Knicks1969 wrote:I don't get it, the dude has not even completed a full season as the main man with the Knicks, but it appears that some around here already want to see the dude fired. In my opinion, it is pathetic what some in the media is doing. It seems as if they want for the Knicks to be an elite team right away, without taking into account how bad of a roster Phil inherited.

The dude is being killed for his desire to have the Knicks run the triangle system. Give the dude at least two years before throwing him out of the door.

throwing him out?? C'mon. He ain't goin no where and nobody wants to run him out of town.

what we would like to see is flexibility in his plan.

He is a guy that does things his own way and may ignore many years of research and advancement.

If he succeeds with the knicks doing it "his" way, he is a genius.

If he fails, he may coming out looking pretty bad since it had to be his (non conventional) way.

The crash from such heights was inevitable. NYC tabloid media doing what it does best. Dolan can't be the fall guy anymore because it's Phil's show now. Phil's a big boy and he can take it. He deserves some of it in my opinion. Blame the media's Follow the Leader/Pile On tendencies.

mreinman wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:I remember a lot of people here declaring with complete confidence the day Phil signed on as one of the greatest days in franchise history, accompanying all sorts of speculations of the playoffs and how the Knicks were now back and now relevant.

The crash from such heights was inevitable. NYC tabloid media doing what it does best. Dolan can't be the fall guy anymore because it's Phil's show now. Phil's a big boy and he can take it. He deserves some of it in my opinion. Blame the media's Follow the Leader/Pile On tendencies.

count me as one of those idiots

ESPN touting Phil as the latest in the IT False Prophet string. Incredible.
Never thought ESPN would be considered tabloid media, but it is what it is when it comes to the Knicks.

jrodmc wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:When even you yourself admit what you've done is failed, it's safe to say it's obvious enough that the media will be on your case. You don't get away in NY with turning a .500 team into a .200 team. He helped lower the bar a lot though. If he merely brings us back to .500 next year, he'll probably be getting praise.

Record aside, the bar can get any lower than IT set it?

Don't matter what any of us say around here, or what the media does. Only thing that matters is not even what Phil says, but what he does!!!!!
Whats he doing? Seems like he tried to get his team to play. For the myriad of reasons we have beat to death, its been seen that was not possible. So you rebuild.
We don't plan vacations "Years in advance", we don't plan our meals years in advance, we don't plan to have sex years in advance, but we like our instant gradification and we like our entertainment to fulfil us.
So Knicks lose. Writers sell anger, so knicks lose and they fuel the anger. Writers win! Knicks Lose.
F500 laps this up like some porn actress pretending spunk tastes like ice cream.
Nobody, not even phil don't know how long it takes.
All I know I got my investment accounts and my career in line by making one decision at at time with a long focus on results. Phil didn't seen Tyson here a long time. So he traded him. If thats all some of you got, then I suggest you consider good players are better on really good teams. Its the NBA, Tyson is a good player. Mavs are pretty talented. He looks good. He should. How we think he'd look with Felton, JR, SHump etc. Not pretty.

Knicks are not going anywhere with or without him. Mozgov got traded for picks because he is younger, has a longer deal, better offensive player and the picks are not all they appear to be. Still a good deal, but Tyson was coveted by Cleveland last summer was he? We don't know if he would have been. Get over it.