Russell Westbrook Stat Summary - UCLA Bruins:

										
Season	GP	MPG	PPG	FG%	3FG%	FT%	APG	RPG	BPG	SPG
2007-08	39	33.8	12.7	46.5	33.8	71.3	4.3	3.9	0.2	1.6
2006-07	36	9	3.4	45.7	40.9	54.8	0.7	0.8	0	0.4
										
										
Career	75	21.9	8.3	46.3	35.3	68.5	2.5	2.4	0.1	1

This would support the Stein campaign, but for me, I am still leaning toward Hezonja.

EwingsGlass wrote:Off the top of my head, Russell Westbrook. His stat line was not amazing. That said, he was considered a top defensive tweener based on athleticism. I can remember what the videos showed of him, but to half answer the question, mediocre stats are not determinative to the extent that elite athleticism exists IF player development continues in the NBA. If I am agreeing with you, for me, the videos of practice mean nothing to me. But combine stats mean something to me.

Russell Westbrook Stat Summary - UCLA Bruins:

										
Season	GP	MPG	PPG	FG%	3FG%	FT%	APG	RPG	BPG	SPG
2007-08	39	33.8	12.7	46.5	33.8	71.3	4.3	3.9	0.2	1.6
2006-07	36	9	3.4	45.7	40.9	54.8	0.7	0.8	0	0.4
										
										
Career	75	21.9	8.3	46.3	35.3	68.5	2.5	2.4	0.1	1

This would support the Stein campaign, but for me, I am still leaning toward Hezonja.

nixluva wrote:We hate on Shump but he was better than Chris Singleton who many had ahead of him before the Workouts. He hasn't reached what many thought was his max potential but he is still very much the defensive guard he was drafted to be. He hasn't achieved the hoped for offensive progress.

FistOfOakley wrote:basically all of the ucla guards and SF under ben howland over performed their college stat line... you also have ariza, collison, jordan farmar...

BigDaddyG wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:I think Conley had pretty good college stats, especially for a freshman. If you switch the rbs and assists, his production looks pretty similar to Winslow's.

Yeah, but they were cancelled out by his shooting stats. A lot of people thought he was a reach when Memphis picked.

Bonn1997 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:I think Conley had pretty good college stats, especially for a freshman. If you switch the rbs and assists, his production looks pretty similar to Winslow's.

Yeah, but they were cancelled out by his shooting stats. A lot of people thought he was a reach when Memphis picked.

Shooting stats? I'd disagree. His 2 point shooting (58%) was phenomenal. Yeah, his 3 point shooting was low but you're talking about less than 70 total shots. His overall efficiency was excellent (because of the 2s). He had a true shooting % of .584 and effective field goal % of .552. Winslow is at .570 and .559 for those two stats.

I would think you have look at where the shot is coming from. 3s are 3s, no matter how you slice it...not the same with a 2pt shot.

Winslow probably got to the basket a lot, and hit on his 3s at a good clip, but I have doubts about him continuing to shoot the 3 with as much success from the longer distance, and with more defensive pressure, and he is not just going to overpower NBA players, or drive by the smaller players he will face at SF. His inability to hit a shot off the dribble is documented, and I don't know much about his midrange game, but I can't think he took a ton of midrange jumpers this year, but I have no proof of this.

WaltLongmire wrote:
Do your 2 point shooting stats consider whether they were jump shots or drives to the basket?

I would think you have look at where the shot is coming from. 3s are 3s, no matter how you slice it...not the same with a 2pt shot.

Winslow probably got to the basket a lot, and hit on his 3s at a good clip, but I have doubts about him continuing to shoot the 3 with as much success from the longer distance, and with more defensive pressure, and he is not just going to overpower NBA players, or drive by the smaller players he will face at SF. His inability to hit a shot off the dribble is documented, and I don't know much about his midrange game, but I can't think he took a ton of midrange jumpers this year, but I have no proof of this.

winslow didn't shoot a ton of midrange.. i think 80% of his shots were either 3s or in the restricted area... that's good... it means he's taking the most efficient shots on the floor...

russell took a lot of midrange shots but that's not necessarily good... if you're not confident in your finishing ability you will pull up a lot more often..