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Rosey
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6/29/2015  7:44 PM
Maybe I missed it. Any word on who they're bringing in to play on the Vegas Summer League team?
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6/29/2015  7:49 PM
Taking a guess i would say early, the greek, the french guy, grant, KP
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6/29/2015  8:31 PM
Starting lineup(for me)
Grant
Galloway
Thanasis
KP
Ovidijus Galkdas

Rotation(for now?)
Pg?
Ledo
Early
Labeyrie
GH

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Andrew
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6/29/2015  8:58 PM
I doubt galloway play the summer league. He's earned his spot imo.
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6/29/2015  9:00 PM
I hope Bachynski is on the roster
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6/29/2015  9:01 PM
Man this is going to be one exciting SL team. I can't wait to see this team.
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6/29/2015  9:12 PM
Saw very little of Early, but I watched enough for me to want to see him attacking the rim from the get go. I know he was hurt, there's that to factor in, but he has to make people remember that he is on the floor. Was the invisible man for long stretches in games I watched him play.
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6/29/2015  9:27 PM
Andrew wrote:I doubt galloway play the summer league. He's earned his spot imo.

I dosen't matter, he is a second year player is he not? He will probably make a Summer League appearance.

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6/29/2015  11:29 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/29/2015  11:32 PM
Nothing official yet but I think we could be looking at the following as of right now:

Ovidijus Galdikas
Porzingis
Maurice Ndour
Jerian Grant
Galloway
Daniel Hackett
Early
Thanasis
Ledo
Labeyrie (is he a definite?)
Jordan Bachynski

Funny feeling we may see these guys too:

Orlando Sanchez
Doron Lamb
Andre Barrett

Wouldn't mind seeing some of the following guys to round it out:

Khem Birch
Jerrelle Benimon
Eric Griffin
Scotty Hopson
Dominique Jones
Orlando Johnson
Kevin Murphy
Jarell Eddie
DeQuan Jones
Curtis Jerrells
Rich Howell

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6/29/2015  11:54 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/29/2015  11:58 PM
Finestrg wrote:Nothing official yet but I think we could be looking at the following as of right now:

Ovidijus Galdikas
Porzingis
Maurice Ndour
Jerian Grant
Galloway
Daniel Hackett
Early
Thanasis
Ledo
Labeyrie (is he a definite?)
Jordan Bachynski

Funny feeling we may see these guys too:

Orlando Sanchez
Doron Lamb
Andre Barrett

Wouldn't mind seeing some of the following guys to round it out:

Khem Birch
Jerrelle Benimon
Eric Griffin
Scotty Hopson

Dominique Jones
Orlando Johnson
Kevin Murphy
Jarell Eddie
DeQuan Jones
Curtis Jerrells
Rich Howell


I know I read Orlando Sanchez is playing for Toronto's Summer League
Do not know if that is in the same league as ours, if so, that probably means the bridge is closed for NYK's Sanchez?
I really think he would fit in the system very well and would like to see him again, I compare him to a poor mans Jared Sullinger
Also would like to see Thabeet as well as the ones I highlighted in Bold

Think there is reasonable talent in the D League, including Arinza Onuaku
Though Phil Jackson has said that he doesn't want to bring an entire new roster to our league with some familiarity about 7 players or so back from last year, not sure if that includes D Leage talents that played in the Triangle though

Many of those SF/PF's like Griffen/Birch I question if they are big/strong enough to play PF in the league or if they are tweeners or SF's, as they play PF in the League....
Though they do no have have to START, I would like to know how to would be against NBA competition 2nd units or so...

For Daniel Hackett, I would like to know how he DEFENDS and if he can DEFEND/GET THROUGH SCREENS, like a poor mans Livingston...
We have limited money to spend and we must find some value talents and keep en eye out in the D League as well with 1-2 unguaranteed deals along with D League taletns we see that could be part of our future

More Maurice Ndour, he is listed at about 200pds and played PF, so that obviously wouldn't work, though he might be able to play SF if he adds some weight/strength
There are also other Weschester Knick's that put up consistent lines like Cummings and another player, both BIGS...

