- Seth Rosenthal

http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/3/26/8294875/i-want-the-knicks-to-use-their-draft-pick-no-matter-what

misterearl wrote:"A big part of it is that I want a career Knick. As a fan - someone who wants so badly to love this team -- I covet an organic star more than anything. I've been using that word, "organic," for years on P&T about everyone from Iman Shumpert and Danilo Gallinari to Toney Douglas and Landry Fields. I've long dreamed of the Knicks actually developing a centerpiece - finding a gem, then polishing it into a crown jewel instead of pawning it off for something else prefabricated."

- Seth Rosenthal

http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/3/26/8294875/i-want-the-knicks-to-use-their-draft-pick-no-matter-what

I read the article--95% of Knick fans want nothing to do with trading this pick. I think management better listen to the fans this time--or they will soon find empty seats.

IF Sterling can do it, so can Dolan!!!

StraightShot wrote:The Knicks will do everything they can to bring in new blood, with appropriate consideration to opportunities involving more experienced players to put the kind of team on the floor that New Yorkers demand.

StraightShot wrote:The Knicks will do everything they can to bring in new blood, with appropriate consideration to opportunities involving more experienced players to put the kind of team on the floor that New Yorkers demand.

DrAlphaeus wrote:

Splat wrote:

StraightShot wrote:The Knicks will do everything they can to bring in new blood, with appropriate consideration to opportunities involving more experienced players to put the kind of team on the floor that New Yorkers demand.

I like the smothering defense. Sign her up for a 10-day!

Better shape than Ricky Ledo!

fishmike wrote:

StraightShot wrote:The Knicks will do everything they can to bring in new blood, with appropriate consideration to opportunities involving more experienced players to put the kind of team on the floor that New Yorkers demand.

oh god we are phucked

Wow. This is ostensibly straight from the horse's mouth. This is why I fear the draft.

nixluva wrote:There will be a mix of home grown talent and free agents. I don't see anything suggesting a deviation from this plan. People are making too much of this idea the Knicks will trade the pick. I haven't read a compelling deal that would provide more value than keeping the pick and adding free agents to form the new core. It's better cap wise as well.

I wouldn't try to discourage anyone from exhausting their concerns about it though. The history of this company shows it remains a possibility. Until the Knicks use that pick in the draft people will have justifiable concerns this org could do something wacko and trade it. History seeps into the brain and sends signals to the fingers to type about it.

Splat wrote:

nixluva wrote:There will be a mix of home grown talent and free agents. I don't see anything suggesting a deviation from this plan. People are making too much of this idea the Knicks will trade the pick. I haven't read a compelling deal that would provide more value than keeping the pick and adding free agents to form the new core. It's better cap wise as well.

I wouldn't try to discourage anyone from exhausting their concerns about it though. The history of this company shows it remains a possibility. Until the Knicks use that pick in the draft people will have justifiable concerns this org could do something wacko and trade it. History seeps into the brain and sends signals to the fingers to type about it.

I'd like to see a compelling deal that would justify passing up a chance at a player who could be a franchise piece for years. So far I haven't seen a deal worth doing. We have to remember that they would be drafting and presenting that player to the fanbase with all kinds of fan fair. This would be such a rare event of goodwill that I can't imagine selling off the future like that.

That player buys the franchise all kinds of time to build an eventual champion as opposed to being on a short leash with an injured Melo who may not even be ready to start the year.

nixluva wrote:

Splat wrote:

nixluva wrote:There will be a mix of home grown talent and free agents. I don't see anything suggesting a deviation from this plan. People are making too much of this idea the Knicks will trade the pick. I haven't read a compelling deal that would provide more value than keeping the pick and adding free agents to form the new core. It's better cap wise as well.

I wouldn't try to discourage anyone from exhausting their concerns about it though. The history of this company shows it remains a possibility. Until the Knicks use that pick in the draft people will have justifiable concerns this org could do something wacko and trade it. History seeps into the brain and sends signals to the fingers to type about it.

I'd like to see a compelling deal that would justify passing up a chance at a player who could be a franchise piece for years. So far I haven't seen a deal worth doing. We have to remember that they would be drafting and presenting that player to the fanbase with all kinds of fan fair. This would be such a rare event of goodwill that I can't imagine selling off the future like that.

