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BigRedDog
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6/15/2015  7:35 PM
The Knicks are considering trading their pick if Karl-Anthony Towns, Jahlil Okafor and D'Angelo Russell are all off the board in the top three picks, according to Chad Ford of ESPN.com.
This isn't really a big story, but keep in mind that this could mean the Knicks may not feel comfortable grabbing Emmanuel Mudiay or Kristaps Porzingis at four. Porzingis has easily been the hottest name in draft circles and he could wind up going as high as two in the draft.
fishmike 9/27/2024 11:00 PM Ug I hate this. The idea of Towns is great until you see what a pussy he is. Jules is a dog. DD was a flamethrower locked up cheap for 3 more years. First Leon move I hate
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6/15/2015  7:47 PM
How recent is this rumor?

If new, it would seem that Phil's going fishing. He's put the bait on the hook, and just put the line in the water.

Would people want Orlando's 1st (5th pick), this year's second (in the 50's), Next year's 1-unprotected (Do they have one nest year?), next year's second, and the option to swap 1s in 2017?

Just wondering.

I would like to get a later #1 this year, though.

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6/15/2015  7:50 PM
Orlando would give ALL that to NY to move up 1 spot? Unlikely. But if so, I'd STRONGLY urge the team to take that deal. We'd probably still be able to draft Mudiay.
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6/15/2015  7:52 PM
Truthfully i havent see any good trade down offers. Unless we are getting back a kings ransom they should stay put
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6/15/2015  7:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/15/2015  7:57 PM
Moonangie wrote:Orlando would give ALL that to NY to move up 1 spot? Unlikely. But if so, I'd STRONGLY urge the team to take that deal. We'd probably still be able to draft Mudiay.

One man's potential junk is another man's potential treasure.

For them, that one spot might actually be trading up to #1.

I'm speculating, of course. Did read that they told the Latvian last year that they would take him in the lottery if he was in the draft.

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Question- If, for some reason, Towns fell to 4, and you had the 5th pick, and you believed he was hands down the best player in the draft.

What would you offer to get Towns?

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6/15/2015  7:56 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:How recent is this rumor?

If new, it would seem that Phil's going fishing. He's put the bait on the hook, and just put the line in the water.

Would people want Orlando's 1st (5th pick), this year's second (in the 50's), Next year's 1-unprotected (Do they have one nest year?), next year's second, and the option to swap 1s in 2017?

Just wondering.

I would like to get a later #1 this year, though.


I would love to get another pick especially a 1st rounder in this draft. I think it's obvious that Phil is gonna go hard at trying to make a trade to either trade down some spots while picking up a veteran or trade down and picking up multiple picks and if he doesn't get the right offer then he'll just make the pick at #4. I'm totally down with us trading the pick as long as we still end up with a pick in the lottery hopefully staying in the top 10 while picking up other assets.
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6/15/2015  7:57 PM
Knicks have one NBA caliber starter..This is a chance to add another starter at a fair wage...So Phil is considering trading down to add to our overflowing roster of bench players??..Hard to believe...
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6/15/2015  7:59 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
Moonangie wrote:Orlando would give ALL that to NY to move up 1 spot? Unlikely. But if so, I'd STRONGLY urge the team to take that deal. We'd probably still be able to draft Mudiay.

One man's potential junk is another man's potential treasure.

For them, that one spot might actually be trading up to #1.

I'm speculating, of course. Did read that they told the Latvian last year that they would take him in the lottery if he was in the draft.

Inside outside with Vucevich.

Question- If, for some reason, Towns fell to 4, and you had the 5th pick, and you believed he was hands down the best player in the draft.

What would you offer to get Towns?


Are we talking about the Knicks and what we have now to offer up in a trade?? Because we don't have much.
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6/15/2015  7:59 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/15/2015  8:00 PM
In other news: Grass is green, water is wet, and fire is hot. News at 11

This is some hard hitting, in depth reporting by Chad Ford. Wow.

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6/15/2015  8:49 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
Moonangie wrote:Orlando would give ALL that to NY to move up 1 spot? Unlikely. But if so, I'd STRONGLY urge the team to take that deal. We'd probably still be able to draft Mudiay.

One man's potential junk is another man's potential treasure.

For them, that one spot might actually be trading up to #1.

I'm speculating, of course. Did read that they told the Latvian last year that they would take him in the lottery if he was in the draft.

Inside outside with Vucevich.

Question- If, for some reason, Towns fell to 4, and you had the 5th pick, and you believed he was hands down the best player in the draft.

What would you offer to get Towns?


Are we talking about the Knicks and what we have now to offer up in a trade?? Because we don't have much.

If you had the 5th, a 2nd this year, and next year's 1st & 2nd, would you give them up for Towns if he fell for some strange reason?
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6/15/2015  8:50 PM
H1AND1 wrote:In other news: Grass is green, water is wet, and fire is hot. News at 11

This is some hard hitting, in depth reporting by Chad Ford. Wow.


You never saw my lawn, buddy.
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6/15/2015  9:29 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:In other news: Grass is green, water is wet, and fire is hot. News at 11

This is some hard hitting, in depth reporting by Chad Ford. Wow.


You never saw my lawn, buddy.

LOL. Touché!

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6/15/2015  10:44 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
Moonangie wrote:Orlando would give ALL that to NY to move up 1 spot? Unlikely. But if so, I'd STRONGLY urge the team to take that deal. We'd probably still be able to draft Mudiay.

One man's potential junk is another man's potential treasure.

For them, that one spot might actually be trading up to #1.

