is what got us into trouble. The only guy worth paying for and truly available is Aldridge but he wants to win now so don't think he is coming. Unless Phil pulls one out of his triangle arse.

Bonn1997
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7/1/2015  11:10 PM
RedmenBaller wrote:
ankurk wrote:We can't sign a single player

Nobody wants to come to New York

What do we even sell them on?

What is the point of even meeting with LaMarcus? WTH are we going to say to him???!?!?

Hello Mr. Aldridge why don't you come to NY instead of going back home to Texas and playing for perennial championship contenders. I know we don't have kwahi, green, duncan, ginobili, parker but we do have grant, galloway, carmelo and porzingis! What's the point of going to play for a coach that already has such a great name and winning history in Popovich when you can come and help build a name for 2nd year Fisher who doesn't know what to do half the time? You would be silly to live in Texas and take home more after taxes rather than coming to NY and being eaten up by the higher cost of living!

We have absolutely nothing going for us

Our "star" player has a messed up rotator cuff and is coming off of knee surgery

We have no second scorer

We're not even up to the standards of JJ Barea - he won't even consider us.

We don't even have a draft pick next year

What now... what the hell do we do now?!!??!?

Yes your right. You should definitely go root for the Nets! Did you really expect to get any of the recently signed players? Most will use other teams to get max deals from current teams and others will get over paid from sucker GMs. Glad we are not the suckers. Trust the time it takes to truly rebuild. Knee jerk signings is what got us into trouble. The only guy worth paying for and truly available is Aldridge but he wants to win now so don't think he is coming. Unless Phil pulls one out of his triangle arse.


Yeah but 16 months into Phil's contract the best veteran he's added might be Jose Calderon. That's scary.
CrushAlot
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7/1/2015  11:13 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
RedmenBaller wrote:
ankurk wrote:We can't sign a single player

Nobody wants to come to New York

What do we even sell them on?

What is the point of even meeting with LaMarcus? WTH are we going to say to him???!?!?

Hello Mr. Aldridge why don't you come to NY instead of going back home to Texas and playing for perennial championship contenders. I know we don't have kwahi, green, duncan, ginobili, parker but we do have grant, galloway, carmelo and porzingis! What's the point of going to play for a coach that already has such a great name and winning history in Popovich when you can come and help build a name for 2nd year Fisher who doesn't know what to do half the time? You would be silly to live in Texas and take home more after taxes rather than coming to NY and being eaten up by the higher cost of living!

We have absolutely nothing going for us

Our "star" player has a messed up rotator cuff and is coming off of knee surgery

We have no second scorer

We're not even up to the standards of JJ Barea - he won't even consider us.

We don't even have a draft pick next year

What now... what the hell do we do now?!!??!?

Yes your right. You should definitely go root for the Nets! Did you really expect to get any of the recently signed players? Most will use other teams to get max deals from current teams and others will get over paid from sucker GMs. Glad we are not the suckers. Trust the time it takes to truly rebuild. Knee jerk signings is what got us into trouble. The only guy worth paying for and truly available is Aldridge but he wants to win now so don't think he is coming. Unless Phil pulls one out of his triangle arse.


Yeah but 16 months into Phil's contract the best veteran he's added might be Jose Calderon. That's scary.

First day that he has had money to spend since he has been in the position. Time for him to cash in his chips on the first day of free agency?
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
toodarkmark
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7/1/2015  11:13 PM
Bad trades. No assets. A project 1st round pick. No top free agents showing any interest in signing with New York. I mean. How do you argue with the premise of this thread?
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dk7th
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7/1/2015  11:19 PM
Vmart wrote:I would stay calm. Players today want easy ask yourself you want players that want it easy. They are admitting that they aren't good enough to be the man essentially that is what it is joining the Knicks. It's not a ready made situation. You want players that want to come hereabout make it a ready made situation.

come on now. these guys want to go to a winning situation.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
nixluva
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7/1/2015  11:22 PM
toodarkmark wrote:Bad trades. No assets. A project 1st round pick. No top free agents showing any interest in signing with New York. I mean. How do you argue with the premise of this thread?

Wait Phil is meeting with top Free Agents!!! Not all FA's were going to be a fit here. Not all FA's wanted to come. It really isn't like we can just tell players they have to sign here. Some players are staying with their teams and getting PAID. Right now the Knicks are still in the mix for some guys and then there are other options after the top guys are all gone.

