Vmart wrote:It doesn't matter what they think. They don't manage anyone's pockets.

it matters that us fans are the only fat losers who think that we are pretty.

We may get a player to come here if we make another stupid Amare type move to make us relevant again.

mreinman wrote:

Vmart wrote:It doesn't matter what they think. They don't manage anyone's pockets.

it matters that us fans are the only fat losers who think that we are pretty.

We may get a player to come here if we make another stupid Amare type move to make us relevant again.

Amare will be a free agent again so we might get lucky twice

mreinman wrote:

Splat wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Vmart wrote:It doesn't matter what they think. They don't manage anyone's pockets.

it matters that us fans are the only fat losers who think that we are pretty.

We may get a player to come here if we make another stupid Amare type move to make us relevant again.

Amare will be a free agent again so we might get lucky twice

maybe he can ReRelevant us.

Is that like in Re-Animator where he dunks his own head?

You join a company because of the leadership and vision in place. You pick a team on ownership and fit. The Knicks have the worst ownership in the entire sport. No track record or history of winning. They are one of the NBA's worst teams over the past 15 years.

We have gone through multiple GM's, Coaches and turned over the roster over and over again. You have a coach that's unproven, a general manager that to date has executed absolutley nothing. He got buried in his first trade and didn't get get anything in his second.

So what's our pitch right now, we are going to put Phil in a room and let him talk about his championship rings? That works whne you're Pat Riley and have built the Knicks, made the heat a contender twice and are recruiting stars, but South Beach is a place guys want to live and they aren't getting crushed on taxes and in the media.

Here it is... We have Tim Hardaway junior a guy that can't defend and doesn't understand how to play the game. A veteran point guard that can't penetrate and will be on the roster next season. One of the best scorers in the league coming off a knee injury on the wrong side of 30. We have a top 3 draft selection coming in, major unknown, but you could get excited if you're a free agent to play with Okafur or Towns. You pitch NYC, didn't work last time, but that's what you got. Be a star, be the first to win a championship in 40 + years... Gasol do you want to leave a great team in a city you and your family grew up in? Kevin do you want to leave Lebron and Kyrie to be the man in NYC? Aldridge you have a great team in place with a dynamic young point guard. Maybe you peak his interest in being a major star, more endorsements, but you could just as easily go to the Lakers. Kobe off the cap you're the guy in LA.

I just don't see it either. Someone always takes the money, but we can't afford to have someone like Amare take the money or pick up an option only to amnesty the player. We are in a position right now if you miss on the player and on the pic, fans not taking the garbage they have been getting.

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CrushAlot wrote:Miller is right. The Knicks aren't going to get Gasol, Aldridge, or Love. Those guys are staying where they are. But guys will come and the Knicks may have to overpay. They just have to choose the right players.
On a side note, it is too bad that something can't be done to even the playing field with state income tax. It seems like it is more of a topic for nfl free agents but it is an issue in the nba as well.

CrushAlot wrote:Miller is right. The Knicks aren't going to get Gasol, Aldridge, or Love. Those guys are staying where they are. But guys will come and the Knicks may have to overpay. They just have to choose the right players.
On a side note, it is too bad that something can't be done to even the playing field with state income tax. It seems like it is more of a topic for nfl free agents but it is an issue in the nba as well.

I don't know about love or Aldridge why wouldn't they come... Love is having a terrible time in Cleveland and is perfect for the triangle. Aldridge is stuck in Portland Oregon getting zero recognition for his good play. I think both guys are hungry for the bigger city bigger spot light. We do have a star in Carmelo.. If we draft a ok4,towns,russell paired with Melo and say a love,milsap,or Aldridge..and go after some second tier FA we will contend in the east for sure

The Knicks are selling opportunity. We have an opportunity to build a championship contender here. Who wants to be a party of this? 15 years ago alot of these players were in junior high school. They shouldn't be thinking about what went on back then. This year is a clean slate. The ownership has taken a back seat to Phil...Fisher and Phil are on the same page. They will both be able to explain what they are trying to accomplish. Melo is on board with the change. We have money and we have a high pick. This is not the old knicks. The roster well be bare. Whoever comes will be apart of the next chapter of the ny Knicks. If enough good players come in and buy into the plan, they can be apart of the face of the future of the nba.

Fame.... you win a nba championship with the Knicks you live forever.

CrushAlot wrote:Miller is right. The Knicks aren't going to get Gasol, Aldridge, or Love. Those guys are staying where they are. But guys will come and the Knicks may have to overpay. They just have to choose the right players.
On a side note, it is too bad that something can't be done to even the playing field with state income tax. It seems like it is more of a topic for nfl free agents but it is an issue in the nba as well.

No way Aldridge or Gasoline leave, but Love wouldn't surprise me.

My issues are: it's nothing to do with the knicks- most free agents will stay with their teams because they like playing for those teams. Overpaying has always been the only shot at getting players to leave. Why make it a thing about the knicks? We're not the centre of the universe.

Also Phil is going to get blasted, but I don't see how it's his fault- most of the free agents are off the menu because they're happy where they are and can get payed more or are restricted- what's he supposed to do?