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FireWoodson
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4/3/2015  5:39 PM
Everything this season turned out exactly the way it should've....

You people at this site seem to all have this outlook. Well, let me help you out with something --- you are all f...ing ridiculous! An entire season of Knick basketball is completely lost and you happily look to next season.

Don't you look forward to b-ball season? Well, are you happy that this entire season was turned into the worst season of b-ball Knick fans have ever witnessed? Oh, but things turned out exactly the way they should. Under cap, top pick. You people throw out an entire year of your team and live on stupid hope and illusion that in five years we will be winning a Championship.

An entire season wasted! I wanted Shump and JR for this season. And Tyson and Amare. We lose with them, hell, at least we fielded something that was an NBA team. I went to Westchester to watch the D-League team. I could have saved money on gas and just went to the Garden. We were given sh!t this year and some of you just ate it up and thanked Phil for serving it to you. Boy, you are so easy to please.

"Hey, folks, I'll give you a 14 win season, I'll give you D-league and ten day guys who no one knows, I'll give you a coach who never coached a game in his life, I'll trade award winning players and bring in Stymie, Thor, and the most unknown and worst player Duke ever had, and to top it all off I'll tell you this is the plan, it's all working out."

Yup, Phil served you dog sh!t and you smiled and ask for seconds. At least I spit my serving out. Fuck this season and f..k next season. We will be worse!
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4/3/2015  5:44 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/3/2015  5:45 PM
FireWoodson wrote:
Everything this season turned out exactly the way it should've....

You people at this site seem to all have this outlook. Well, let me help you out with something --- you are all f...ing ridiculous! An entire season of Knick basketball is completely lost and you happily look to next season.

Don't you look forward to b-ball season? Well, are you happy that this entire season was turned into the worst season of b-ball Knick fans have ever witnessed? Oh, but things turned out exactly the way they should. Under cap, top pick. You people throw out an entire year of your team and live on stupid hope and illusion that in five years we will be winning a Championship.

An entire season wasted! I wanted Shump and JR for this season. And Tyson and Amare. We lose with them, hell, at least we fielded something that was an NBA team. I went to Westchester to watch the D-League team. I could have saved money on gas and just went to the Garden. We were given sh!t this year and some of you just ate it up and thanked Phil for serving it to you. Boy, you are so easy to please.

"Hey, folks, I'll give you a 14 win season, I'll give you D-league and ten day guys who no one knows, I'll give you a coach who never coached a game in his life, I'll trade award winning players and bring in Stymie, Thor, and the most unknown and worst player Duke ever had, and to top it all off I'll tell you this is the plan, it's all working out."

Yup, Phil served you dog sh!t and you smiled and ask for seconds. At least I spit my serving out. Fuck this season and f..k next season. We will be worse!

They're are people here who will be thrilled as long as we win at least 0 games, will always think the team is headed in the right direction, and will love every decision the team's GM makes. They can be pests but you have to get used to it.
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4/3/2015  5:45 PM
The team had to bottom out. We needed a high pick. CA didnt play half the year--too many guys like Dalembart Calderon Jason Smith and Bargnani did not work out. The guys we had Shumpert and J R Smith werent fits here. Phil is dead on--this is the best case scenario. Guys like Magic Johnson and Rick Pitino all said this is best for the Knicks.
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4/3/2015  5:47 PM
Yep, we are just not ready for the truth. We cannot handle the truth. Why must you be so cruel man. . .If only you were in charge of the Knicks, ohhhh what coulda been. You sure would have put this ship onto the right course !!!
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4/3/2015  5:58 PM
We were headed for major change this summer regardless but now because Phil flushed the team we also have a chance at a high pick. Rather than just try to patch up the roster in an effort to try and make the playoffs this route was the only logical way to go. No one is happy about another wasted season. Been waiting my entire life for a title and i'm approaching my 50th birthday soon. That's a long time to wait for a title.

The reason for optimism is purely based on the fact that we have a chance at a high pick that could change the teams fortunes for years and the cap space to bring in good players. After all we just went thru that's reason for some optimism. We're taking a different path this time. Don't you think it's a big deal to have a legit chance at the #1 overall pick for a change? Then on top of that to also have cap space? We'll be looking at a nearly completely different team next year.
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4/3/2015  5:59 PM
You still miss the point:

An entire season was completely thrown out!

