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WaltLongmire
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6/8/2015  2:37 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/8/2015  2:54 PM
Western Conference exec saying Towns at 1, Russell at 2, Winston Winslow at 3.

Interesting.

He said that it is less about OK4 than what the other teams want.

Quite a coup for us if we can take OK4...no?

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6/8/2015  2:43 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/8/2015  2:48 PM
This would be awesome if it happens. I can see the Lakers taking Russell, I can even see the Wolves taking Russell with the first pick. Towns going first or second. Mudiay or Wnslow going to the Sixer and Okafor to the Knicks.
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6/8/2015  2:48 PM
The Lakers need help in both the Center and PG positions...so picking up Russell makes sense but quality big men are so hard to find. I would be surprised if the Lakers pass on a big like Okafor or Towns.
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6/8/2015  2:49 PM
it's always possible... all it takes is the lakers to not take okafor and he will be available for the knicks....

i don't think it's likely... porzingis is a hard sell at #2... mudiay is a possibility but i think it's remote unless he blew away the workout...

i think it's all just posturing with talking up russell or mudiay or whoever to wrangle something from the sixers...

the sixers taking winslow would be no good...

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6/8/2015  2:49 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:The Lakers need help in both the Center and PG positions...so picking up Russell makes sense but quality big men are so hard to find. I would be surprised if the Lakers pass on a big like Okafor or Towns.

The Lakers got Clarkson who might be a top 5 player in last years draft who plays PG.

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6/8/2015  2:49 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/8/2015  2:50 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:Western Conference exec saying Towns at 1, Russell at 2, Winston at 3.

Interesting.

He said that it is less about OK4 than what the other teams want.

Quite a coup for us if we can take OK4...no?

Jameis Winston, the two sport star at 3?

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6/8/2015  2:55 PM
holfresh wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:Western Conference exec saying Towns at 1, Russell at 2, Winston at 3.

Interesting.

He said that it is less about OK4 than what the other teams want.

Quite a coup for us if we can take OK4...no?

Jameis Winston, the two sport star at 3?

He's multitalented. Think about those outlet passes.


Changed it at bit...thanks.

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6/8/2015  2:57 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/8/2015  2:58 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:The Lakers need help in both the Center and PG positions...so picking up Russell makes sense but quality big men are so hard to find. I would be surprised if the Lakers pass on a big like Okafor or Towns.

The Lakers got Clarkson who might be a top 5 player in last years draft who plays PG.


Russell might be seen as a combo guard by them, perhaps, which is really what Kobe was, no?

I think he's working out at LA today.

I think he passes the big butt test, too.

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6/8/2015  3:03 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/8/2015  3:04 PM
I have a hard time believing Sixers would opt to simply keep the pick if Russell is indeed their target, was taken at #2 (worst kept secret for a month now that Hinkie wants 1) a guard 2) Likes Russell a lot)...They'd be hard pressed not to either take the "best available"-presumably Okafor, or trade the pick.

But man, if by some stroke of luck OK4 fell to us? That would be great.

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6/8/2015  3:04 PM
Don't torture yourselves- accept we have lost Towns, OK4 and Russell and try to move on (while your heart hangs heavy and your eyes sting with bitter tears). The truth is we're not going to draft a franchise changer now, but we can draft a good contributing player.
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6/8/2015  3:06 PM
We've been saying this for a while now... if the Lakers take a guard... they kinda blow up the board for a lot of teams.

I think the Sixers would look to trade pick 3, but who knows, maybe they take Winslow or Porzingis or Mudiay. Hinkie is said to value a player's upside and ceiling more than anything else, so maybe he will take Mudiay?

I think there is a small chance Okafor could be there at 4 for the Knicks. It all depends on what the Lakers do... and I guess whether the rumors are true about the T'Wolves liking Okafor more than Towns?

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6/8/2015  3:09 PM
H1AND1 wrote:I have a hard time believing Sixers would opt to simply keep the pick if Russell is indeed their target (worst kept secret for a month now)...They'd be hard pressed not to either take the "best available"-presumably Okafor, or trade the pick.

But man, if by some stroke of luck OK4 fell to us? That would be great.

Depends what they think of Mudiay, I suppose, but you figure folks are scared by that LA workout.


I can see what you are saying about the Sixers, though.. though, if OK4 is around at 3, they will get a ton of offers, I would think. Might also be true if he is at 4, to be honest.

Maybe Philly trades down and takes Payne and someone else later on, or maybe they trade down and take Porzingis or Hezonja. I know they like Porzingis, but Hezonja would be an interesting fit for them, IMO.

If LA takes Russell, that is a draft changer, whatever actually happens.

