I agree with most of it except "humble opinion" part. We who start a thread for each synapse wished to share is not humble but self promoting the importance of the opinion above all.

Very UnZen!

I have been thinking the same thing about the media coverage all season. But I don't think they can go that route as they would have nothing to really talk about. They aren't going to talk about college prospects and potential free agents all season. They are going to look for dirt within the organization, sound bites of frustration, team turmoil, and all the things that losing brings.

Then when the season is over they will go heavy into the draft and free agency because that would be the only topics to really cover.

BRIGGS wrote:Now lets not BS -- Phil Jackson did not come in and try to clean house to tank--he was trying to win. There is absolutely NO WAY this club is 5-25 with Tyson Chandler. IMHO Phil believed with the addition of Calderon--we would be the 54 win team we were just 2 years ago. He believed dalembart would give a close replica of what Tyson could do that Brgnani would thrive here(and we wont know that 1) that Smith would do well--he spent 3mm+ on him--additional size new PG--check. Nope not even close but its ok. Other than the 4mm for 2015 that we paid overage from Felton to Calderon--we have a perfect set up to really change the club in 2015. This is what writers were calling for--and the club is in position to do this. Playing to win 8 games in a row will not help FA will not help drafting will not help us get into any playoffs the season is done. The writers need to embrace failure for the benefit of gain--its like they dont understand the sport they cover. Right now losing is winning and we have the 2nd best record in the league. Every loss is important and I dont care if its by 30 or 3. The beat writers need to give up the blame game and accept that we could get the best player weve had here in 20 years--were in position to get that from the draft AND we can get a really really good player in FA. Now its up to Phil to sell whatever he can at the deadline--I think we do have some vet assets--not much but some. When I see a tanking move a cut the ties move where a Dalembart is moved for 2nd rounders and Carmelo is finally forced into prolonged down time--Ill know we ve set the 2nd leg in motion here and the writers should pay attention to this--not who scored 30 on us.

I agree- his original plan was fine, but it just didn't work out. That happens. In the past we always went wrong because we had no plan B, and we had no patience to ride out the storm either- instead we panicked and tried to find a quick fix, which in turn made stuff worse.

Honestly, tune out the NYDN they have some sort of Dolan-Phil agenda- they have been blasting Phil literally from day one, with mostly made up crap (Isola kept blasting him for secrecy, not talking to the media etc etc and every time Phil proved him wrong). Now the NY Daily news's line is that Phil is to blame for this disaster because he brought 9 of the players here. What they don't say is that when you're capped out, have no draft picks and only 1 year of the MMLE, your options for players are greatly limited. They've got some behind the scenes stuff going on with their owner and Dolan, and as a result are just pumping out garbage.

BRIGGS wrote:Now lets not BS -- Phil Jackson did not come in and try to clean house to tank--he was trying to win. There is absolutely NO WAY this club is 5-25 with Tyson Chandler. IMHO Phil believed with the addition of Calderon--we would be the 54 win team we were just 2 years ago. He believed dalembart would give a close replica of what Tyson could do that Brgnani would thrive here(and we wont know that 1) that Smith would do well--he spent 3mm+ on him--additional size new PG--check. Nope not even close but its ok. Other than the 4mm for 2015 that we paid overage from Felton to Calderon--we have a perfect set up to really change the club in 2015. This is what writers were calling for--and the club is in position to do this. Playing to win 8 games in a row will not help FA will not help drafting will not help us get into any playoffs the season is done. The writers need to embrace failure for the benefit of gain--its like they dont understand the sport they cover. Right now losing is winning and we have the 2nd best record in the league. Every loss is important and I dont care if its by 30 or 3. The beat writers need to give up the blame game and accept that we could get the best player weve had here in 20 years--were in position to get that from the draft AND we can get a really really good player in FA. Now its up to Phil to sell whatever he can at the deadline--I think we do have some vet assets--not much but some. When I see a tanking move a cut the ties move where a Dalembart is moved for 2nd rounders and Carmelo is finally forced into prolonged down time--Ill know we ve set the 2nd leg in motion here and the writers should pay attention to this--not who scored 30 on us.

