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BRIGGS
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6/3/2015  4:06 PM
#4 and Cleanthony Early to Minnesota

to NY

pick 31 and 35
G Zach Lavine
GF Shabazz Muhammed
F G Dieng
C Justin Hamilton.

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Knicks1969
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6/3/2015  4:09 PM
Hell no
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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6/3/2015  4:10 PM
No. I want to draft a player with our pick. 31 & 35 will not be good enough talent, and as much as I like ZL, he's not franchise changing talent.
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6/3/2015  4:10 PM
No way.
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6/3/2015  4:13 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/3/2015  4:45 PM
No No No
Replace the #4 pick with a 2nd round pick. That's all I'd offer. They can keep Lavine otherwise.
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6/3/2015  4:16 PM
LOL there is no way we would get the level of cumulative talent in one pick. Each player in Muhhammed Lavine and Dieng BY THEMSELEVS could be better than pick #4

IF Zach Lavine stayed at UCLA this year--exactly where do you think hed be drafted? He could easily be 2 or 3.

The only reason I even post this is because I have read that Minneosta really likes Porzingis a LOT. They liked him well before they found out they were #1. By giving thgem 4 we could pick apart their talent level--that would be a coup of players with athletic talent.

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6/3/2015  4:26 PM
absolutely not... that is bonkers...
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6/3/2015  4:28 PM
I'd do the deal. I actually think that Minnesota is getting poned. Not enough people give Dieng the credit he deserves. He has legitimate all-star potential. I also like Levine....but I want no part of Muhammed. If we can turn him into a pick, I'd be contented though.
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6/3/2015  4:32 PM
FistOfOakley wrote:absolutely not... that is bonkers...

OMG these replies are ludicrous.

I highly doubt we will see WCS putting up 10-8 2-2 anyitme soon and thats just Dieng
Then you are talking potential NBA superstar guard in the making in Lavine
NBA 6th man of the year potential in Muhammed
and an under rated under the radar C who would be GREAT for the triangle in Hamilton and then you have two picks which could end up being Mickey and Fuzaro which either could also be better than anyone picked at 4?!?!

Ive followed the beat writer for Minnesota--Flip dishes him and he LOVES Porzingis loves him. If we could hit them up like this we could change our team.

RIP Crushalot😞
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6/3/2015  4:34 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
FistOfOakley wrote:absolutely not... that is bonkers...

OMG these replies are ludicrous.

I highly doubt we will see WCS putting up 10-8 2-2 anyitme soon and thats just Dieng
Then you are talking potential NBA superstar guard in the making in Lavine
NBA 6th man of the year potential in Muhammed
and an under rated under the radar C who would be GREAT for the triangle in Hamilton and then you have two picks which could end up being Mickey and Fuzaro which either could also be better than anyone picked at 4?!?!

Ive followed the beat writer for Minnesota--Flip dishes him and he LOVES Porzingis loves him. If we could hit them up like this we could change our team.

If we could get a pick for Shabazz and dump Calderon on them, I'd make the deal.
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BRIGGS wrote:
FistOfOakley wrote:absolutely not... that is bonkers...

OMG these replies are ludicrous.

I highly doubt we will see WCS putting up 10-8 2-2 anyitme soon and thats just Dieng
Then you are talking potential NBA superstar guard in the making in Lavine
NBA 6th man of the year potential in Muhammed
and an under rated under the radar C who would be GREAT for the triangle in Hamilton and then you have two picks which could end up being Mickey and Fuzaro which either could also be better than anyone picked at 4?!?!

Ive followed the beat writer for Minnesota--Flip dishes him and he LOVES Porzingis loves him. If we could hit them up like this we could change our team.

A lot of what a guy like WCS will do will not reflect on a stat sheet. No thanks to that Minny trade.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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6/3/2015  4:37 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
FistOfOakley wrote:absolutely not... that is bonkers...

OMG these replies are ludicrous.

