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Knicks1969
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6/23/2015  3:32 PM
If Philly draft Przinski, it is an indication that they will willing to trade one of their current bigs. We should perhaps try to package a trade for Embiid which will help the Knicks to free up some more cap space. At the end of the day, Embiid's contract will perhaps ends in 2016, and can come off the books if this dude continues to remain injured. He is an asset that we can perhaps consider to take a chance at.
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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6/23/2015  3:46 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:If Philly draft Przinski, it is an indication that they will willing to trade one of their current bigs. We should perhaps try to package a trade for Embiid which will help the Knicks to free up some more cap space. At the end of the day, Embiid's contract will perhaps ends in 2016, and can come off the books if this dude continues to remain injured. He is an asset that we can perhaps consider to take a chance at.

Who or what do we have that Philly would really want?

Why give up assets for a player who might be damaged goods? If Philly drafts Porzingis you can say that they are going BPA, but they might also be saying that they are not counting on Embiid as part of their future, especially if they pass up on Russell, who seems like a great fit for them.

If they want to trade a big Phil should demand Noel, and watch how quickly they pull back the offer, but what do we presently have to entice them in this trade?

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6/23/2015  3:47 PM
No more trading for injured players!
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6/23/2015  3:49 PM
What assets do we have to even entertain that? And if we had them, why would we give them up for the 2nd coming of Greg Oden? Full disclosure though, I was an Embiid believer prior to his most recent setback. I would've even been willing to liquidate Melo and Tyson Chandler's value for an opportunity to trade into the 2014 draft to select him (after he had that injury in workouts and was projected to drop).
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6/23/2015  4:20 PM
Philly would be insane not to pick Russell (ideal fit) but if they know Embiid is Oden redux, they will probably take a flyer on Zinger, as a replacement. They are not looking to win anything in the next 2-3 years.

Let's hope that's the case. Russell remains my #1 choice for us (other than Towns). If Philly takes him, then I would like us to take Mudiay, as I think he's the next superstar in the NBA (a la John Wall) and might actually give me a chance to woo my kids back into becoming Knicks fans.
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6/23/2015  4:24 PM
If Philly drafts Porzingis we take Russell to the bank, laughing all the way. Case closed.
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6/23/2015  4:26 PM
Not sure why some are so hot for Embiid. He is basically greg oden 2. Havent we had enough injury prone and bad conditioned players
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6/23/2015  5:07 PM
crzymdups wrote:If Philly drafts Porzingis we take Russell to the bank, laughing all the way. Case closed.

You know Russell has been my pick since the beginning; so that won't change. I just want a big defensively capable 7 footer as well. If Philly is willing to trade Embiid, we should look into dealing for that dude.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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6/23/2015  5:21 PM
I am concerned about the reports of missed PT sessions and a blow up with the staff. On top of that, Embiid is damaged goods. Would have to be a pennies on the dollar kind of deal to make it worth the risk IMO.
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6/23/2015  5:26 PM
pass on Embild. By the time he's healthy he would want a max contract
fishmike 9/27/2024 11:00 PM Ug I hate this. The idea of Towns is great until you see what a pussy he is. Jules is a dog. DD was a flamethrower locked up cheap for 3 more years. First Leon move I hate
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6/23/2015  5:41 PM
crzymdups wrote:If Philly drafts Porzingis we take Russell to the bank, laughing all the way. Case closed.

I would probably check out some Philly forums to see their reaction if they let Russell drop to us. Hinkie still seems to be looked at with awe by some folks- we know he is the darling of the analytics crowd- but there has to be a point where his moves are looked at more critically and folks realize how poorly he's.

He does have a ton of picks in the next few years, but you wonder if he will use them wisely.

Wish we were in his situation, and that team should be good if he does his job, but at some point his brilliance has to translate into some wins.

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6/23/2015  6:05 PM
Can't see Philly passing up on Russell. Porzingis is too much of a gamble. They can't keep selling this futuristic approach to their fan base. Sad for the Knicks.
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6/23/2015  6:24 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/23/2015  6:24 PM
crzymdups wrote:If Philly drafts Porzingis we take Russell to the bank, laughing all the way. Case closed.

^^^
This...Hoping this happens....
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6/23/2015  6:29 PM
Uptown wrote:
crzymdups wrote:If Philly drafts Porzingis we take Russell to the bank, laughing all the way. Case closed.

^^^
This...Hoping this happens....

Berger is reporting that Philly wants to trade up with LA to draft Russell at 2.
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6/23/2015  6:44 PM
Rosey wrote:Can't see Philly passing up on Russell. Porzingis is too much of a gamble. They can't keep selling this futuristic approach to their fan base. Sad for the Knicks.