Lupica is a smart dude and actually does know what is happening...What he realizes is that Phil and Fisher isn't trying to tank and that these losses are a real effort of trying to get wins..That is what is scary...

newyorknewyork wrote:Even if the Tyson-Calderon deal has not panned out today. If in 3 yrs Early and Thanasis are good players for the Knicks. Then it can turn into a solid deal. To bad Early got injured as this would be the perfect time to give him big mins.

holfresh wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Now lets not BS -- Phil Jackson did not come in and try to clean house to tank--he was trying to win. There is absolutely NO WAY this club is 5-25 with Tyson Chandler. IMHO Phil believed with the addition of Calderon--we would be the 54 win team we were just 2 years ago. He believed dalembart would give a close replica of what Tyson could do that Bargnani would thrive here(and we wont know that 1) that Smith would do well--he spent 3mm+ on him--additional size new PG--check. Nope not even close but its ok. Other than the 4mm for 2015 that we paid overage from Felton to Calderon--we have a perfect set up to really change the club in 2015. This is what writers were calling for--and the club is in position to do this. Playing to win 8 games in a row will not help FA will not help drafting will not help us get into any playoffs the season is done. The writers need to embrace failure for the benefit of gain--its like they dont understand the sport they cover. Right now losing is winning and we have the 2nd best record in the league. Every loss is important and I dont care if its by 30 or 3. The beat writers need to give up the blame game and accept that we could get the best player weve had here in 20 years--were in position to get that from the draft AND we can get a really really good player in FA. Now its up to Phil to sell whatever he can at the deadline--I think we do have some vet assets--not much but some. When I see a tanking move a cut the ties move where a Dalembart is moved for 2nd rounders and Carmelo is finally forced into prolonged down time--Ill know we ve set the 2nd leg in motion here and the writers should pay attention to this--not who scored 30 on us.

Lupica is a smart dude and actually does know what is happening...What he realizes is that Phil and Fisher isn't trying to tank and that these losses are a real effort of trying to get wins..That is what is scary...

I have been a fan of Lupica for years all the way up until they fired Mike Woodson. He still invokes Woodson's name on his show, he props up Woodson for that 54 win season but won't give him any responsibility for the one after, laying it just on the players. He is constantly saying if Mike Woodson performed like Fisher is people would be crying for his firing (news flash Mike, he did, they did, he was) failing to mention Woodson had no offensive philosophy, was the ONLY coach in the league who demanded guys switch on the PnR constantly, and wasnt able to develop any of the minimal young talent we had (Shump should be so much better). I listen to him in podcast form and the minute he mentions Woodson's name, I'm out and stop listening.

joec32033 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Now lets not BS -- Phil Jackson did not come in and try to clean house to tank--he was trying to win. There is absolutely NO WAY this club is 5-25 with Tyson Chandler. IMHO Phil believed with the addition of Calderon--we would be the 54 win team we were just 2 years ago. He believed dalembart would give a close replica of what Tyson could do that Bargnani would thrive here(and we wont know that 1) that Smith would do well--he spent 3mm+ on him--additional size new PG--check. Nope not even close but its ok. Other than the 4mm for 2015 that we paid overage from Felton to Calderon--we have a perfect set up to really change the club in 2015. This is what writers were calling for--and the club is in position to do this. Playing to win 8 games in a row will not help FA will not help drafting will not help us get into any playoffs the season is done. The writers need to embrace failure for the benefit of gain--its like they dont understand the sport they cover. Right now losing is winning and we have the 2nd best record in the league. Every loss is important and I dont care if its by 30 or 3. The beat writers need to give up the blame game and accept that we could get the best player weve had here in 20 years--were in position to get that from the draft AND we can get a really really good player in FA. Now its up to Phil to sell whatever he can at the deadline--I think we do have some vet assets--not much but some. When I see a tanking move a cut the ties move where a Dalembart is moved for 2nd rounders and Carmelo is finally forced into prolonged down time--Ill know we ve set the 2nd leg in motion here and the writers should pay attention to this--not who scored 30 on us.

Lupica is a smart dude and actually does know what is happening...What he realizes is that Phil and Fisher isn't trying to tank and that these losses are a real effort of trying to get wins..That is what is scary...

I have been a fan of Lupica for years all the way up until they fired Mike Woodson. He still invokes Woodson's name on his show, he props up Woodson for that 54 win season but won't give him any responsibility for the one after, laying it just on the players. He is constantly saying if Mike Woodson performed like Fisher is people would be crying for his firing (news flash Mike, he did, they did, he was) failing to mention Woodson had no offensive philosophy, was the ONLY coach in the league who demanded guys switch on the PnR constantly, and wasnt able to develop any of the minimal young talent we had (Shump should be so much better). I listen to him in podcast form and the minute he mentions Woodson's name, I'm out and stop listening.

Well you might not like Woodson but he was the most successful coach here in the last decade...Includes LB,Wilkins,and Fisher..