I highly doubt we will see WCS putting up 10-8 2-2 anyitme soon and thats just Dieng
Then you are talking potential NBA superstar guard in the making in Lavine
NBA 6th man of the year potential in Muhammed
and an under rated under the radar C who would be GREAT for the triangle in Hamilton and then you have two picks which could end up being Mickey and Fuzaro which either could also be better than anyone picked at 4?!?!

Ive followed the beat writer for Minnesota--Flip dishes him and he LOVES Porzingis loves him. If we could hit them up like this we could change our team.

You can't base the trade solely on the guess that we are drafting WCS. That is far from even likely at this point. And if everyone is disagreeing, maybe its for a reason. You don't get really fancy with trading a draft picks like the 4th, because if a player drafted at that spot becomes a star, you just ruined the franchise yet again. You take the BPA and hope they become a star, unless you have a proven, young all-star talent available for the pick. That is the only exception.
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6/3/2015  4:37 PM
Not sure Minny would do it, to be honest.

They give up a decent defensive center who will go well with Towns, a SF who made nice progress, and Lavine, who is the wild card.

If you think Lavine can be a PG, I'm not sure you would let him go.

You'd probably shop Rubio around.

You add Towns to this group and maybe a steal at 31, and you have the makings of a good team.

If they make the trade, Minny probably takes Winslow, Mudiay, or maybe Porzingis, but aren't they setting themselves back a bit?


For the guys who just say no about this trade, it is really not bad for the Knicks. We can move Anthony to 4 and he'll be protected by a good defender, who improved his game this year. You have small forward who also improved his game and is only 22, and then you have Lavine, who has some potential, despite being inconsistent.

Hamilton is a big body, and the 2 second round picks are pretty low- you would get at least one nice player, I would bet.

Don't think Minny would do it, but it would be quite a blockbuster on draft night.

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6/3/2015  4:38 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
FistOfOakley wrote:absolutely not... that is bonkers...

OMG these replies are ludicrous.

I highly doubt we will see WCS putting up 10-8 2-2 anyitme soon and thats just Dieng
Then you are talking potential NBA superstar guard in the making in Lavine
NBA 6th man of the year potential in Muhammed
and an under rated under the radar C who would be GREAT for the triangle in Hamilton and then you have two picks which could end up being Mickey and Fuzaro which either could also be better than anyone picked at 4?!?!

Ive followed the beat writer for Minnesota--Flip dishes him and he LOVES Porzingis loves him. If we could hit them up like this we could change our team.

Actually I think WCS could actually put up better than 10-8 and he could match 2-2. Let's not get into hyperbole to try and make a point.

I still don't understand why Minny would make such a deal. It seems like a huge gamble for the #4 pick. Why wouldn't they just keep their collection of talent rather than send it out for basically one prospect?
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6/3/2015  4:40 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
FistOfOakley wrote:absolutely not... that is bonkers...

OMG these replies are ludicrous.

I highly doubt we will see WCS putting up 10-8 2-2 anyitme soon and thats just Dieng
Then you are talking potential NBA superstar guard in the making in Lavine
NBA 6th man of the year potential in Muhammed
and an under rated under the radar C who would be GREAT for the triangle in Hamilton and then you have two picks which could end up being Mickey and Fuzaro which either could also be better than anyone picked at 4?!?!

Ive followed the beat writer for Minnesota--Flip dishes him and he LOVES Porzingis loves him. If we could hit them up like this we could change our team.

A lot of what a guy like WCS will do will not reflect on a stat sheet. No thanks to that Minny trade.


Ahhh...can't you say the same about Dieng?
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nixluva wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
FistOfOakley wrote:absolutely not... that is bonkers...

OMG these replies are ludicrous.

I highly doubt we will see WCS putting up 10-8 2-2 anyitme soon and thats just Dieng
Then you are talking potential NBA superstar guard in the making in Lavine
NBA 6th man of the year potential in Muhammed
and an under rated under the radar C who would be GREAT for the triangle in Hamilton and then you have two picks which could end up being Mickey and Fuzaro which either could also be better than anyone picked at 4?!?!

