He basically called Towns a 5 when hes a 4? and saw him once?

He said we need a big BUTT C like Monroe? HHM dude Phil never had a player like Monroe--hmm ever. He cant shoot the mid range doesnt show up every game did not play well with his teammates and did not help facilitate wins. Actually is this the poster "Triple Threat" the same guy who said just to draft the big black man" it does sound like it. He came on in the last year and makes generalizations without even watching the players play.

I think we have a match folks Triple Threat=Charely Rosen.. No wonder why 3/4 of your stuff sounded absurd. Boy the whole crew posts here and they all sound less than appealing in terms of putting this ship back together to be honest. So I cant really ask Charlie his opinion past Towns--so wht does he have to offer us other than Greg Monroe's fat arse?

Hey Charlie--can you ask Phil WTF he is doing with the current roster and why he traded for the WORST defender in the NBA? I dont see any philosophy other than take the money and run!!!

nixluva wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:He hasnt seen Okafor all year????

He basically called Towns a 5 when hes a 4? and saw him once?

He said we need a big BUTT C like Monroe? HHM dude Phil never had a player like Monroe--hmm ever. He cant shoot the mid range doesnt show up every game did not play well with his teammates and did not help facilitate wins. Actually is this the poster "Triple Threat" the same guy who said just to draft the big black man" it does sound like it. He came on in the last year and makes generalizations without even watching the players play.

I think we have a match folks Triple Threat=Charely Rosen.. No wonder why 3/4 of your stuff sounded absurd. Boy the whole crew posts here and they all sound less than appealing in terms of putting this ship back together to be honest. So I cant really ask Charlie his opinion past Towns--so wht does he have to offer us other than Greg Monroe's fat arse?

Hey Charlie--can you ask Phil WTF he is doing with the current roster and why he traded for the WORST defender in the NBA? I dont see any philosophy other than take the money and run!!!

Why did Rosen's opinion bother you so much? He's a long time friend of Phil, once was an assistant coach with Phil and he's a writer. He's just offering up his take on the kind of big he thinks would work in the Triangle as a post option. Shaq was that kind of player as was Bynum. It's not a stretch to see Monroe in a similar role. I think that's all he's basically saying. Towns is a little lite in the shorts but that doesn't mean he can't be effective in his own way in the NBA. OK4 has the lower body you want to see in a low post big. None of this is really earth shattering commentary. Rosen isn't in the front office. He's just giving his opinion which is worth nothing in the overall scheme of things.

Charles Elliot "Charley" Rosen[1] (born January 18, 1941)[1] is an American author and former basketball coach. From 1983–1986, he was an assistant to Phil Jackson[2] with the Albany Patroons of the Continental Basketball Association (CBA).

He also served as head coach of the Patroons, as well as the CBA's Rockford Lightning, Oklahoma City Cavalry and Savannah Spirits.
The 6-foot-8 Rosen played college basketball at Hunter College in New York City for three seasons (1959–1962), setting school records for both scoring and rebounding, and earning most valuable player honors each season.[1] After college, he played for Scranton and Camden in the old Eastern Basketball League and taught English at Hofstra University on Long Island.

He also served as head coach of the women's basketball team at the State University of New York at New Paltz, a four-year college located between Albany and New York City, and was men's head coach at Bard College during the 1979–80 season, which he chronicled in the book Players and Pretenders.

A native of The Bronx, N.Y., Rosen is the author of 16 books about basketball, including The First Tip Off, The House of Moses All-Stars, Barney Polan's Game, No Blood, No Foul, More Than a Game, The Pivotal Season, and The Wizard of Odds.

He is currently a FOXSports.com NBA analyst and writer.[3] He is known for his in-depth analysis and caustic views.

Wow one helluva an analysts if he hasnt see Okafor play 1 time despite the fact we are in the lottery all year. Monroe--who exactly does he emulate from the Bulls or Lakers--Shaq?? God no. Horace Grant God No? Then who ? These guys Phil Jackson and Charely Rosen dont know sht about putting a basketball team together.

WaltLongmire wrote:

“The whole secret lies in confusing the enemy, so that he cannot fathom our real intent.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Before we go find pitchforks and light the torches, think about the possibility that Rosen might be a proxy for Jackson, and his sole purpose is to sow confusion regarding who the Knicks are really interested in taking in the draft.

Can't hurt...can only help. Maybe you get some draft night offers thrown our way from other teams who think we want someone they're in love with.

I'm choosing to think that this is all part of some master plot designed to deceive.

nixluva wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

nixluva wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:He hasnt seen Okafor all year????

He basically called Towns a 5 when hes a 4? and saw him once?