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6/8/2015  4:04 PM
paper selling ... no way in hell that ok4 drops to us
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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6/8/2015  4:07 PM
From the "for what it is worth department":

Was out on 6/6.

http://www.nba.com/2015/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/06/06/lakers-could-certainly-go-with-russell-with-second-pick/index.html

Guard Russell is realistic option for Lakers at No. 2
Selecting big man would almost be duplicate pick of Randle in '14

BY SCOTT HOWARD-COOPER
NBA.COM

Away from the consensus, distanced from the assumptions, there is a logical case to be made for the Lakers to take Ohio State guard D'Angelo Russell with the second pick in the June 25 Draft and not simply inherit the big man the Timberwolves do not take at No. 1.
There is such a logical case, in fact, that front offices outside Los Angeles buy the premise without hesitation. Russell is considered that good -- "I would take him No. 1," said an executive with a team that isn't picking high enough to be impacted by the top five being shuffled -- and the Lakers have that unique of circumstances.


At the very least, Russell has been a realistic option for the Lakers all along, even if Kentucky center-power forward Karl-Anthony Towns and Duke center Jahlil Okafor have held the top two spots in the eyes of most teams almost all season. Now that the lottery order has been set since May 19, and with the draft getting closer, there is talk around the league that Russell at No. 2 is a legitimate possibility.
If the Timberwolves select Okafor, Towns is an easier choice for the Lakers because he has more range on his shot and will defend. But if Minnesota goes Towns, regarded by most scouts and executives as more versatile than Okafor and with a higher ceiling, Jim Buss and Mitch Kupchak in the L.A. front office will be making a close call loaded with questions and implications.
Okafor, with advanced post moves for a freshman, projects as a dependable scoring threat from the post, the lower risk of the picks because he will deliver eight or 10 seasons of interior offense in the Al Jefferson mold. Okafor won't fit into an up-tempo style and teams question whether he will reach solid on defense, but throw him the ball and he will generate points. On his own, he isn't a conflict.

The presence of Julius Randle is.

Okafor at center, Randle at power forward and both isolation players is a potential logjam. Randle, who essentially missed all 2014-15 after fracturing his right leg in the season opener, has shown signs he can expand his offense to include a mid-range game. But if that doesn't happen, a Randle-Okafor big-man tandem makes the Lakers easy to defend. In some ways, Okafor would be a duplication pick.


After being named a consensus first-team All-American as a freshman at Ohio State, D'Angelo Russell is working hard to succeed at the next level.

The lure of Russell is that he would be a perimeter threat to go with Randle's inside presence, beyond the other obvious lure: Russell has the chance to be a dynamic offensive weapon, with the scoring range of a shooting guard and "elite" passing skills, in the view of one general manager, of a point guard. The package, plus the common thread as left-handers, has drawn comparisons to James Harden.
"Not as big, but that ease of the game that (Harden) has," the GM said. "The ability to pass. He makes the game look pretty easy."
The Lakers will be making a judgment on Randle from the 2014 Draft as well as the prospects from 2015, a consideration that may also include Emmanuel Mudiay as a distributing point guard with size and athleticism. There is no clear answer.

Have to think that Mudiay is not on their list anymore, unless he looked entirely different when he was not recorded.

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6/8/2015  5:01 PM
I would be surprised if Okafor fell to 3 and Philly didn't just draft him to trade either he, embiid, or noel for more future picks.....
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6/8/2015  5:19 PM
I don't see him dropping - too hard to see such a skilled big man drop- but with our luck, he does & phil has promised our pick to WCS or someone else (Kaminsky!)
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6/8/2015  7:55 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/8/2015  7:56 PM
franco12 wrote:I don't see him dropping - too hard to see such a skilled big man drop- but with our luck, he does & phil has promised our pick to WCS or someone else (Kaminsky!)

Andre Drummond, Joel Embiid, Brook Lopez, Nerlens Noel and DeAndre Jordan have dropped in recent years. Anything is possible, especially if teams put much stock into playing more uptempo.

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6/8/2015  10:57 PM
Man, I hope so. People are saying the best low post game out of college since Tim Duncan, getting compared to Al Jefferson, has the body and length, draw doubles and can pass out of them this is what we need for the Triangle. He has one of the highest upsides love to get him or Russell.
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6/8/2015  11:04 PM
Dime Magazine used the Knicks blog as a source for their story. http://uproxx.com/dimemag/2015/06/jahlil-okafor-new-york-knicks-fourth-pick-nba-draft/. Nice work by Schlosser.
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6/8/2015  11:06 PM
I would be extremely happy if the Knicks can take either Towns and OK4. It was a dream to me after I know we got no. 4.
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