Ive followed the beat writer for Minnesota--Flip dishes him and he LOVES Porzingis loves him. If we could hit them up like this we could change our team.

Actually I think WCS could actually put up better than 10-8 and he could match 2-2. Let's not get into hyperbole to try and make a point.

I still don't understand why Minny would make such a deal. It seems like a huge gamble for the #4 pick. Why wouldn't they just keep their collection of talent rather than send it out for basically one prospect?


Agree that Minny would not make the trade, BUT

I only have to go to he Stein thread to hear all the hyperbole a person can stand. I stopped posting there because it has become some kind masturbatory love fest for some.

Just hope folks are not reading and posting about him when they are with people.

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nixluva wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
FistOfOakley wrote:absolutely not... that is bonkers...

OMG these replies are ludicrous.

I highly doubt we will see WCS putting up 10-8 2-2 anyitme soon and thats just Dieng
Then you are talking potential NBA superstar guard in the making in Lavine
NBA 6th man of the year potential in Muhammed
and an under rated under the radar C who would be GREAT for the triangle in Hamilton and then you have two picks which could end up being Mickey and Fuzaro which either could also be better than anyone picked at 4?!?!

Ive followed the beat writer for Minnesota--Flip dishes him and he LOVES Porzingis loves him. If we could hit them up like this we could change our team.

Actually I think WCS could actually put up better than 10-8 and he could match 2-2. Let's not get into hyperbole to try and make a point.

I still don't understand why Minny would make such a deal. It seems like a huge gamble for the #4 pick. Why wouldn't they just keep their collection of talent rather than send it out for basically one prospect?

The beat writer for the Wolves has been talking about Porzingis for 2 months. he has broken news before its happened a few times. He thinks Flip believes Kristaps is KG #2.

RIP Crushalot😞
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6/3/2015  4:58 PM
BRIGGS wrote:#4 and Cleanthony Early to Minnesota

to NY

pick 31 and 35
G Zach Lavine
GF Shabazz Muhammed
F G Dieng
C Justin Hamilton.

kill youself

ES
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6/3/2015  5:00 PM
BRIGGS wrote:#4 and Cleanthony Early to Minnesota

to NY

pick 31 and 35
G Zach Lavine
GF Shabazz Muhammed
F G Dieng
C Justin Hamilton.

No but it isn't a horrible trade I would j7st hope the knicks could do better

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6/3/2015  5:04 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
nixluva wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
FistOfOakley wrote:absolutely not... that is bonkers...

OMG these replies are ludicrous.

I highly doubt we will see WCS putting up 10-8 2-2 anyitme soon and thats just Dieng
Then you are talking potential NBA superstar guard in the making in Lavine
NBA 6th man of the year potential in Muhammed
and an under rated under the radar C who would be GREAT for the triangle in Hamilton and then you have two picks which could end up being Mickey and Fuzaro which either could also be better than anyone picked at 4?!?!

Ive followed the beat writer for Minnesota--Flip dishes him and he LOVES Porzingis loves him. If we could hit them up like this we could change our team.

Actually I think WCS could actually put up better than 10-8 and he could match 2-2. Let's not get into hyperbole to try and make a point.

I still don't understand why Minny would make such a deal. It seems like a huge gamble for the #4 pick. Why wouldn't they just keep their collection of talent rather than send it out for basically one prospect?

The beat writer for the Wolves has been talking about Porzingis for 2 months. he has broken news before its happened a few times. He thinks Flip believes Kristaps is KG #2.

Minny taking Porzingis throws Russell or OK4 into the mix with Mudiay at #4, though, unless LA stuns and takes Russell, which means Philly decides our fate.

A lot depends on how good Saunders thinks Dieng is, since he would be the protection for Porzingis as he matures.

Briggs, this would be the one scenario where we could actually choose from Towns or OK4.

Stranger things have happened, I suppose.

Porzingis worked out at some park in Brooklyn, the other day and heads to Las Vegas for the kind of workout we've seen from Towns and others. Not sure he is doing private workouts.

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