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BRIGGS
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1/6/2015  1:20 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/6/2015  2:44 PM
First off the OKC are not going to match anything from this player now that they have committed 5+mm to Waiters next year. He's essentially done in OKC.

I don't see any teams paying much more than 9-10mm tops now. That also may drop the cost of other players

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BRIGGS wrote:First off the OKC are not going to match anything from this player now that they have committed 5+mm to Waiters next year. He's essentially done in OKC.

I don't see any teams paying much more than 7mm tops now. That also may drop the cost of other players

He won't get max. Probably never was. He will probably get it n the 9mil range.

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1/6/2015  1:25 PM
His market will be high for Payday

But maybe not so high for trade


Nothing really has changed in terms of his cash value

He's going to get $11-15mil/yr no matter what
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1/6/2015  1:41 PM
F500ONE wrote:His market will be high for Payday

But maybe not so high for trade


Nothing really has changed in terms of his cash value

He's going to get $11-15mil/yr no matter what

nope ... don't think he will

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/6/2015  1:41 PM
BRIGGS wrote:First off the OKC are not going to match anything from this player now that they have committed 5+mm to Waiters next year. He's essentially done in OKC.

I don't see any teams paying much more than 7mm tops now. That also may drop the cost of other players

yes ... teams are actually using metrics now and not their overrated EYES

nice to see.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/6/2015  1:43 PM
mreinman wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:First off the OKC are not going to match anything from this player now that they have committed 5+mm to Waiters next year. He's essentially done in OKC.

I don't see any teams paying much more than 7mm tops now. That also may drop the cost of other players

yes ... teams are actually using metrics now and not their overrated EYES

nice to see.


What metrics are OKC using?
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1/6/2015  1:48 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:First off the OKC are not going to match anything from this player now that they have committed 5+mm to Waiters next year. He's essentially done in OKC.

I don't see any teams paying much more than 7mm tops now. That also may drop the cost of other players

yes ... teams are actually using metrics now and not their overrated EYES

nice to see.


What metrics are OKC using?

we will find out by seeing how much they offer.

A guard who shoots 3's worse than Toney Douglass will probably be alarming for most clubs.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/6/2015  1:55 PM
If we are dumping the triangle then I'd get him.
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1/6/2015  1:55 PM
TPercy wrote:If we are dumping the triangle then I'd get him.

why?

for how much $?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/6/2015  1:56 PM
mreinman wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:First off the OKC are not going to match anything from this player now that they have committed 5+mm to Waiters next year. He's essentially done in OKC.

I don't see any teams paying much more than 7mm tops now. That also may drop the cost of other players

yes ... teams are actually using metrics now and not their overrated EYES

nice to see.


What metrics are OKC using?

we will find out by seeing how much they offer.

A guard who shoots 3's worse than Toney Douglass will probably be alarming for most clubs.

They just gave up a 1st for Waiters who shoots 3s worse than Toney Douglas. I do think this means that they will probably let Jackson go but regardless of teams using metrics their are always teams out there using the eye test.
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1/6/2015  1:57 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/6/2015  1:59 PM
mreinman wrote:
F500ONE wrote:His market will be high for Payday

But maybe not so high for trade


Nothing really has changed in terms of his cash value

He's going to get $11-15mil/yr no matter what

nope ... don't think he will


He will because the upper tier point guards make 30-40% more

And the metrics suggest the upper tier point guard % will continue to climb


He's a 2nd tier point guard you know how the metrics suggested

Kemba Walker to get 4yrs $48mil


When Jackson plays as a starter, which this will be 1a in his decision making process

His numbers suggest he's a double digit mil per yr salary maker
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F500ONE wrote:
mreinman wrote:
F500ONE wrote:His market will be high for Payday

But maybe not so high for trade


Nothing really has changed in terms of his cash value

He's going to get $11-15mil/yr no matter what

nope ... don't think he will


He will because the upper tier point guards make 30-40% more

And the metrics suggest the upper tier point guard % will continue to climb


He's a 2nd tier point guard you know how the metrics suggested

Kemba Walker to get 4yrs $48mil


When Jackson plays as a starter, which this will be 1a in his decision making process

His numbers suggest he's a double digit mil per yr salary maker

kemba's salary is terrible.

Lowry is making 12.