How Ledo *supposingly was working out with a bunch of other NBA talents like Lilliard/MCW, Early, Thanasis, etc if they filled out and worked on their games
To show their work ethic and hunger for the game, unlike Jeremy Tyler who was cut last season as he came in OUT OF SHAPE, which is unacceptable as it was his 3rd chance already, knowing he had an unguaranteed deal

So despite his lack of talent, MOTOR/WORK ETHIC is important, and that is what Curry puts a lot of time in to that people do not realize...
It isn't all PURE TALENT, OKC are filled with HIGH WORK ETHIC GYM RATS that are all ultracompetitive, that is infectious

I really hope we make some major upgrades on quality development coaches/trainers, as we are obviously going YOUNG
We should seriously upgrade our physical therapy and preventive injuries as well, as we have one of the worse medical staffs ever, as these young players are our future and most important assets moving forward that we must protect and help reach their potential especially when their work ethic is high like KP...


have no clue who Ovidijus Galdikas is though looks familiar....
not sure if LB is coming over but I do not think he will come over unless we offer him more money than his "pick pays as a late 2nd rounder, almost end"
So don't think he would come over this year until our cap rises next year, unless he seriously WOW's us

Think there are much better options than Backnaski so unless he improves a lot as well, would prefer Thabeet who has more size/strength and once a TOP pick for a reason

Andre Barrett is a OLD small PG that is unlikely to play in the NBA so unless we lack PG's I hope we do not waste his time

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6/30/2015  12:16 AM
Oh he is the Lith Center and Briggs wanted to draft his team mate that was a similar smaller "MosGoV"
He looks like he could be a good fit

Read Orlando Johnson is going to be playing for The Wizards Summer League

Anyone know if we are combining with other teams to play as there are a couple of Summer League's?
Especially if KP misses his summer league, I would expect him to try to get some run, hope CA "calls for EARLY TRAINING CAMP" a way to show some leadership as he is suppose to be a veteran now
Poor Fisher is going to have to teach the Triangle again and again, growing through that must suck, a reason why Kerr just took philosophies of all coaches and some SETS from the Triangle and some philosophies as well as SSOL and stuff from Popavich

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6/30/2015  12:45 AM
RonRon wrote:Anyone know if we are combining with other teams to play as there are a couple of Summer League's?
Especially if KP misses his summer league, I would expect him to try to get some run, hope CA "calls for EARLY TRAINING CAMP" a way to show some leadership as he is suppose to be a veteran now

Poor Fisher is going to have to teach the Triangle again and again, growing through that must suck, a reason why Kerr just took philosophies of all coaches and some SETS from the Triangle and some philosophies as well as SSOL and stuff from Popavich

We're not in any rush with our young players. There's plenty of time to teach over the course of the year and years to come. Kerr was in a different situation. We have a lot of young players and a full commitment to the system. We aren't a 50 win team that needs to get to the next level right now.
This should be a very good SL team.

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6/30/2015  12:56 AM
TPercy wrote:
Andrew wrote:I doubt galloway play the summer league. He's earned his spot imo.

I dosen't matter, he is a second year player is he not? He will probably make a Summer League appearance.


Yeah...I think they would want him there.

Not only helps him get familiar with guys he might be playing with, but...

...at this time, he is probably the Knick player with the most understanding of the Triangle and he'd be like a second coach on the floor.

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6/30/2015  1:28 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/30/2015  2:26 AM
Would be cool if he gives some tips on how to execute on The Triangle and some struggles adjustments he made, as a PG and for the team as a WHOLE, would validate leadership skills...

Maybe just get 1 or 2 games in to play some limited minutes like Iman Shumpert did a few seasons ago and then just let these guys, I just saw Curtis Jerrells on youtube with 2 clips and I came away VERY IMPRESSED
He reminds me of Travis Best, with great quickness, shooting ability, and ability to penetrate/finish, with great burst of speed/change of direction
Ability to finish with both hands and a 3pt shot, seems to be more of a scorer like JJ Barea/Travis Best, would be a great change of pace PG, especially if he could use his quickness/speed on the DEFENSIVE end as he looks very strong like Barea/Fisher with some toughness, if he has a nice mid range/floater/facilitator he would be a tough to defend with KP in the PnR..