Do you throw out an entire year of your life? Do you not wash and shower for an entire year? Do you not hang with family and friends for an entire year? Of course not. No one does away with good things for an entire year. No one just wastes an entire year! No one except Knick management. An entire year of basketball was thrown away and we are told that's a good thing.

Hey, I look forward to my season of Knicks. To have that entire season just ripped from me was wrong.
I don't care about next year. This 2014/15 season should have mattered, no? As I said, we lose with Shump and Chandler and Amare and Pablo, I could deal with that...that's sports. But to see night after night Barry Larkin's kid, and Stymie, and Lance "Believe It Or Not I Went To Duke" Thomas...man, you can not do that to a fan base.
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4/3/2015  6:03 PM
FireWoodson wrote:You still miss the point:

An entire season was completely thrown out!

Do you throw out an entire year of your life? Do you not wash and shower for an entire year? Do you not hang with family and friends for an entire year? Of course not. No one does away with good things for an entire year. No one just wastes an entire year! No one except Knick management. An entire year of basketball was thrown away and we are told that's a good thing.

Hey, I look forward to my season of Knicks. To have that entire season just ripped from me was wrong.
I don't care about next year. This 2014/15 season should have mattered, no? As I said, we lose with Shump and Chandler and Amare and Pablo, I could deal with that...that's sports. But to see night after night Barry Larkin's kid, and Stymie, and Lance "Believe It Or Not I Went To Duke" Thomas...man, you can not do that to a fan base.


It wasnt the plan, but the top pick is part of the results of the season. Not exactly sure what you were expecting, most of us knew the season would be bad....just not this bad early on especially.
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4/3/2015  6:04 PM
nixluva wrote:1. cap space to bring in good players.

2. a legit chance at the #1 overall pick

Reality check:

1. cap space to bring in who? Greg Monroe. That's who. The Gasols and Durants are not coming here this year or next. Wow, we got rid of Shump and JR and Chandler, we cleared cap space to get Greg Monroe. Raise the ticket prices.

2. this year's #1 pick would be a #12 any other year. There is no #1 pick out there this year that is going to change the fortunes of a team.
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4/3/2015  6:05 PM
FireWoodson wrote:You still miss the point:

An entire season was completely thrown out!

Do you throw out an entire year of your life? Do you not wash and shower for an entire year? Do you not hang with family and friends for an entire year? Of course not. No one does away with good things for an entire year. No one just wastes an entire year! No one except Knick management. An entire year of basketball was thrown away and we are told that's a good thing.

Hey, I look forward to my season of Knicks. To have that entire season just ripped from me was wrong.
I don't care about next year. This 2014/15 season should have mattered, no? As I said, we lose with Shump and Chandler and Amare and Pablo, I could deal with that...that's sports. But to see night after night Barry Larkin's kid, and Stymie, and Lance "Believe It Or Not I Went To Duke" Thomas...man, you can not do that to a fan base.


Yes you do! When it's the only logical way to try and build a title contender then you must sacrifice a season. If we come out of the summer with a new franchise player and a bunch of really good Free Agents you won't even remember this season.
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4/3/2015  6:08 PM
nixluva wrote:
FireWoodson wrote:You still miss the point:

An entire season was completely thrown out!

Do you throw out an entire year of your life? Do you not wash and shower for an entire year? Do you not hang with family and friends for an entire year? Of course not. No one does away with good things for an entire year. No one just wastes an entire year! No one except Knick management. An entire year of basketball was thrown away and we are told that's a good thing.

Hey, I look forward to my season of Knicks. To have that entire season just ripped from me was wrong.
I don't care about next year. This 2014/15 season should have mattered, no? As I said, we lose with Shump and Chandler and Amare and Pablo, I could deal with that...that's sports. But to see night after night Barry Larkin's kid, and Stymie, and Lance "Believe It Or Not I Went To Duke" Thomas...man, you can not do that to a fan base.


Yes you do! When it's the only logical way...