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7/1/2015  11:26 PM
There are players that can really play left...plenty
CrushAlot
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7/1/2015  11:26 PM
dk7th wrote:
Vmart wrote:I would stay calm. Players today want easy ask yourself you want players that want it easy. They are admitting that they aren't good enough to be the man essentially that is what it is joining the Knicks. It's not a ready made situation. You want players that want to come hereabout make it a ready made situation.

come on now. these guys want to go to a winning situation.

Almost every player went back to their own team. Carroll left a 60 win team. Aldridge probably goes where he knows he will win but he is the only guy I can think of that is going to a better situation then the one he left.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
arkrud
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7/1/2015  11:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/1/2015  11:31 PM
dk7th wrote:
Vmart wrote:I would stay calm. Players today want easy ask yourself you want players that want it easy. They are admitting that they aren't good enough to be the man essentially that is what it is joining the Knicks. It's not a ready made situation. You want players that want to come hereabout make it a ready made situation.

come on now. these guys want to go to a winning situation.

This is the problem and the solution.
Shitty team like Knicks can only get better from within.
That's why it will take a while.
Even Dolan get it and insisted on Melo to be around for the time of rebuild to guaranty tickets sales for MSG... and suffer for the money he get paid.
More money - more suffering.
And Phil knows surely well this team will not be any good before his contract in NY will expire.
He wants to get GM experience for Dolan money and a lot of fun...
He likes this all NYC balls bouncing.
We know Drama!!!

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
fwk00
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7/1/2015  11:36 PM
Vmart wrote:I would stay calm. Players today want easy ask yourself you want players that want it easy. They are admitting that they aren't good enough to be the man essentially that is what it is joining the Knicks. It's not a ready made situation. You want players that want to come hereabout make it a ready made situation.

So far we only lost out on one player who was ever going to leave the team they were with. Carroll being the one exception. And that's a real shame.

I wouldn't be upset if Monroe did his thing elsewhere at all. Phil said he might not use up all the cap space anyway and that he wasn't necessarily trying to sign the most expensive players. So far he's kept his word. The players he has reached out to are team players all of whom could play exciting roles here.

The Knicks are also in great shape to pick up trades from teams looking to shed salary.

And there are lots of very good FAs still to speak with. This is intelligent management (something NYers aren't used to).

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7/1/2015  11:39 PM
arkrud wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Vmart wrote:I would stay calm. Players today want easy ask yourself you want players that want it easy. They are admitting that they aren't good enough to be the man essentially that is what it is joining the Knicks. It's not a ready made situation. You want players that want to come hereabout make it a ready made situation.

come on now. these guys want to go to a winning situation.

This is the problem and the solution.
Shitty team like Knicks can only get better from within.
That's why it will take a while.
Even Dolan get it and insisted on Melo to be around for the time of rebuild to guaranty tickets sales for MSG... and suffer for the money he get paid.
More money - more suffering.
And Phil knows surely well this team will not be any good before his contract in NY will expire.
He wants to get GM experience for Dolan money and a lot of fun...
He likes this all NYC balls bouncing.
We know Drama!!!

Stop and take your meds. NY will be dramatically better next year. This constant drone of negativity just gives people a headache and its just short of compulsive obsessive hate speech. Phil is smarter and better than anyone we've had running the ship in 20 years.

We are going to surprise a lot of pundits in a good way.

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7/1/2015  11:42 PM
We can always give Amare another 100mil contract.
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newyorknewyork
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7/1/2015  11:43 PM
If we can't get the top tier players then asset collect with the cap space.
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arkrud
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7/1/2015  11:44 PM
fwk00 wrote:
arkrud wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Vmart wrote:I would stay calm. Players today want easy ask yourself you want players that want it easy. They are admitting that they aren't good enough to be the man essentially that is what it is joining the Knicks. It's not a ready made situation. You want players that want to come hereabout make it a ready made situation.

come on now. these guys want to go to a winning situation.

This is the problem and the solution.
Shitty team like Knicks can only get better from within.
That's why it will take a while.
Even Dolan get it and insisted on Melo to be around for the time of rebuild to guaranty tickets sales for MSG... and suffer for the money he get paid.
More money - more suffering.
And Phil knows surely well this team will not be any good before his contract in NY will expire.
He wants to get GM experience for Dolan money and a lot of fun...
He likes this all NYC balls bouncing.
We know Drama!!!

Stop and take your meds. NY will be dramatically better next year. This constant drone of negativity just gives people a headache and its just short of compulsive obsessive hate speech. Phil is smarter and better than anyone we've had running the ship in 20 years.

We are going to surprise a lot of pundits in a good way.

This what I am talking about... Drama-tically

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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