That player buys the franchise all kinds of time to build an eventual champion as opposed to being on a short leash with an injured Melo who may not even be ready to start the year.

Well Im telling you that OKC is a vampire waiting for us to be stupid. There is NO WAY that OKC would trade Durant UNLESS hes hurt and thye feel it will be ongoing. They have too many players!!! Adams Mcgary Kanter Ibaka Jones Collison and Durant. Thats why I think we could stand still and get Kanter with a max contract. But IF OKC KNOWS that Durant is fckd and NO ONE will see him play basketball again before any trade--then how attractive is getting RID of Duarnt and bringing in a top 3 pick and knowing the Knicks it might be the 2018 pick as well. They could clear house on us--take away free agency--dump a """healthy""" Durant and that was sarcasm"""" on us. Of course there are doctors who will say he is quote healthy but you will NEVER KNOW until he plays the games---EXACT MFing things with Mcdyess--he played in just a few games end of season was "healthy" and then his knee blew up in our pre season. OKC doesnt have the structure to lose a Duarnt for nothing--they did not lose harden for nothing--and I dont see them losing any player for nothing--they are too fcking smart. We are the DUMBEST franchise in sports there is no doubt about it and w e have an owner PROVEN to gamble on injuries and names I mean proven--its all a sales job. This is etting up for another karate chop to the jib for kNicks fans but this time it will be a death blow. I think if it happens this time seriously vested fans will start truly bowing out.

BRIGGS wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Splat wrote:

nixluva wrote:There will be a mix of home grown talent and free agents. I don't see anything suggesting a deviation from this plan. People are making too much of this idea the Knicks will trade the pick. I haven't read a compelling deal that would provide more value than keeping the pick and adding free agents to form the new core. It's better cap wise as well.

I wouldn't try to discourage anyone from exhausting their concerns about it though. The history of this company shows it remains a possibility. Until the Knicks use that pick in the draft people will have justifiable concerns this org could do something wacko and trade it. History seeps into the brain and sends signals to the fingers to type about it.

I'd like to see a compelling deal that would justify passing up a chance at a player who could be a franchise piece for years. So far I haven't seen a deal worth doing. We have to remember that they would be drafting and presenting that player to the fanbase with all kinds of fan fair. This would be such a rare event of goodwill that I can't imagine selling off the future like that.

That player buys the franchise all kinds of time to build an eventual champion as opposed to being on a short leash with an injured Melo who may not even be ready to start the year.

Well Im telling you that OKC is a vampire waiting for us to be stupid. There is NO WAY that OKC would trade Durant UNLESS hes hurt and thye feel it will be ongoing. They have too many players!!! Adams Mcgary Kanter Ibaka Jones Collison and Durant. Thats why I think we could stand still and get Kanter with a max contract. But IF OKC KNOWS that Durant is fckd and NO ONE will see him play basketball again before any trade--then how attractive is getting RID of Duarnt and bringing in a top 3 pick and knowing the Knicks it might be the 2018 pick as well. They could clear house on us--take away free agency--dump a """healthy""" Durant and that was sarcasm"""" on us. Of course there are doctors who will say he is quote healthy but you will NEVER KNOW until he plays the games---EXACT MFing things with Mcdyess--he played in just a few games end of season was "healthy" and then his knee blew up in our pre season. OKC doesnt have the structure to lose a Duarnt for nothing--they did not lose harden for nothing--and I dont see them losing any player for nothing--they are too fcking smart. We are the DUMBEST franchise in sports there is no doubt about it and w e have an owner PROVEN to gamble on injuries and names I mean proven--its all a sales job. This is etting up for another karate chop to the jib for kNicks fans but this time it will be a death blow. I think if it happens this time seriously vested fans will start truly bowing out.

Phil has gone on record talking about this very scenario.

“You do need great players to win the championship, but having to always chase the best talent in free agency eventually becomes a mind-set of, well, the best talent wins as opposed to who plays the best team basketball — which is what San Antonio showed last season,” he said. “Their play was special, a team that really values passing, a system where they’re not just standing around, spacing out shooters. That’s also what Atlanta and a couple of other teams are showing this year.”

He added: “We’re not going to punch all the right buttons in the process of doing this. But we’re looking for multiple talents, drive, intelligence, guys that will play defense. We hope to develop a team, and there are a lot of agents out there looking to find a good spot for their players.”