This explains so much
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4/3/2015  6:09 PM
FireWoodson wrote:
nixluva wrote:1. cap space to bring in good players.

2. a legit chance at the #1 overall pick

Reality check:

1. cap space to bring in who? Greg Monroe. That's who. The Gasols and Durants are not coming here this year or next. Wow, we got rid of Shump and JR and Chandler, we cleared cap space to get Greg Monroe. Raise the ticket prices.

2. this year's #1 pick would be a #12 any other year. There is no #1 pick out there this year that is going to change the fortunes of a team.


I've gone thru this experiment with others and it hasn't changed the facts. The Hawks added Korver and the next year Millsap, Carroll and Schroder. Those 4 along with Teague and Hereford are the top 6 rotation players for the Hawks. Those aren't sexy names but they fit together in such a way that they are very successful. Don't assume that just cuz you don't like the guys in Free Agency that they won't significantly improve the team. This is the NBA and it really doesn't take as much as it might seem to put a good team together. The Hawks added 4 players to their core of Teague and Horford and they carry the bulk of the load for that team. This doesn't mean we'll be great next season but it should be a very good start on the process of remaking this team.
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4/3/2015  6:18 PM
nixluva wrote:The Hawks aren't sexy names but they fit together in such a way that they are very successful...

I am not looking for the sexy names. Your example of Atlanta is spot on. But you are missing another point. Atlanta was a playoff team last year, not a 14 win team. It didn't take them much to get to where they are now.

On the other hand, we SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We have lost 61 games!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is going to take a core of guys like Atlanta has, plus the sexy big name free agents, plus a franchise changing young draft pick, plus a veteran coach to move us away from a 14 win season. We need soooooo much. You think that's all going to happen by October?

We are well f..cked for next year and the next year. Three seasons of sad basketball in the best city on Earth. We deserve better.
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Bonn1997 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
FireWoodson wrote:You still miss the point:

An entire season was completely thrown out!

Do you throw out an entire year of your life? Do you not wash and shower for an entire year? Do you not hang with family and friends for an entire year? Of course not. No one does away with good things for an entire year. No one just wastes an entire year! No one except Knick management. An entire year of basketball was thrown away and we are told that's a good thing.

Hey, I look forward to my season of Knicks. To have that entire season just ripped from me was wrong.
I don't care about next year. This 2014/15 season should have mattered, no? As I said, we lose with Shump and Chandler and Amare and Pablo, I could deal with that...that's sports. But to see night after night Barry Larkin's kid, and Stymie, and Lance "Believe It Or Not I Went To Duke" Thomas...man, you can not do that to a fan base.


Yes you do! When it's the only logical way...

This explains so much

It was the logical thing to do and i'm glad that Phil decided to start over. I was hopeful that the team would perform better but since things fell apart it only made sense to take advantage of that circumstance and clean out the roster. Now it turns out that we are in the running for a top pick so that's a good thing to come out of a bad situation.
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4/3/2015  6:27 PM
nixluva wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
FireWoodson wrote:You still miss the point:

An entire season was completely thrown out!

Do you throw out an entire year of your life? Do you not wash and shower for an entire year? Do you not hang with family and friends for an entire year? Of course not. No one does away with good things for an entire year. No one just wastes an entire year! No one except Knick management. An entire year of basketball was thrown away and we are told that's a good thing.

Hey, I look forward to my season of Knicks. To have that entire season just ripped from me was wrong.
I don't care about next year. This 2014/15 season should have mattered, no? As I said, we lose with Shump and Chandler and Amare and Pablo, I could deal with that...that's sports. But to see night after night Barry Larkin's kid, and Stymie, and Lance "Believe It Or Not I Went To Duke" Thomas...man, you can not do that to a fan base.


Yes you do! When it's the only logical way...

This explains so much

It was the logical thing to do and i'm glad that Phil decided to start over. I was hopeful that the team would perform better but since things fell apart it only made sense to take advantage of that circumstance and clean out the roster. Now it turns out that we are in the running for a top pick so that's a good thing to come out of a bad situation.

Phil did not have much choice here ...

