Leaders:
Jayson Terry
Draymond Green
Noah
D west

I'd agree this is a big issue, along with talent levels.

I think Mudiay might be the kind of character who could bring leadership - but he isn't doing that as a rookie.

I'd love to get Dragic because I think he could help.

But we're probably going to look to Calderon and Bargnani for leadership.

CrushAlot wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Moonangie wrote:WE MUST ADDRESS THE TENDENCY OF 1969 TO USE ALL CAPS IN HIS THREAD TITLES!!!!!!!!!!

I disagree, i think the issue deserves a decent size protest outside of MSG, because it's that serious.

The Hawks were a prime example, better yet, when have the knicks been remotely successful without a leader.

The last time the Knicks signed a 'leader' they paid him 15 mil and he was either hurt, sick or didn't show up in big games. When times got tough he tried to get his coach fired and criticized the coach and his teammates in the media. The Knicks need to make sure they don't over pay for a faux leader over a more talented player. If guys are focused on one team goal leaders will step up. Moving out talented guys that as Knicks had character flaws seems to indicate that the new regime wants high character players

who is this leader that you speak of?

crzymdups wrote:

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Moonangie wrote:WE MUST ADDRESS THE TENDENCY OF 1969 TO USE ALL CAPS IN HIS THREAD TITLES!!!!!!!!!!

I disagree, i think the issue deserves a decent size protest outside of MSG, because it's that serious.

The Hawks were a prime example, better yet, when have the knicks been remotely successful without a leader.

The last time the Knicks signed a 'leader' they paid him 15 mil and he was either hurt, sick or didn't show up in big games. When times got tough he tried to get his coach fired and criticized the coach and his teammates in the media. The Knicks need to make sure they don't over pay for a faux leader over a more talented player. If guys are focused on one team goal leaders will step up. Moving out talented guys that as Knicks had character flaws seems to indicate that the new regime wants high character players

who is this leader that you speak of?

I think he meant JKidd

ha! the only leader that we've had in years

crzymdups wrote:

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Moonangie wrote:WE MUST ADDRESS THE TENDENCY OF 1969 TO USE ALL CAPS IN HIS THREAD TITLES!!!!!!!!!!

I disagree, i think the issue deserves a decent size protest outside of MSG, because it's that serious.

The Hawks were a prime example, better yet, when have the knicks been remotely successful without a leader.

The last time the Knicks signed a 'leader' they paid him 15 mil and he was either hurt, sick or didn't show up in big games. When times got tough he tried to get his coach fired and criticized the coach and his teammates in the media. The Knicks need to make sure they don't over pay for a faux leader over a more talented player. If guys are focused on one team goal leaders will step up. Moving out talented guys that as Knicks had character flaws seems to indicate that the new regime wants high character players

who is this leader that you speak of?

I think he meant JKidd

crzymdups wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Moonangie wrote:WE MUST ADDRESS THE TENDENCY OF 1969 TO USE ALL CAPS IN HIS THREAD TITLES!!!!!!!!!!

I disagree, i think the issue deserves a decent size protest outside of MSG, because it's that serious.

The Hawks were a prime example, better yet, when have the knicks been remotely successful without a leader.

The last time the Knicks signed a 'leader' they paid him 15 mil and he was either hurt, sick or didn't show up in big games. When times got tough he tried to get his coach fired and criticized the coach and his teammates in the media. The Knicks need to make sure they don't over pay for a faux leader over a more talented player. If guys are focused on one team goal leaders will step up. Moving out talented guys that as Knicks had character flaws seems to indicate that the new regime wants high character players

who is this leader that you speak of?

I think he meant JKidd

The money would have been better spent on Kidd. This guy was exposed once Kidd was done.

Kmart? Richard Jefferson???

I think he is referring to Tyson Chandler

TripleThreat wrote:

Knixkik wrote:That will be easy to find. It doesn't have to be a star, it can be a role player.

Melo wanted out of Denver and wanted every last dollar he could get, despite knowing a trade would gut his new team, Melo got what he wanted.

Melo wanted Pringles gone, can't have a coach who preaches things like let the flow of the game dictate the shot, Melo got what he wanted.

Melo wasn't going to stand for Jeremy Lin getting MVP chants and the cover of Time magazine, so the young point guard had to go, Melo got what he wanted.

Melo wasn't going to have anyone else tell the team what to do or how to act, so Tyson Chandler had to go, so Chandler got traded, saddling the team with the horrible Calderon contract, Melo got what he wanted.

Notice a mother ****ing trend here?

Melo gets what he wants. The team GETS PROGRESSIVELY WORSE. Anyone else who shows any semblance of taking away any kind of attention away from Melo has to go and gets hatched in the press by Leon Rose and CAA as lapdogs.

Melo wants to be the Alpha Dog, but none of the responsibility of actual leadership. You know things like showing up in shape, playing defense, knowing when to shut his big fat mouth from saying stupid things in the press, and driving off anyone who could help the Knicks in that regard.

If you want true leadership on the roster, MELO HAS TO GO. Melo isn't going to tolerate anyone who gets more attention from the press than he gets.

Some of you guys are going to immediately say anyone who criticizes Melo's lack of leadership as "Melo Hate" except the people who criticize Melo do so BY POINTING OUT VERY SPECIFIC THINGS HE FAILS TO DO THAT OTHER FRANCHISES PLAYERS DO AS A MATTER OF COURSE WHILE UPHOLDING THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES TO THEIR FRANCHISES.

A "leader" doesn't need a 60 million dollar geriatric splash hiring to explain why playing team basketball is important.

A "leader" doesn't need to be cajoled to show up in shape.

A "leader" actually put forth effort on defense.

A "leader" doesn't risk his long term health under his current contract so he can play in an All Star game for his "branding"

A "leader" doesn't drive off players and coaches who can actually help the team win.

Since Melo showed up, this team has GOTTEN WORSE.

Didn't he recently help the Knicks to win 50+ games just three years ago???? The dude may not be Lebron, but he is valuable. It is not his fault the front office decision makers are to dumb to know how to get the best out of him. Surround the dude with smart people, he will be successful