http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2015-06-22/nba-draft-rumors-knicks-frank-kaminsky-wisconsin-dangelo-russell-emmanuel-mudiay?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

i hate to compare players based on race but his skill set really reminds me of Kelly Olynyk. a nice player but not a star. I think if the knicks are truly invested in getting monroe, then youd need to get a stretch 4. i think kaminsky will have a 15 yr NBA career and be a solid starter. Im just not sure hes a franchise player - therefore i wouldnt draft him at #4

SwishAndDish13 wrote:If they plan to draft him at 4, they really should look to trade down or dump the pick. That's a waste and an insane reach.

ive liked him....for a LONG time in college. (even longer than BRIGGS). lol. soillid solid overall game. my only concerns are his strength but that should develop as he grows into his man suit. honestly, i dont think hes ideal at #4 but i wouldnt be overly disappointed.

honestly to me, once we didnt get the #1 or #2 pick, i knew we'd be settling. to me its towns, okafor and everyone else is a question mark

franco12 wrote:why not just resign bargnani?

They might do that too. You can never have too many high skilled and high IQ players in the Triangle. The more you add the better it all works. We literally have no one on the roster right now. Kaminsky would be the best big we've had on the team since 1st half of the season Amare in his 1st season.

franco12 wrote:why not just resign bargnani?

Because he lacks the allure of draft pick. So what if Bargs may actually be the better player...

blkexec wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:If they plan to draft him at 4, they really should look to trade down or dump the pick. That's a waste and an insane reach.

If Phil has a mock draft where picks 4-10 are basically on the same level, then how can Kaminsky, Stein and whoever else in that range be a reach?

The NBA mock should be like this.

1 Towns
2 OK4
3 Russell
4 Mudiay
4 Zinger
4 Winsl
4 WCS
4 Kaminsk
4 Turner
4 Payne
4
12
12
12
12
16
16
16
16

Anybody with the same number, is not a reach! If we are picking 4th.....then we can pick anybody with the number 4. This is just an example to say, our pick is at the top of the next tier of players. Phil should look at the draft in groups. Our pick is probably the biggest group of talent in the entire draft. 4-10 range.

He has no upside and you can get a similar or better player without spending much in FA. That is an awful pick. Outside of a few supporters on this board nobody really has him that high (saw you added Payne, that was creative). When was the last time a player like him came into the league and made an impact to justify the high draft status?

franco12 wrote:why not just resign bargnani?

Hell no. Move down and select Kaminsky. Is he better then Smith?

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

blkexec wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:If they plan to draft him at 4, they really should look to trade down or dump the pick. That's a waste and an insane reach.

If Phil has a mock draft where picks 4-10 are basically on the same level, then how can Kaminsky, Stein and whoever else in that range be a reach?

The NBA mock should be like this.

1 Towns
2 OK4
3 Russell
4 Mudiay
4 Zinger
4 Winsl
4 WCS
4 Kaminsk
4 Turner
4 Payne
4
12
12
12
12
16
16
16
16

Anybody with the same number, is not a reach! If we are picking 4th.....then we can pick anybody with the number 4. This is just an example to say, our pick is at the top of the next tier of players. Phil should look at the draft in groups. Our pick is probably the biggest group of talent in the entire draft. 4-10 range.

He has no upside and you can get a similar or better player without spending much in FA. That is an awful pick. Outside of a few supporters on this board nobody really has him that high (saw you added Payne, that was creative). When was the last time a player like him came into the league and made an impact to justify the high draft status?

The risk of finding a franchise player after the top 3 is very high.

The risk of finding a solid role player after the top 3 is very low.

It depends on Phil risk level.....After Russell and OK4 are gone, all you have is two groups.

High risk to high reward (Zinger, Mudiay, Mario, etc..)

Low risk to medium / high reward (Kaminsky, Stein, Winslow, etc..)

Will Phil pick from the low risk group.....Also called the low bust group. I think Winslow could be a star NBA player. Kaminsky could be a star as well.....They just don't fill one of our major needs that we've had for a long time since Patrick Ewing....(a defensive center). Winslow does at the SG/SF position. And he might be the BPA for what we need. But don't sleep on the high risk high reward group! How must risk is Phil willing to take? Or will he pick the player that Orlando and Kings want? It's pretty easy to get some intel on what other teams are looking to pick. Philly is making it known they want Russell....Either they want LA to draft Russell, so that OK4 falls to Philly? Or they really want Russell.....Philly is really sitting in a nice position, since they need a big and a small.