You don't just place your head under a trough on purpose and say that I wanted the crap to clean my hair

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/3/2015  6:29 PM
FireWoodson wrote:
nixluva wrote:The Hawks aren't sexy names but they fit together in such a way that they are very successful...

I am not looking for the sexy names. Your example of Atlanta is spot on. But you are missing another point. Atlanta was a playoff team last year, not a 14 win team. It didn't take them much to get to where they are now.

On the other hand, we SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We have lost 61 games!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is going to take a core of guys like Atlanta has, plus the sexy big name free agents, plus a franchise changing young draft pick, plus a veteran coach to move us away from a 14 win season. We need soooooo much. You think that's all going to happen by October?

We are well f..cked for next year and the next year. Three seasons of sad basketball in the best city on Earth. We deserve better.

You're overstating the situation IMO. We need a better top 6-7 rotation and it's very possible that we can achieve that this summer. Melo, Draft Pick, 3 quality free agents and possibly Shved would be a good start on a better rotation. We already have some young prospects who should be able to contribute next year. The rebuild is a process that has already started.
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4/3/2015  6:55 PM
I gotta give you credit. Never thought I's see a post titled "I'm sick of optomistic fans" usually it's the opposite from the other camp lol
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4/3/2015  7:07 PM
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
FireWoodson wrote:You still miss the point:

An entire season was completely thrown out!

Do you throw out an entire year of your life? Do you not wash and shower for an entire year? Do you not hang with family and friends for an entire year? Of course not. No one does away with good things for an entire year. No one just wastes an entire year! No one except Knick management. An entire year of basketball was thrown away and we are told that's a good thing.

Hey, I look forward to my season of Knicks. To have that entire season just ripped from me was wrong.
I don't care about next year. This 2014/15 season should have mattered, no? As I said, we lose with Shump and Chandler and Amare and Pablo, I could deal with that...that's sports. But to see night after night Barry Larkin's kid, and Stymie, and Lance "Believe It Or Not I Went To Duke" Thomas...man, you can not do that to a fan base.


Yes you do! When it's the only logical way...

This explains so much

It was the logical thing to do and i'm glad that Phil decided to start over. I was hopeful that the team would perform better but since things fell apart it only made sense to take advantage of that circumstance and clean out the roster. Now it turns out that we are in the running for a top pick so that's a good thing to come out of a bad situation.

Phil did not have much choice here ...

You don't just place your head under a trough on purpose and say that I wanted the crap to clean my hair

In the past the Knicks would have made a horrible trade to chase the 8th seed. Once it as clear that this group wasn't going to do much moving on was the right thing to do.

I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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4/3/2015  7:12 PM
The feeling is mutual
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How do you suggest we add talent and top players? You say we can't land the big guns via free agency (correct) so that only leaves the draft, but you think that's useless too.
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4/3/2015  7:16 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
FireWoodson wrote:You still miss the point:

An entire season was completely thrown out!

Do you throw out an entire year of your life? Do you not wash and shower for an entire year? Do you not hang with family and friends for an entire year? Of course not. No one does away with good things for an entire year. No one just wastes an entire year! No one except Knick management. An entire year of basketball was thrown away and we are told that's a good thing.

Hey, I look forward to my season of Knicks. To have that entire season just ripped from me was wrong.
I don't care about next year. This 2014/15 season should have mattered, no? As I said, we lose with Shump and Chandler and Amare and Pablo, I could deal with that...that's sports. But to see night after night Barry Larkin's kid, and Stymie, and Lance "Believe It Or Not I Went To Duke" Thomas...man, you can not do that to a fan base.


Yes you do! When it's the only logical way...

This explains so much

It was the logical thing to do and i'm glad that Phil decided to start over. I was hopeful that the team would perform better but since things fell apart it only made sense to take advantage of that circumstance and clean out the roster. Now it turns out that we are in the running for a top pick so that's a good thing to come out of a bad situation.

Phil did not have much choice here ...

You don't just place your head under a trough on purpose and say that I wanted the crap to clean my hair

In the past the Knicks would have made a horrible trade to chase the 8th seed. Once it as clear that this group wasn't going to do much moving on was the right thing to do.


Was there ever a past situation like this - where we were quickly so far out of the playoff race?
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