Not sure if this is Clarence Gains Jr scouting but if so he is putting some solid EURO's that we could use
I hope we get that guy that Twolves on the draft rights to, he looks legit as well as the LITH Center

Cannot wait to watch these guys play in a summer league
Would rather NOT fully look to run the triangle but take philosophies of it as we are trying to look for talent, not over complicate things
At the very least take it slow

Because the Triangle is a system in which EVERYONE must be nsync together, in order to work effectively
IMO, it isn't the best OFFENSE to run to scout talent when it take years to actually learn to execute TOGETHER with chemistry

It wouldn't make sense to run a system like that with players that have never played together that needs so much precise timing and everyone getting some minutes to display their skills to evaluate
Would like Fisher to break it down to easier sets, maybe ask for some advice from Brian Shaw, a team mate of his and ran sets of it Indiana and not so much in Denver because they never had the talent to do so...
Doubt he would ask for advice from Kerr though as they were never team mates, not sure if they have any relationship though which I doubt...


Believe it was Ben Strong and Darnell Jackson that were pretty consistent as BIGS on the Weschester Knicks...

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6/30/2015  8:50 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/30/2015  8:52 AM
The Answer Man Puts On His Rose-tinted Shades and Heads To Las Vegas

Q. Rosey - Maybe I missed it. Any word on who they're bringing in to play on the Vegas Summer League team?

A. Maurice Ndour.

At Ohio, Ndour shined as a multi-talented big who could stretch the floor with 3-point shooting and defend well at the rim. Ndour averaged 14.9 points over two seasons with the Bobcats and earned Second Team All-MAC honors in 2014-15. He’s a projected small forward in the NBA, but must develop his ball-handling, passing and perimeter defending skills to hope for an opportunity in the Association.

Ndour is a 6-foot-9 power forward, a Ohio University graduate, and is from Senegal.

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6/30/2015  10:27 AM
misterearl wrote:The Answer Man Puts On His Rose-tinted Shades and Heads To Las Vegas

Q. Rosey - Maybe I missed it. Any word on who they're bringing in to play on the Vegas Summer League team?

A. Maurice Ndour.

At Ohio, Ndour shined as a multi-talented big who could stretch the floor with 3-point shooting and defend well at the rim. Ndour averaged 14.9 points over two seasons with the Bobcats and earned Second Team All-MAC honors in 2014-15. He’s a projected small forward in the NBA, but must develop his ball-handling, passing and perimeter defending skills to hope for an opportunity in the Association.

Ndour is a 6-foot-9 power forward, a Ohio University graduate, and is from Senegal.

He looks pretty good on tape but he played poorly at PIT against better competition. Did block shots. Perhaps the Knicks will use him differently. Hes only 200 pounds so playing at the basket might not be the best place for him.

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6/30/2015  11:13 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
misterearl wrote:The Answer Man Puts On His Rose-tinted Shades and Heads To Las Vegas

Q. Rosey - Maybe I missed it. Any word on who they're bringing in to play on the Vegas Summer League team?

A. Maurice Ndour.

At Ohio, Ndour shined as a multi-talented big who could stretch the floor with 3-point shooting and defend well at the rim. Ndour averaged 14.9 points over two seasons with the Bobcats and earned Second Team All-MAC honors in 2014-15. He’s a projected small forward in the NBA, but must develop his ball-handling, passing and perimeter defending skills to hope for an opportunity in the Association.

Ndour is a 6-foot-9 power forward, a Ohio University graduate, and is from Senegal.

He looks pretty good on tape but he played poorly at PIT against better competition. Did block shots. Perhaps the Knicks will use him differently. Hes only 200 pounds so playing at the basket might not be the best place for him.

Yeah...saw the stats for each game.

Stood out one game out of 4, from what I could see, simply looking at the stats.

