I think he can really good. If the Knicks are looking for a game ready rookie, and I think they will be, I would rate him behind Willie Cauley Stein. Kaminsky will obviously be the better offensive player, but I just feel WCS will be elite defensively.

But, yeah, Kaminsky was impressive as hell this season. He should be a top ten pick for sure, I can't believe some mocks have him outside the top ten.

My main issue with him, is if you draft him, you'd better pray we sign Gasol, because otherwise I don't see how you build a team thats good enough defensively to make the playoffs.

crzymdups wrote:I will say I don't know how anyone could look at Kaminsky and look at Porzingis and come away wanting Porzingis more.

You're right. While Porzingis has a higher plateau Tell me why Frank Kaminsky can't be a great player and at the same time a much safer bet. Are we going to get an nba player in free agency who is better than Frank Kaminsky? in some ways Frank might be the only truly polished complete player in the lottery. Also on that quick little snippet testing athletic ability with the dunks he looks more than fine for a 7-1 guy. I suggested taking Kaminsky 4 on realgm and I think people really wanted to reach through the computer and punch me.But the reality is he is very likely the best choice if you add everything up.

smackeddog wrote:One thing I will say, all these threads have made me even more indecisive about who we draft- just when I think I've gotten a clearer idea of who to draft, another scouting video comes along.

My first pick after learning we picked 4 was Kaminsky he's a guy I've been fully solid on. We haven't been in the lottery in years and there multiple choices so just like buying a car or house you shop a bit. Some houses are fancy cost more have some more features and you start thinking wow yet the whole time that first house you looked at with all the basics was really the best choice. Frank is the most under rated player in the top 20

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nixluva wrote:I like Kaminsky. I think he's going to have a good NBA career. I don't see him as a Knick without a trade for the #4 pick tho. It's not that Kaminsky isn't a good player just that you could get him lower than #4 so that's what i'd expect to happen if they drafted Kaminsky.

I'd like to trade down too and get a future 1 but he could go at 6they have cousins why wouldn't Kaminsky be perfect for them?

I see Sacramento snapping up WCS to fit perfectly next to Cousins at 6. I don't think Stein falls lower than sixth.

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crzymdups wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Time for a "the case for Kaminsky thread', methinks.

My main issue with him, is if you draft him, you'd better pray we sign Gasol, because otherwise I don't see how you build a team thats good enough defensively to make the playoffs.

That's my issue with him.

I'm sort of convinced that we're signing Greg Monroe - Monroe and Kaminsky would be terrible together.

Perhaps that's a false assumption I'm toiling under though.

Kaminsky Monroe would be the best passing big men tandem in the nba. Since Frank can play a Mobil 4 Monroe would have his space in the paint . On defense you have 2 seven footers

yeah, I'm coming around to that idea... oy, this draft is confusing me.

I'd still prefer Stein. But Kaminsky may be the best pure shooter of the lotto picks - he's at least second best behind Russell.

His ability to stretch to the three point line would give Melo and possibly Monroe a ton of space.

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crzymdups wrote:I will say I don't know how anyone could look at Kaminsky and look at Porzingis and come away wanting Porzingis more.

You're right. While Porzingis has a higher plateau Tell me why Frank Kaminsky can't be a great player and at the same time a much safer bet. Are we going to get an nba player in free agency who is better than Frank Kaminsky? in some ways Frank might be the only truly polished complete player in the lottery. Also on that quick little snippet testing athletic ability with the dunks he looks more than fine for a 7-1 guy. I suggested taking Kaminsky 4 on realgm and I think people really wanted to reach through the computer and punch me.But the reality is he is very likely the best choice if you add everything up.

I think for this draft, it's ok to reach for who you want at pick #4. I asked you the same question, but never got an answer. Whats the difference between Porzingis and Kaminsky? If Porzingis is worth selecting at #4, why not Kaminsky?

Also, you don't need or want an entire team of players around Melo to be defensive players. You need players that can play both sides. Kaminsky plays positional defense....He's a smart player. He's also 21 years old and far from looking like an NBA superstar. Same with WCS.....

So do you pick a player that's already mature and ready to impact now....

Or do you pick a player that's 2-3 years younger, still growing, and still has potential to be an NBA superstar?

I believe Phil will swing for a superstar at pick #4 and build through free agency. Or trade pick #4 and pick up a WCS / Kaminsky type.....A mature player ready to contribute. Or trade for a veteran player or two (Lawson / Cousins).

At this point, I'm sold on all the picks with potential....and picks ready to impact now! This is the best position to be in for the franchise, but the worse position to be in for a Rookie GM.