Shump is a bum. He's had every opportunity to succeed. He's started 160 something games out of a little over 200. He's always been a first team Knick. Now look at thjr while he takes shumps spot.

So let the bulls max out butler. We have a shooting guard in the rookie scale

EnySpree wrote:It's either you have it or you don't. The nba is a pro league. You have to do the work to get better. Case in point Amare developed a part game in one summer after training with Hakeem. Javale Mcgee trained with amare the same summer. Javale is still a bum. Guys have got to want it just like anything in life.

Shump is a bum. He's had every opportunity to succeed. He's started 160 something games out of a little over 200. He's always been a first team Knick. Now look at thjr while he takes shumps spot.

So let the bulls max out butler. We have a shooting guard in the rookie scale

That's okay but Butler isn't going anywhere

It's not like he'll become a bad basketball player

Who cares what he gets paid, we have to find guards

Who either cancel the likes or are better

And while it's good to have THJR hopefully 2yrs if he progresses

Eventually we'll have to pay him too

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:Would be silly to give a guy max money off one year of good play..Dragic was great last year, this year not so much..He dropped 35 on us for the first time in his career..Max guy??..No..

either way i would trade anyone we have for him. He has become a dangerous two way player

Good thing for us Knick fans u are only a civilian...

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:Would be silly to give a guy max money off one year of good play..Dragic was great last year, this year not so much..He dropped 35 on us for the first time in his career..Max guy??..No..

either way i would trade anyone we have for him. He has become a dangerous two way player

Good thing for us Knick fans u are only a civilian...

i wasnt including melo, because i would want more than butler in any melo trade

I'd take Butler for Melo especially if the price tag

Is cheaper for other players

Take for instance Mark Cuban essentially turned

The opportunity to sign Melo into Chandler Parsons who was cheaper

Leaving them the flexibility to make a trade and commit

Future dollars for a prime player Rondo

So in essence he Sign and traded Melo[the opportunity to sign him] in a round about way

For Parsons and Rondo and I always want flexibility along with acquiring talent

Morey the same turned Parsons-Asik into Ariza and TPE

Which just yesterday became Corey Brewer and Alexy Shved

That's Chandler Parsons-Asik for Ariza-Brewer-Shved-1st rounder

If you can't SEE THE FOREST THROUGH THE TREES then stop following this sport

callmened wrote:regardless is if hes a top 10 player or not (i dont think he is)...hes going to ask for max money

StarksEwing1 wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:Would be silly to give a guy max money off one year of good play..Dragic was great last year, this year not so much..He dropped 35 on us for the first time in his career..Max guy??..No..

either way i would trade anyone we have for him. He has become a dangerous two way player

Good thing for us Knick fans u are only a civilian...

i wasnt including melo, because i would want more than butler in any melo trade

I'd take Butler for Melo especially if the price tag

Is cheaper for other players

Take for instance Mark Cuban essentially turned

The opportunity to sign Melo into Chandler Parsons who was cheaper

Leaving them the flexibility to make a trade and commit

Future dollars for a prime player Rondo

So in essence he Sign and traded Melo[the opportunity to sign him] in a round about way

For Parsons and Rondo and I always want flexibility along with acquiring talent

Morey the same turned Parsons-Asik into Ariza and TPE

Which just yesterday became Corey Brewer and Alexy Shved

That's Chandler Parsons-Asik for Ariza-Brewer-Shved-1st rounder

If you can't SEE THE FOREST THROUGH THE TREES then stop following this sport

i would also want at least a first rounder Plus mcdermott or the euro kid

That's fine in a ideal S&T situation

But if the Bulls offered Butler for Carmelo now

And it was legal under CBA rules, I'd take it straight up

Because you're getting the better PLAYER and "cap flexibility"

Now having further cap to fill out whatever is lacking in what you didn't receive

Phil already had his chance he blew it and blew it big

A more realistic deal would have been Melo-Smith for Boozer-Dunleavy-Gibson-Chicago 2 1st rounders

Mirotic wasn't signed at the time and Butler wasn't going to be included

Chicago has zero interest to do a deal now for any of the aforementioned of your likings