I'm speculating, of course. Did read that they told the Latvian last year that they would take him in the lottery if he was in the draft.

Inside outside with Vucevich.

Question- If, for some reason, Towns fell to 4, and you had the 5th pick, and you believed he was hands down the best player in the draft.

What would you offer to get Towns?


Are we talking about the Knicks and what we have now to offer up in a trade?? Because we don't have much.

If you had the 5th, a 2nd this year, and next year's 1st & 2nd, would you give them up for Towns if he fell for some strange reason?

Towns became a mythical figure after his workout video..He really didn't have any offensive moves at Kentucky..But after seeing his workouts where he couldn't miss a jumper then people want to trade future first round picks for him..Its like college never happened..

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6/15/2015  10:50 PM
holfresh wrote:Knicks have one NBA caliber starter..This is a chance to add another starter at a fair wage...So Phil is considering trading down to add to our overflowing roster of bench players??..Hard to believe...

If it is true might be that Phil believes that those three have the best shot of turning into stars but after that he sees more risk. Wants more than just a starter at 4, maybe several if those players aren't available.

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6/15/2015  10:52 PM
It is simply not fair to judge any of the Kentucky players. That team was so loaded with talent
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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6/15/2015  10:54 PM
I was just warming up to Porzingis. I plan on being a Knick fan for the next 10 yrs at least. It would be nice to see this guy develop.
fishmike 9/27/2024 11:00 PM Ug I hate this. The idea of Towns is great until you see what a pussy he is. Jules is a dog. DD was a flamethrower locked up cheap for 3 more years. First Leon move I hate
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6/15/2015  10:59 PM
holfresh wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
Moonangie wrote:Orlando would give ALL that to NY to move up 1 spot? Unlikely. But if so, I'd STRONGLY urge the team to take that deal. We'd probably still be able to draft Mudiay.

One man's potential junk is another man's potential treasure.

For them, that one spot might actually be trading up to #1.

I'm speculating, of course. Did read that they told the Latvian last year that they would take him in the lottery if he was in the draft.

Inside outside with Vucevich.

Question- If, for some reason, Towns fell to 4, and you had the 5th pick, and you believed he was hands down the best player in the draft.

What would you offer to get Towns?


Are we talking about the Knicks and what we have now to offer up in a trade?? Because we don't have much.

If you had the 5th, a 2nd this year, and next year's 1st & 2nd, would you give them up for Towns if he fell for some strange reason?

Towns became a mythical figure after his workout video..He really didn't have any offensive moves at Kentucky..But after seeing his workouts where he couldn't miss a jumper then people want to trade future first round picks for him..Its like college never happened..


I agree in many ways with this, same was true with Stein in that workout, but Towns was supposedly knocking down 3s in HS, and is good at the line. I also saw some nice moves in the post vs Wisc- he and Kaminsky had some good battles down low, too. He was protected on D by guys like Stein and Lyles, and their other bigs, too.

My thing with Towns is that there is no way he and his size 20 feet can play the 4 in this league the way it is developing. Don't see the movement. Has to be a 5, and Minny already has a decent center, who I don't think can play PF.

My KG 2.0 theory is that Saunders, who loves Porzingis, flips with LA, who then gets a very happy Towns. Minny gets LA's 27th and their very early #2 (34th).

Just a theory, but who knows.

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6/15/2015  11:02 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:It is simply not fair to judge any of the Kentucky players. That team was so loaded with talent

Especially big guys...Historically, they might have had the best group of 6'10"+ type kids in the history of the college game, and almost all of their guards had good size.

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6/15/2015  11:08 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/15/2015  11:09 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
holfresh wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
Moonangie wrote:Orlando would give ALL that to NY to move up 1 spot? Unlikely. But if so, I'd STRONGLY urge the team to take that deal. We'd probably still be able to draft Mudiay.

One man's potential junk is another man's potential treasure.

For them, that one spot might actually be trading up to #1.

I'm speculating, of course. Did read that they told the Latvian last year that they would take him in the lottery if he was in the draft.

Inside outside with Vucevich.

Question- If, for some reason, Towns fell to 4, and you had the 5th pick, and you believed he was hands down the best player in the draft.

What would you offer to get Towns?


Are we talking about the Knicks and what we have now to offer up in a trade?? Because we don't have much.

If you had the 5th, a 2nd this year, and next year's 1st & 2nd, would you give them up for Towns if he fell for some strange reason?

Towns became a mythical figure after his workout video..He really didn't have any offensive moves at Kentucky..But after seeing his workouts where he couldn't miss a jumper then people want to trade future first round picks for him..Its like college never happened..


I agree in many ways with this, same was true with Stein in that workout, but Towns was supposedly knocking down 3s in HS, and is good at the line. I also saw some nice moves in the post vs Wisc- he and Kaminsky had some good battles down low, too. He was protected on D by guys like Stein and Lyles, and their other bigs, too.

My thing with Towns is that there is no way he and his size 20 feet can play the 4 in this league the way it is developing. Don't see the movement. Has to be a 5, and Minny already has a decent center, who I don't think can play PF.

My KG 2.0 theory is that Saunders, who loves Porzingis, flips with LA, who then gets a very happy Towns. Minny gets LA's 27th and their very early #2 (34th).

Just a theory, but who knows.

I'm amazed..U just went thru this discussion about overhyped players because of workout video and then u propose an insane trade of the best player in the draft for the biggest overhyped 4 minute video star in the 2015 draft..

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6/15/2015  11:13 PM
Chad ford is terrible.
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