TripleThreat wrote:crzymdups wrote:Basically, I think Monroe's offense in the post in the Triangle would be a major plus. But if we get him, we have to figure out how to build a defensive squad with he and Melo on the front line.
The answer is, no offense, that you don't.
Monroe is a defensive liability. Some folks want to point out some individual things he does well as if it shades over the aggregate, which it does not (it's like saying a 55 year old sagging 375 pound woman with bad skin and no teeth, cross eyed and covered in warts and smells like Campbells Cheese Soup is beautiful because she has nice hair, if it wasn't in greasy clumps)
Monroe was AVAILABLE FOR A REASON. Teams, rational teams, do not let young NBA caliber center types walk away for nothing without a reason. Monroe creates more questions than answers on most NBA front lines.
In order to defend the rim, you need another player, which means more money spent ( 10-12 million a year at about market cost) since the Knicks didn't draft a pivot that will help this year. They can get someone a little cheaper but far more inconsistent in the 6-7 million range, but pivots who can play some semblance of defense don't come cheap. This is on top of the maxed out 15 million a year Monroe will want.
Taking in Monroe and hiding his defensive flaws caps out the Knicks. And as a bonus, it pushes Melo onto the wing, where he has no business even trying there defensively.
There is no defensive scenario with Melo and Monroe that makes the Knicks competitive in live actual NBA games against real NBA competition once Stein went off the board and wasn't a Knick. And even that would be a huge stretch defensively.
FIT MATTERS.
Which is why Monroe is AVAILABLE IN THE FIRST PLACE. He is a POOR FIT FOR MOST NBA TEAMS who actually want to win basketball games.
As for Aminu, he thrived under Rick Carlisle after finally getting into his head that he should play to his limitations, not his perceived draft ceiling, which was long ago. In a small ball environment, he can defend four positions, which is rare in the NBA. With length and a plus rebounder and good athleticism to be effective in transition. He will however muck up any floor spacing you have.
Aminu won't come cheap. He won't command max money, but he rebuilt his value.
Another issue is Carlisle and Zeke hate each other. Zeke back with the Knicks mean pressure on Dolan and the front office not to sign anyone who will get tons of compliments about Carlisle's coaching all year long ( the guy is just a rock solid elite coach who milks the best out of his players)
Melo and Monroe, there is no fix for that pairing and having any hope to have a passable NBA defense. They create too many tradeoffs and force more questions than answers. Any Melo and Monroe pairing will mean the Knicks will get firebombed each night on defense. They will be torn up every single night.
TT,
What if CA does demand a trade?
I do understand your point about having 2 weak defenders in the SL together, however, if Monroe plays Center and EVERY OTHER POSITION can hold their own and even more, I think the evolution of this game that GS/Atlanta has shown, without Center's, it could actually work/fit
You come up with the weirdest analogies and comparisions to prove your points...
Chuck Hayes for example, leadership that is glued on the bench isn't the same as having leadership with a player that is a starter/talent constantly on the court
A reason why KG is no longer the leader/player he once was on Boston for a good amount of years till injuries/age caught up with him
Words hold a lot more weight when the player is on the floor, a reason why I valued Draymond Green from the START of the season, while you valued Paul Pierce
One is in the start of his career *though you said Draymond Green would be an overpaid and past his prime if we signed him* but you valued Paul Pierce and his leadership as he is on his last legs
6/28/2015 3:26 PM