F500ONE wrote:nixluva wrote:F500ONE wrote:VCoug wrote:Very few players in the league can make that sort of a difference. Lebron, Durant, Chris Paul, Anthony Davis, Marc Gasol, Dwight Howard was but I'm not sure that he still is, and maybe Joakim Noah. We'd be better with Dragic, no doubt, but he's not the difference between us being one of the worst teams in the league and being decent. He probably improves our current team from 5 wins to 12 or so wins.
Being that the league got better overall I doubt he makes much a difference
Keep in mind he's been on Phx for 2yrs, they didn't have Bledsoe
For 1/3 of season last yr and won 48gms
Came back this yr with team in tact relatively healthy
They are on pace to win 43gms, a player's impact out west
Doesn't decrease 5gms and then conversely net improve +12 East
They are 16-14[last yr 19-11] with a 9-6[extrapolate to 18-12] record against East which equates
To a net +2gm difference, so I was being kind of generous giving him +4 difference
They are 7-8 against the West we are 1-10 against West
No way he provides 7gm difference, that's like saying
If we didn't have Melo but instead had Dragic we'd be 7-23 instead of 5-25
WTF are you talking about? This logic you're making up has no basis in fact. You just want to sound like you know what you're talking about. In fact the Knicks have been in a position to win a LOT of the games they've lost. Often just not having a breakdown player to create something when needed was the factorThe Knicks are 3-16 in games when the score has been within five points or fewer with five minutes remaining. That's a sign of poor late-game execution.
You can't just take the record and extrapolate from that since that's not explaining how they're losing and what could make a difference in wins or losses for the team. Despite all the clamor and dissing of the Knicks they really have had issues with consistent execution but particularly late game execution. A player or two making plays when needed would've made all the difference. Didn't matter who they played. They were in close games with a lot of teams both good and bad.
I know it doesn't fit with your narrative to suggest that the Knicks could actually have been successful if just one of the guys who they were depending on was more productive but it's been a factor. So many games we just needed someone to actually step up and help Melo so it wasn't just on him and we could get much needed buckets. YOU WATCHED THIS HAPPEN. So don't pretend that it's not true!
I'm sure when the Suns added Isiah Thomas to the team
They factored he'd be some kind of net positive on wins
That's not how it works, we were close last yr winning gms too remember
We added Elite Level High IQ Calderon and others and have a much worse record than last yr
You try and fit every narrative of said player to have
Any remote kind of interest in us or us in them as an absolute 100% fit
Simmer down Son as off you've been this yr
I understand what you're trying to say but just cuz you say it doesn't make it true. You can talk like you know what you're talking about since the Knicks have been losing but you DON'T know what you're talking about. This is why when you and others bash me I don't really listen to it. You can oversimplify things and say OH the Knicks suck and nothing would change that, but that's not really explaining anything.
On the Knicks there's been a particular issue with this team for a while not having a Guard either SG or PG who could score and run a team effectively. It's why when Lin went crazy it made such a huge difference. We needed a guard who could break a defense down and get to the hole. Right now once again we lack that ability from SG and PG. Whenever JR or tHJ attack the basket it's immediately noticeable how much of an improvement it makes on the team. It's why Woody used to BEG JR to drive. I don't care whether it comes from the SF, SG or PG, this team needs a player who can break down a defense and score so we're not just taking jumpers all the time.
Jose is a pass 1st PG who was here to setup our other players and in particular our SG's & SF's. If they don't score then it puts more pressure on Jose to be something he's not and teams can crowd Melo and our bigs. We need players who can create when the play stalls out and we have a HUGE lack of players able to do that. The way this team was setup it was for our SG's to be able to attack the hole but they've been reluctant to do this consistently. So that has left it to Jose and Prigs who don't excel in that area. Heck neither does Larkin, tho he's been getting more aggressive lately.
The team has a 3-16 record in games that were within 5pts in the last 4 minutes. So that's 19 games where the team was in a position to win the game. trust me that despite all the injuries, slumping and guys having trouble adjusting to the new system, this team was a lot closer to winning games than the record indicates. In this instance one player who addresses a specific area of need could've made the difference.
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