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BRIGGS
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7/1/2004  10:02 PM
they literally traded stephan marbury for lampe and steve Nash who they just gave 5 years and 65 FMILLION! They did all that shifting just to over pay Nash?????? Dallas obviously knew that Nash was leaving and went right after Harris. Now Dallas has three young very athletic guards who make about 1/2 of what Nash makes. I think Dallas is trying to use some financial sanity here as well. 5 years 65 is max money. Pheonix just set a VERY high market and after all is said and done I have to say they fcd up and shouldve just kept Marbury.
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Bonn1997
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7/1/2004  10:32 PM
they also gave up the #7 pick to clear up some cap space to use on Nash. They're idiots.
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7/1/2004  11:45 PM
there's a couple of things that i've learned:

1. mark cuban knows what the F he's doing. he constantly makes these great big time moves and his team doesn't miss a beat. what...you want to leave nash? ok, let's move jamison and get the #5 pick and take devin harris. see ya later nash and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

2. the suns were very down on marbury and wanted to replace him with a more fan friendly player. i don't think they did this with the sole purpose of bringing in nash - they wanted kobe but he probably told them no.

3. jerry colangelo is an idiot.

wow, what an amazing end result.

marbury, hardaway, trybanski for lampe, milos, eisley, and nash

i mean WOW...just goes to show you that just b/c you can clear cap space doesn't mean you know what to do with it.
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7/1/2004  11:54 PM
Read my post on paying max money to Non max type players, this is a dumb move, the suns will now have both nash and marion signed to max deals, this is a odd move...
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7/2/2004  12:13 AM
mark cuban knows what the F he's doing
I'd disagree. I think the lineup he assembled for this past season was one of the dumbest I'd ever seen. Walker and Dirk had to play most of the team's minutes at center. Jamison and Walker should never be on the same team. (Why have two redundant, max contract players?)

The result was predictable. The Mavs were talented enough to win in the regular season, but they won about ten less games than last year and couldn't compete in the playoffs.

Cuban's also had a strikingly obvious need for a low post defender for several years but somehow hasn't been able to even get a role player to fill that role
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7/2/2004  12:18 AM
if this was what they were going to do, I wouldve

A.signed eric dampier for 4 year 40mm$

B.signed marquis daniels to a 3 year 18.5mm$ to play PG[which starts at 5.75]

kept my draft pick and traded down with utah for picks 14 and 16 and swiped Jameer Nelson and Kris Humpheries

That wouldve left me at

C Dampier Voshkul Lampe
PF Stoudemire Humpheries
SF Marion Carbakapa
SG Johnson Jacobsen Barbosa
PG Daniels Nelson Barbosa
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7/2/2004  12:26 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

if this was what they were going to do, I wouldve

A.signed eric dampier for 4 year 40mm$

B.signed marquis daniels to a 3 year 18.5mm$ to play PG[which starts at 5.75]

kept my draft pick and traded down with utah for picks 14 and 16 and swiped Jameer Nelson and Kris Humpheries

That wouldve left me at

C Dampier Voshkul Lampe
PF Stoudemire Humpheries
SF Marion Carbakapa
SG Johnson Jacobsen Barbosa
PG Daniels Nelson Barbosa
Giving up Marbury and the #7 pick to creat a lot of cap room and then using up all the cap room to give nash a 5 yr max contract is the dumbest thing I've heard of in a long time
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7/2/2004  1:07 AM
What a bunch of clowns in Phoenix, talk about mismanagement.

Amare's still a beast, though.
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7/2/2004  2:47 AM
I admit I'm a bit puzzled with that move.
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7/2/2004  3:36 AM
what is so surprising ? nash is better than marbury and is much more clutch as well. and cuban isnt a genius ,otherwise he wouldn't have that moron walker on his team. he might be the most overrated player in the game.
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7/2/2004  3:38 AM
Posted by MaseInYourFace:

what is so surprising ? nash is better than marbury and is much more clutch as well.

please, you're embarrassing yourself.