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6/30/2015  12:19 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/30/2015  12:28 PM
the Ndour guy is listed at 200 pounds and unless he gained much weight and is very strong despite his lack of weight, he likely will not be able to play PF
Though he had very impressive numbers and could play SF or a rotational player that will take 1-2years to develop

There are a lot of guards and BIG guards on our roster
Though there are a lot of different types of guards that are very impressive along with the Lith Center, I think we need more PF's and Center's
Hopefully Orlando Sanchez reconsiders joining our Summer League and not Toronto's instead, hope neither Sanchez or Knick's hold it against him, as I think he is a player that could contribute in this system RIGHT AWAY and FIT

Do not think there is a limit on roster spots so bringing in


Ovidijus Galdikas *I know Brigg's prefers that we drafted his team mate, The MosGoV like with good athleticism/mobility/willing shot blocker/rebounder at 6-10, 250pds but our invite is a bit closer to a LEGIT Center*

Ben Strong and Darnell Jackson would make sense if so, especially if we MUST run the Triangle, though I prefer NOT to when we are evaluating the talents that do not have Triangle experience
But running some sets/philosophies/team basketball, PnR's and FITS that we could use those talents to display their skills and things that they are already successful in that could be used in the NBA....
Doran Lamb should be brought in if we are running the Triangle for his familiarity, maybe even Shannon Brown again, just for Summer League/Training camp purposes..
Lamb was also a team mate of Tobias Harris and from what I am reading, he will not be getting a MAX offer but anywhere from 10-12m *which Orlando probably would match* but isn't worth risking A MAX on
While at those numbers, it would be very tradeable, if it doesn't work out well, I am pretty confident that KP would have never passed Orlando had we not drafted him either...
Not sure if Aaron Gordon *looks like a tweener from SF/PF* and a poor mans mini Blake Griffen can may not be able to stay in this league and was surprised when they selected him over anyone or ELfrid Payton first


They do have Mario Hezonja at 6-8, Andrew Nicholson, Moe Harkless, Aaron Gordon's development at SF, possibly Kyle O Quin/Frye/Vuvcevic at PF/C
Though they do have a lot of SG's, Mario Hezonja and Evan Forrnier, and SG/SF, along with PG/SG's with good size ability to defend 2 positions and maybe 3 on switches with Olindop/Payton


Though they do have enough money if they let Harris walk for a MAX contract to LA/Jordan etc, or still keep Harris at a qualifing offer and decide to match or not and a lower FA like Greg Monroe


I really like the list that Finestrng put up with talents that we should look to bring in
Though would need more PF/C's as well, though I really like the SF/PF's and maybe even play them at Center for "small ball" at times as well
In the Triangle, PG's and Centers could be players/talents that have depth/versatility, that we saw on The Lakers and Bulls, similar to RB's in NFL with time share and spread out cost rather than 1 workhorse
While it is also the hardest positions to fill/develop and most important, though we would need versatile SG/SF's and PF's with many versatile talents on the squad with much all round talent

Adding Thabeet *especially if we acquire DJ to learn under him* and *a poor mans Greg Monroe in Willie Reed*
Regardless I think Thabeet could be a steal that we should sign to a 2year deal for the vet min, as he is hungry to get back in the league that was once picked due to his potential and he would be cost efficient and provide similar DEFENSE to Roy Hibbert's DPOY years...
Anyone else think Willie Reed looks like a poor mans Greg Monroe, who is *a bit smaller/weighs less* than Monroe according to what he is listed at...

Mario Hezonja could be Tmac when he is done developing and filling out his body, with great shooting skills, athleticism, height, confidence, and handle/ability to penetrate/finish

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6/30/2015  12:44 PM
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TPercy wrote:
Andrew wrote:I doubt galloway play the summer league. He's earned his spot imo.

I dosen't matter, he is a second year player is he not? He will probably make a Summer League appearance.


Yeah...I think they would want him there.

Not only helps him get familiar with guys he might be playing with, but...

...at this time, he is probably the Knick player with the most understanding of the Triangle and he'd be like a second coach on the floor.

Agreed, we could use another leader on the floor to help the novices.

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6/30/2015  1:24 PM
Im not sure but are you allowed to sign people from other people's summer league teams after the summer league to your mini camp rosters?
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