B If we use logic to dictate this--what more do we need to see of him? What value does he bring here?

C I don't like that we have atleast TRIED to bring up 2 frontcourt players/rim protectors to get a look. We have 0 frontcourt players signed--wouldnt it behoove the Knicks to take a look at more? Are we satisfied with what we have here?

D Why didnt we give another PG a chance---we are ALSO light on PG. Im all for giving Larkin a chance but we did not make good use of D league PG hopefuls. As far as I can see we have ONLY 1 PG signed and I doubt he ever plays 1 more game again with the KNicks?

We had many games to rotate 2-3 guys in and off the roster to take a look in an NBA setting but we chose not to. Guys like Acy and Wear couldve been waived and we couldve used those two spots to rotate 10 day contracts. ??

It's a good question....What do you do with Bargs, who at times can be a 20 pt scorer. I think he has value, and I would use his value in a future trade. I see players like stocks. Why through away stocks, when you can trade for different stocks at the same price. Sign and trade him to another team (if that's possible)...Instead of letting him walk for free....

blkexec wrote:Looks like Bargs is our most consistent big man. It's a tough situation to be in, since we have so many holes to fill, but we are also going through a cultural change. And keeping Bargs reminds us of our negative past, but do we have enough talent to cut our most consistent big? The question I want Phil to answer is if he's willing to match any offer, or just stick to his own offer, which most likely will be lower than others. Is he going to allow the market to set his value, or provide an early offer now, and risk out bidding ourselves? Something we are known to do....

It's a good question....What do you do with Bargs, who at times can be a 20 pt scorer. I think he has value, and I would use his value in a future trade. I see players like stocks. Why through away stocks, when you can trade for different stocks at the same price. Sign and trade him to another team (if that's possible)...Instead of letting him walk for free....

newyorker4ever wrote:

Panos wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:Never was a fan of him or the trade. I understand he has played well the last 20 games of the seasn but he is too injury prone to offer anything more than a vet minimum conract. Id let him go

Agreed. Bargs is super soft. How is it that this is his first stretch of decent ball in the whole time he has been here? Coincidence? He wants to get paid. Worse than a contract year. He's having a contract month. A step above Jerome James. I pass.

This isn't his first stretch of decent ball since he's been with the Knicks. He produced in points whenever he was healthy for us. He played just as good as he's been playing recently for us last year when he was healthy. If we can get him cheap then he's definitely worth having but i wouldn't go out of the way to try and beat other teams offers. His one on one defense isn't that bad but his team defense and help defense is pretty bad.

I agree if the Knicks can get him on the cheap. Something like 5-8 million per year.

Phil is going to have to focus on the top of the rotation. The draft pick is going to be key to what we do in Free Agency IMO. I expect that Jose will be stretched in order to regain some of that cap space. It's unfortunate but I see no reason to bring him back. That would give us another $4 mil in cap space and pretty much cover Shved's qualifying offer. At that point it's really going to be about the approach Phil takes in Free Agency. Aside from our draft pick none of our young guys are going to be cost prohibitive.

1.   Melo          $22,875,000
2.   Shved         $3,998,408
3.   Draft Pick?   $4,753,000 - $3,443,100
4.   Free Agent?
5.   Free Agent?
6.   Free Agent?
7.   Thanasis      $845,059
8.   Galloway      $845,059
9.   Hardaway      $1,304,520
10.  Early         $845,059
11.  Ledo?         $845,059
12.  Thomas        $1,185,784
13.  Amundson      $1,499,187

WaltLongmire wrote:Cost and durability issues have to be considered...

but he seems like the perfect fit for this offense.

Will be take a minimal amount of $$ to play in a system that clearly fits his skill set?

The catch22 is that the more he shows his value to the Knicks, the more his value to other teams increases, and there is no way that I would enter into any kind of bidding war for him if I'm the Knicks.

Keep if cheap...walk away if he wants too much pay.

yeah, this is where I am. He's obviously an off-the-bench guy for low cost.