Not sure about this, although the DraftExpress analyst believes he is bluffing and looking for a trade down partner he can abuse like he did with Orlando last year. But even if he does pick Porzingis and trade down with a team like Orlando, he might benefit, but so will the Knicks, because he then loses Russell, who could be the perfect guard for our needs, and might be the best for his team, too.

People get on Phil for his adherence to the Triangle, but you can go too far in other ways, too.

I'm not sure what numbers Hinkie uses to make his decisions on players or picks, but he got rid of a ROTY and drafted a talented big who might be damaged goods. He's set in his ways like Phil, and he might just make the wrong move at 3 and take Porzingis. Folks in Philly expect him to do the unexpected, and at least until now he does not seem to have faced questions about how he's doing things.

I really believe that Russell can fall to us, even though nobody thought it was possible.

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6/23/2015  6:49 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Uptown wrote:
crzymdups wrote:If Philly drafts Porzingis we take Russell to the bank, laughing all the way. Case closed.

^^^
This...Hoping this happens....

Berger is reporting that Philly wants to trade up with LA to draft Russell at 2.

Wow.

Shakeup at the top? League sources say the Sixers want D'Angelo Russell and are willing to trade up from the No. 3 spot to get him. It would create an interesting opportunity for the Lakers, who could still get Jahlil Okafor and extract a future pick in the process. Among others, the Sixers control the Lakers' 2016 first-round pick, which is top-3 protected
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6/23/2015  6:52 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Uptown wrote:
crzymdups wrote:If Philly drafts Porzingis we take Russell to the bank, laughing all the way. Case closed.

^^^
This...Hoping this happens....

Berger is reporting that Philly wants to trade up with LA to draft Russell at 2.

Wow.

Shakeup at the top? League sources say the Sixers want D'Angelo Russell and are willing to trade up from the No. 3 spot to get him. It would create an interesting opportunity for the Lakers, who could still get Jahlil Okafor and extract a future pick in the process. Among others, the Sixers control the Lakers' 2016 first-round pick, which is top-3 protected

What I want to know is why the hell we aren't trying to trade up! Nominally speaking, it'd only be two spots which can't be that great a leap for us. And more importantly, Phil is boning the team owner! You'd think he'd get a hometown discount or something in the deal.
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6/23/2015  6:56 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Uptown wrote:
crzymdups wrote:If Philly drafts Porzingis we take Russell to the bank, laughing all the way. Case closed.

^^^
This...Hoping this happens....

Berger is reporting that Philly wants to trade up with LA to draft Russell at 2.

Wow.

Shakeup at the top? League sources say the Sixers want D'Angelo Russell and are willing to trade up from the No. 3 spot to get him. It would create an interesting opportunity for the Lakers, who could still get Jahlil Okafor and extract a future pick in the process. Among others, the Sixers control the Lakers' 2016 first-round pick, which is top-3 protected
The Lakers are sitting in what should have been the Knicks spot. That would have been a great opportunity for the Knicks.
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6/23/2015  7:15 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Uptown wrote:
crzymdups wrote:If Philly drafts Porzingis we take Russell to the bank, laughing all the way. Case closed.

^^^
This...Hoping this happens....

Berger is reporting that Philly wants to trade up with LA to draft Russell at 2.

Wow.

Shakeup at the top? League sources say the Sixers want D'Angelo Russell and are willing to trade up from the No. 3 spot to get him. It would create an interesting opportunity for the Lakers, who could still get Jahlil Okafor and extract a future pick in the process. Among others, the Sixers control the Lakers' 2016 first-round pick, which is top-3 protected

What I want to know is why the hell we aren't trying to trade up! Nominally speaking, it'd only be two spots which can't be that great a leap for us. And more importantly, Phil is boning the team owner! You'd think he'd get a hometown discount or something in the deal.

Other than Phil's bedroom talents and great charm, what exactly do we have to offer the Lakers at this point in time??

Do tell.

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6/23/2015  7:30 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Uptown wrote:
crzymdups wrote:If Philly drafts Porzingis we take Russell to the bank, laughing all the way. Case closed.

^^^
This...Hoping this happens....

Berger is reporting that Philly wants to trade up with LA to draft Russell at 2.

Wow.

Shakeup at the top? League sources say the Sixers want D'Angelo Russell and are willing to trade up from the No. 3 spot to get him. It would create an interesting opportunity for the Lakers, who could still get Jahlil Okafor and extract a future pick in the process. Among others, the Sixers control the Lakers' 2016 first-round pick, which is top-3 protected

What I want to know is why the hell we aren't trying to trade up! Nominally speaking, it'd only be two spots which can't be that great a leap for us. And more importantly, Phil is boning the team owner! You'd think he'd get a hometown discount or something in the deal.

Other than Phil's bedroom talents and great charm, what exactly do we have to offer the Lakers at this point in time??

Do tell.

Does he really need more than the 4th pick, another late first rounder and some of that 6"9' vintage loving to get it done?
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