Bargnani: NOOOOOOOOOOOO NO NO NO NO NO. NO. No. Nyet.

Jason Smith: I go back and forth on this. I guess for cheap he'd be okay, but I think he's very flawed and borderline useless on D.

Cole: I like his defense and hustle. Weirdly, it feels like he's one of the longest tenured Knicks at this point.

Sweet Lou Amundson: Absolutely, yes. Lunch pail guy. Hustles. Yes yes yes.

Acy: Eh. Nah.

Wear: I don't get why people like him. Never been impressed, other than that first Cleveland game where he checked Bron for a bit (it should be noted, Bron was waaaaay off his game in the early season, until about January)

Larkin: I go back and forth on Larkin. I like him, he plays hard and he's made some clutch plays and I feel like he brings a good energy at PG. He's a little short though and gets killed on D. I do like him as a change of pace guard. I'd bring him back at the right price, I think.

Shved: SHVED! I go really back and forth on Shved. He looked damn good... but with the ball in his hands a lot. And he was running a lot of pick and roll. Was that something Fisher was okay with? Was he breaking the Triangle? He's also not cheap at $4M qualifying offer and $6M cap hold until he signs that QO. I say if we can tell we aren't getting any of the big fish in FA, extend Shved the QO and see how he does for a full season in the Triangle when we are trying to win games. I would like to see more from him.

Shved is a guy I look at depending on how the draft and FA go for us. He'll be a second or third tier FA. He's a guy who isnt' going to get offers anywhere until the big fish settle anyway. But I do like him, and he gets to the rim and draws fouls, which a lot of guys on this team cannot do.

brybry wrote:

callmened wrote:http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/4/30/8512895/p-t-round-ball-table-which-free-agents-should-the-knicks-keep

i thought this was kinda funny. what are your thoughts?

Lance thomas - sure ...as a 12th man
Bargnani - no simply for the fact that he reminds me of how toronto robbed us. plus injury prone
Shved - as a backup PG for the triangle
Larkin - i dont think he belongs in the nba
J.Smith - sure as a cheap backup
Cole - sure as a 15th man
Lou Amundesen - sure as a 14th man
Acy - no, im not sure he belongs in the nba
wear - see acy

lance - no.

bargs - fukk no.

shved - only if he rescinds his QO and takes the room except.

larkin - eh. minimum

j smith - eh. min.

cole - eh. min.

amund - ABSOLUTELY.

acy - no.

wear - no.

Does it really make sense to bring in 9 new minimum contract players? We may as well keep most of them as at least they kind of know the system- worry about replacing them gradually over the next two seasons.

smackeddog wrote:

callmened wrote:http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/4/30/8512895/p-t-round-ball-table-which-free-agents-should-the-knicks-keep

i thought this was kinda funny. what are your thoughts?

Lance thomas - sure ...as a 12th man
Bargnani - no simply for the fact that he reminds me of how toronto robbed us. plus injury prone
Shved - as a backup PG for the triangle
Larkin - i dont think he belongs in the nba
J.Smith - sure as a cheap backup
Cole - sure as a 15th man
Lou Amundesen - sure as a 14th man
Acy - no, im not sure he belongs in the nba
wear - see acy

Likely we will need about 9 minimum contract players or more, so I'm fine keeping any of those at that cost. Apart from Bargs.

brybry wrote:

smackeddog wrote:
Does it really make sense to bring in 9 new minimum contract players? We may as well keep most of them as at least they kind of know the system- worry about replacing them gradually over the next two seasons.

does your post really matter?

why respond to me at all, especially over something so meaningless. its min contracts man, guys who basically wont play at ALL. and where did I say to replace 9 guys? huh?

I don't think you understand how discussion forums work

smackeddog wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

callmened wrote:http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/4/30/8512895/p-t-round-ball-table-which-free-agents-should-the-knicks-keep

i thought this was kinda funny. what are your thoughts?

Lance thomas - sure ...as a 12th man
Bargnani - no simply for the fact that he reminds me of how toronto robbed us. plus injury prone
Shved - as a backup PG for the triangle
Larkin - i dont think he belongs in the nba
J.Smith - sure as a cheap backup
Cole - sure as a 15th man
Lou Amundesen - sure as a 14th man
Acy - no, im not sure he belongs in the nba
wear - see acy

Likely we will need about 9 minimum contract players or more, so I'm fine keeping any of those at that cost. Apart from Bargs.

eh, probably not a good idea to bring back the majority of a .200 team

They're just minimum contract players, they should be serviceable as end of bench guys- our focus this season just needs to be on adding 1 or 2 starters by free agency, and drafting another. get a bench player for the $3mil exemption.

I've made this point before - that bringing back so many players who contributed to a 200 team is foolish - but the reality is that after Shump & JR got shipped out and Melo left, the core group really played hard - the effort was there, and if you bring a hopefully healthy Melo back, 1 high impact draft pick and 1-3 impact free agents, then that core group becomes support and role players filling in the cracks, and the new guys & Melo can do the heavy lifting as far as every day production.

I think Lance, Shved, Cole & Lou are definites - and unless there is a big upgrade available, Acy is nice, J Smith on the right contract would be great. Wear didn't do much and as far as Larkin, we need an upgrade in the back court - too many marginal role players there - one has to go, and Larkin might be odd man out.

Bargs is such a sore thumb. I'd offer him 1 year at most, minimum type money and the first hurt ankle, off he goes.

But seriously, an undrafted rookie would be better placed into his roster slot so we might roll the dice and have a player develop into a marginal role player.