He said we need a big BUTT C like Monroe? HHM dude Phil never had a player like Monroe--hmm ever. He cant shoot the mid range doesnt show up every game did not play well with his teammates and did not help facilitate wins. Actually is this the poster "Triple Threat" the same guy who said just to draft the big black man" it does sound like it. He came on in the last year and makes generalizations without even watching the players play.

I think we have a match folks Triple Threat=Charely Rosen.. No wonder why 3/4 of your stuff sounded absurd. Boy the whole crew posts here and they all sound less than appealing in terms of putting this ship back together to be honest. So I cant really ask Charlie his opinion past Towns--so wht does he have to offer us other than Greg Monroe's fat arse?

Hey Charlie--can you ask Phil WTF he is doing with the current roster and why he traded for the WORST defender in the NBA? I dont see any philosophy other than take the money and run!!!

Why did Rosen's opinion bother you so much? He's a long time friend of Phil, once was an assistant coach with Phil and he's a writer. He's just offering up his take on the kind of big he thinks would work in the Triangle as a post option. Shaq was that kind of player as was Bynum. It's not a stretch to see Monroe in a similar role. I think that's all he's basically saying. Towns is a little lite in the shorts but that doesn't mean he can't be effective in his own way in the NBA. OK4 has the lower body you want to see in a low post big. None of this is really earth shattering commentary. Rosen isn't in the front office. He's just giving his opinion which is worth nothing in the overall scheme of things.

Charles Elliot "Charley" Rosen[1] (born January 18, 1941)[1] is an American author and former basketball coach. From 1983–1986, he was an assistant to Phil Jackson[2] with the Albany Patroons of the Continental Basketball Association (CBA).

He also served as head coach of the Patroons, as well as the CBA's Rockford Lightning, Oklahoma City Cavalry and Savannah Spirits.
The 6-foot-8 Rosen played college basketball at Hunter College in New York City for three seasons (1959–1962), setting school records for both scoring and rebounding, and earning most valuable player honors each season.[1] After college, he played for Scranton and Camden in the old Eastern Basketball League and taught English at Hofstra University on Long Island.

He also served as head coach of the women's basketball team at the State University of New York at New Paltz, a four-year college located between Albany and New York City, and was men's head coach at Bard College during the 1979–80 season, which he chronicled in the book Players and Pretenders.

A native of The Bronx, N.Y., Rosen is the author of 16 books about basketball, including The First Tip Off, The House of Moses All-Stars, Barney Polan's Game, No Blood, No Foul, More Than a Game, The Pivotal Season, and The Wizard of Odds.

He is currently a FOXSports.com NBA analyst and writer.[3] He is known for his in-depth analysis and caustic views.

Wow one helluva an analysts if he hasnt see Okafor play 1 time despite the fact we are in the lottery all year. Monroe--who exactly does he emulate from the Bulls or Lakers--Shaq?? God no. Horace Grant God No? Then who ? These guys Phil Jackson and Charely Rosen dont know sht about putting a basketball team together.

Perhaps you might consider that this is a man in Phil's confidence. If Phil is dealing with the guy he might know a little something. I just don't think we have a fan base that believes in the Knowledge Phil has nor his inner circle. There seems to be a virus of distrust and disrespect for anything Phil around here. These are men who have seen it all and actually have done it on different levels. I wouldn't assume that they're clowns like the media who've mostly never done anything of note in Basketball. Basketball has been these mens lives for longer than some of us have been alive. Perhaps they know a little something.

Ah let him have his fun--I don't care.

WaltLongmire wrote:

“The whole secret lies in confusing the enemy, so that he cannot fathom our real intent.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Before we go find pitchforks and light the torches, think about the possibility that Rosen might be a proxy for Jackson, and his sole purpose is to sow confusion regarding who the Knicks are really interested in taking in the draft.

Can't hurt...can only help. Maybe you get some draft night offers thrown our way from other teams who think we want someone they're in love with.

I'm choosing to think that this is all part of some master plot designed to deceive.

I think that your right.

This KGB 80's tactic is so triangular

WaltLongmire wrote:Based on the serious discussion folks are having here, should the draft combine add another measurement for prospect evaluations...the "cheeks check?"

Yeah this goes down as one of the all time stupidest remarks I have ever heard about evaluating a basketball player. This kind of went unnoticed but Im sure the media would get a kick out of it--Im sure John Calipari would laugh his arse off. Karl Towns arse is too small.. Maybe Charlie should be allowed in with Karl the next time he has to go with a tape measure. A 6-11 253 pound 18 year old man with a small arse that we couldnt draft because Greg Monroe has a bigger one. Maybe he should put down the bong.