nixluva wrote:My views on Monroe are pretty well known i'm sure. I caught all kinds of grief trying to defend the idea of signing him. I think when it's all said and done he's a solid FA pick up. He's young enough but has NBA experience. You know what you're gonna get from him and this team needs a dependable Low Post Big that is a good passer and hits the boards. He just needs to continue to make improvement on D. His max is lower than the older vets which makes him a bargain IMO.

He'll get more touches in our system and he should be able to put up even better production than in Detroit where he wasn't used properly. He should see an increase in assists and points playing in the Triangle where he'll get more deep touches. I think he'd be the perfect companion to WCS if we drafted him.

his numbers are intriguing. what about character? gotta get players who are going to contribute to culture change otherwise it's still melo's team and that would suck so bad don't get me started

Physically he isn't good at defens but multiple coaches have said that mentally he is tuned in so hopefully he can improve there to at least keep other centers from scoring. I doubt he ever becomes good at stopping the PnR though

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wargames wrote:I like Monroe because I think he's better offensively than his time in Detroit shows because he's been in a badly spaced front court with Drummond. The fact that he is 24 and his Max cap hit will only be around 15 mil is also another plus. He has the skills to be a legit 20/10/5 Center.

Physically he isn't good at defens but multiple coaches have said that mentally he is tuned in so hopefully he can improve there to at least keep other centers from scoring. I doubt he ever becomes good at stopping the PnR though

why will he be weak on the pick and roll defense? is he too heavy and slow-footed?

He lacks lateral speed and doesn't react quick enough to block most shots. I don't think he can add to that part of his game at this point but he is young so you never know.

The reason he could become a decent man defender in the paint. Is that he usually goes to the right spot on the floor to defend in the paint and has quick enough hands to get steals. His issues in the paint is his reaction time to block is slow and he isn't a giant that just intimidates opponents in the paint. If he becomes stronger though he could make it harder for opponent to post up on him.

I am tired to hear the notion that Monroe does not bring wins to the team so we do not need him. To see what has happened on Jr Smith and Iman Shumpert showed that a change is needed when necessary.

BRIGGS wrote:Greg Monroe is sort of the interior version of Andrea Bargnani So the points should be a little more consistent and hes a very solid rebounder. But he will give back in gains with slow court movements up and down and playing against other smaller C's especially who simply can go right around him.

Except he is an exceptional rebounder and good passer whereas Barg is neither of those. Monroe averaged 10 rpg next to Drummond. He'll probably get 12 per game in NY, and average 4 assists with the way the offense runs thru the high post. He could be a 18/12/4 and 50% player here next season.

Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Greg Monroe is sort of the interior version of Andrea Bargnani So the points should be a little more consistent and hes a very solid rebounder. But he will give back in gains with slow court movements up and down and playing against other smaller C's especially who simply can go right around him.

Except he is an exceptional rebounder and good passer whereas Barg is neither of those. Monroe averaged 10 rpg next to Drummond. He'll probably get 12 per game in NY, and average 4 assists with the way the offense runs thru the high post. He could be a 18/12/4 and 50% player here next season.

Yep the Bargs comparison is ridiculous- he's like Bargs except consistent and good at rebounding and doesn't shoot. WTF?!