26-28 points 10 rebounds 4 assists 1.5 blocks 55%

Downside- 18-7-2 less than 1 block or injuries.

gunsnewing wrote:thats Duncan upside lol

Big men just don't avergae those kind of numbers anymore. Not even Ewing, Hakeem and Drob averaged those numbers

I don't see him putting up Karl Malone numbers but if at his peak he gives you Cousin's 20 & 10, as a big in todays game, you take it and run.

His upside is Karl malone

He surely is one of the more under rated BIGs right now in the league that is under rated
With Mahimi and Roy Hibbert getting a decent contract on the Pacer's, if we can steal him for about 2 - 3.5m on a multi year deal, he could be quite cost efficient

While drafting at least 1 BIG

Koufus, Cole Aldrich, Lavoy Allen could give us a nice rotation of cost efficient BIGS

2015 1st rounder/Lavoy Allen
Koufus/Cole Aldrich

As much as I would love to acquire Millsap, I just do not see him coming unless we offer him a contract at the max possible and no other team comes close
Depending on how Atlanta does this year in the playoffs and if Gasol is going to get offered a near max contract in Memphis (if not I believe The Spur's will give target Gasol and then Millsap, then resign Kawaii Leanard, possibly still resigning Duncan for a vet min contract for another year or 2 to help the Poppavich and the new Spur's transition easier...

nixluva wrote:

RonRon wrote:Wonder what deal Lavoy Allen would get, he is quite a mobile PF/C that has developed a nie 17 footer to go with his ability to run the floor as a big, rebound, block shots, steals, and play defense

He surely is one of the more under rated BIGs right now in the league that is under rated
With Mahimi and Roy Hibbert getting a decent contract on the Pacer's, if we can steal him for about 2 - 3.5m on a multi year deal, he could be quite cost efficient

While drafting at least 1 BIG

Koufus, Cole Aldrich, Lavoy Allen could give us a nice rotation of cost efficient BIGS

2015 1st rounder/Lavoy Allen
Koufus/Cole Aldrich

As much as I would love to acquire Millsap, I just do not see him coming unless we offer him a contract at the max possible and no other team comes close
Depending on how Atlanta does this year in the playoffs and if Gasol is going to get offered a near max contract in Memphis (if not I believe The Spur's will give target Gasol and then Millsap, then resign Kawaii Leanard, possibly still resigning Duncan for a vet min contract for another year or 2 to help the Poppavich and the new Spur's transition easier...

I agree with targeting hidden producers like Lavoy Allen. There are others who would produce at a good level with more minutes like Cole is showing.

Me too. Definitely with you guys on Allen. Nice player. 6'10"-ish, wide body, strong, excellent shooting touch in the mid-range--I think this guy could even make 3s if he started taking them regularly. Better, more-physical version of Jason Smith I'm thinking. I think this dude could be something close to Kurt Thomas with more minutes/touches/responsibility. Better on the glass than either Smith or Stoudemire... Definitely a guy to consider. I think if we were ever lucky enough to get a guy like Okafor or even Towns, you play either of those guys down low 10' and in, grab a guy like Allen or this JaMychal Green outta the DL who I find impressive (two cost-effective PF upgrades over Jason Smith and Stoudemire I'm thinking--I'd look to add both) to compliment the big C with some mid-range play and then have Melo setting up on the opposite side of the floor doing his thing, basically being a threat from anywhere--that could be a hell of a new frontcourt. It'd be up to Melo to make that work--no more excuses.

but if he doesn't defend and rebound then things won't be that much different than it is with Amare.

If Towns and/or Stein can give them 10pts and anchor the interior defense and rebounding the team will be much improved

BRIGGS wrote:Upside

26-28 points 10 rebounds 4 assists 1.5 blocks 55%

Downside- 18-7-2 less than 1 block or injuries.

So he's a hall of fame or borderline hall of famer?

codeunknown wrote:Towns is a mixed bag, you have to look at him closely. He has zero face up game, which mitigates his passing potential. He can't cover long distances as a help defender, although he's ok in the post. His value depends on the development of his jump shot. A strong 3 point shot in addition to his rebounding adds a lot of value to any lineup. Without it, he's ok and nothing more.

he has a very very smooth touch

mreinman wrote:

codeunknown wrote:Towns is a mixed bag, you have to look at him closely. He has zero face up game, which mitigates his passing potential. He can't cover long distances as a help defender, although he's ok in the post. His value depends on the development of his jump shot. A strong 3 point shot in addition to his rebounding adds a lot of value to any lineup. Without it, he's ok and nothing more.

he has a very very smooth touch

His shot doesn't have range or consistency. He clearly needs significant improvement and given his athletic limitations, his value added is strongly tied to it.

After that you have the most advanced post player for a freshmen that I can ever remember--I challenge anyone to find a post player in year 1 of college more advanced than okafor in the last 30 years. He holds the ball like a grapefruit and has unbelievable touch around the rim. It's hard to stop him as hes agile lengthy powerful and nimble. He can turn to either side use the backboard handle the ball and he will simply bully you. It will be funny watching pro 230 pound PF trying to defend a 273 pounder who has more agility and 40 pounds heavier. And that 270+ is not fat--hes nimble and in shape. You get much more space in the NBA to work on the block than you do in college. While hes not a great rebounder out of space--hes a quality rebounder who has upside in that area. He's already an advanced passer capable of all passes. When he hits the mid range he will have plenty of 35 point games in the NBA. No player in college is close to him hes far and way the best player. Whatever team who gets him--IF they buyild correctly around him--they have a franchise player--there is not 1 doubt in my mind--hes that good. Not Hakeem 4 block shot 14 rebound good--but more in the way of Karl Malone--now you need to find his Jon Stockton Mark eaton etc...