Will there be a dumb team that makes a dumb move? Perhaps.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
mreinman
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1/6/2015  2:02 PM
F500ONE wrote:
mreinman wrote:
F500ONE wrote:His market will be high for Payday

But maybe not so high for trade


Nothing really has changed in terms of his cash value

He's going to get $11-15mil/yr no matter what

nope ... don't think he will


He will because the upper tier point guards make 30-40% more

And the metrics suggest the upper tier point guard % will continue to climb


He's a 2nd tier point guard you know how the metrics suggested

Kemba Walker to get 4yrs $48mil


When Jackson plays as a starter, which this will be 1a in his decision making process

His numbers suggest he's a double digit mil per yr salary maker

and which "numbers" are those?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/6/2015  2:03 PM
mreinman wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
mreinman wrote:
F500ONE wrote:His market will be high for Payday

But maybe not so high for trade


Nothing really has changed in terms of his cash value

He's going to get $11-15mil/yr no matter what

nope ... don't think he will


He will because the upper tier point guards make 30-40% more

And the metrics suggest the upper tier point guard % will continue to climb


He's a 2nd tier point guard you know how the metrics suggested

Kemba Walker to get 4yrs $48mil


When Jackson plays as a starter, which this will be 1a in his decision making process

His numbers suggest he's a double digit mil per yr salary maker

kemba's salary is terrible.

Lowry is making 12.

Will there be a dumb team that makes a dumb move? Perhaps.

There always is 1 usually more and that's what the metrics also suggest

You know metrics apply to more than a vacuum debate over player statistics


I figured you'd be one smart enough to grasp this
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1/6/2015  2:04 PM
F500ONE wrote:
mreinman wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
mreinman wrote:
F500ONE wrote:His market will be high for Payday

But maybe not so high for trade


Nothing really has changed in terms of his cash value

He's going to get $11-15mil/yr no matter what

nope ... don't think he will


He will because the upper tier point guards make 30-40% more

And the metrics suggest the upper tier point guard % will continue to climb


He's a 2nd tier point guard you know how the metrics suggested

Kemba Walker to get 4yrs $48mil


When Jackson plays as a starter, which this will be 1a in his decision making process

His numbers suggest he's a double digit mil per yr salary maker

kemba's salary is terrible.

Lowry is making 12.

Will there be a dumb team that makes a dumb move? Perhaps.

There always is 1 usually more and that's what the metrics also suggest

You know metrics apply to more than a vacuum debate over player statistics


I figured you'd be one smart enough to grasp this

I am smart enough to know that what ever you believe, I probably believe the opposite

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/6/2015  2:06 PM
If OKC is out of the running to resign Jackson that could really put NY in a prime position. We have to think of the market in terms of teams that will actually be buyers! Not all teams will actually be buyers even if they have the cap space. Philly for example likely won't be looking to get in the top FA fight. Some teams already have PG's and won't be looking for a guy like Reggie Jackson or Brandon Knight. It looks like the competition will thin out if you take out teams that have PG's already. It might come down to only some of these teams competing with us.

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1/6/2015  2:09 PM
The is such a thing as defensive metrics too you know
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gunsnewing wrote:The is such a thing as defensive metrics too you know

yup and that is how we got stuck with shump until he was on life support

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/6/2015  2:20 PM
F500ONE wrote:
mreinman wrote:
F500ONE wrote:His market will be high for Payday

But maybe not so high for trade


Nothing really has changed in terms of his cash value

He's going to get $11-15mil/yr no matter what

nope ... don't think he will


He will because the upper tier point guards make 30-40% more

And the metrics suggest the upper tier point guard % will continue to climb


He's a 2nd tier point guard you know how the metrics suggested

Kemba Walker to get 4yrs $48mil


When Jackson plays as a starter, which this will be 1a in his decision making process

His numbers suggest he's a double digit mil per yr salary maker

There is a big difference between Jackson and Kemnba. Kemba was wanted by his own team. The guard that will get Kemba money with an inflation bump is your boy Knight.

Jackson proved as a starter he was not a capable shooter. He will have to prove his self. For all we know teams may see him as a Darren Collinson type. He was a backup that turned starter then backup then backup then starter.

What are other back ups not named Harden that got a big contract on poor shooting numbers.
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1/6/2015  2:22 PM
nixluva wrote:If OKC is out of the running to resign Jackson that could really put NY in a prime position. We have to think of the market in terms of teams that will actually be buyers! Not all teams will actually be buyers even if they have the cap space. Philly for example likely won't be looking to get in the top FA fight. Some teams already have PG's and won't be looking for a guy like Reggie Jackson or Brandon Knight. It looks like the competition will thin out if you take out teams that have PG's already. It might come down to only some of these teams competing with us.

Heat
Pacers
Spurs
Lakers
Pelicans
Magic

how much do you pay for jackson?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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