[Edited by - raven on 07/02/2004 03:39:06]
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7/2/2004  3:56 AM
This is all pretty subjective...

Maybe the Suns felt that their talent pool wasn't good enough to lure FA's.... let alone a home crowd. Desperate move by them IMO.
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7/2/2004  7:54 AM
Did everyone forget that Penny was on a max deal?

I think they took a gamble that Nash would come back by trading Marbury away. Nash is not a dominant scorer. Nash is a jump shooting point guard and next to Kidd Nash is the fastest point guard in the open court. I think he fits better with the pieces Pheonix has in place.

Amare and Joe Johnson were complaining about Marbs hogging the ball.
I think Nash is a good pick up because they don't really need to do anything else on that team but bring in a point guard.

Amare is going into his 3rd year
Marion
at center they could pick up another free agent
Nash
Joe johnson

That starting line-up is exactly what the Knicks are trying to accomplish this season. I think the Suns did good if you forget about the money they spent.
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Bonn1997
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7/2/2004  9:09 AM
Did everyone forget that Penny was on a max deal?
with only two seasons left (which means one year, really because an expiring contract is easy to move). That's entirely different from overpaying a player with a five year max contract for a player
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7/2/2004  9:29 AM
I don't know about you guys, but I think Dallas screwed up. Nash really wanted to stay with the Mavericks and he said numerous times that he wanted to play with Dirk for the rest of his career. However, Dallas kept mentioning him as trade bait for Shaq and then they move into the draft to get Devin Harris another PG, is anyone really suprised that Nash left? I would've done the same if I was Nash, Dallas was basically saying they don't want him by drafting Harris and using him as trade bait for Shaq. Nash knew that if he stayed with Dallas, he might get traded to a team he didn't want to play for (such as the Lakers) so he wisely accepted a deal to play with the Suns and now Dallas gets screwed over by losing one of the best point guards in the NBA for nothing. Not only do they lose a great PG, but they lose another huge asset that could've helped them land Shaq. If I was a Dallas fan right now, I would be very pissed, the Mavericks just got screwed over hard and the Suns were able to capitalize on it.
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7/2/2004  9:35 AM
dallas got what they deserve. Nash knew he would be pawned and used as a tradebait. nice to see that backfire in their face.

nice nice nice. And for the suns, sorry but trading marbury to end nash is a thing I really don't understand. And for the guys who say marbury had relationship issues with amare, other would answer that amare has issues with everybody.

nelson's system makes players look better than they are (like Utah, sacramento...). Suns fans are due to a rude awakening.
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7/2/2004  9:55 AM
This Suns' move makes you wonder what their plans for Milos are. He's back behind two PG's again. The Suns have a starting SG as well. Hmmmm...
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7/2/2004  10:03 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Did everyone forget that Penny was on a max deal?
with only two seasons left (which means one year, really because an expiring contract is easy to move). That's entirely different from overpaying a player with a five year max contract for a player

Yeah pretty silly.

They basically traded Marbs and Penny for Nash, Lampe, Ward, Eisley, Milos.....that is really dumb....regardless if they though Marbs was a charecter issue.

Nash still is the better fit. Pheonix could use his jumpshot and his speed in the open blah blah blah.....I said that already.
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7/2/2004  10:08 AM
Phoenix is gonna realize how bad this signing was about 3 years from now when Nash is not contributing as much as he should be for that contract. Its gonna be like Penny all over again for them. As I said before, the Mavericks simply got what they deserved. They got screwed over hard, this year's team is no where as good as last year's team that got knocked out in the first round. They have lost Jamison and Nash for basically Harris, Stack, and Laettner. The thing that hurts them the most however, is that they just lose a huge asset in Nash and I really don't see how they can land Shaq now w/o including Dirk. Dallas is in a very interesting situation right now.
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7/3/2004  11:46 AM
in 2 years when Nash has slowed up, and they are looking to get out from the 40Million still owed him, we can send back Penny's expiring contract at the deadline so they can start rebuilding!
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