GoNyGoNyGo wrote:I would try Chicago. I would take a pick, Butler and a young big. That's enough...hopefully they could even get that much.

Good luck! I thought of that, but then looked at the salaries- it's impossible, Bulls can't come close to matching.

Bonn1997 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:I would try Chicago. I would take a pick, Butler and a young big. That's enough...hopefully they could even get that much.

Good luck! I thought of that, but then looked at the salaries- it's impossible, Bulls can't come close to matching.

It would have to be a multi-team deal

I would weep for joy if we could trade Melo for Butler and Mitrioc (don't think Butler would be quite so happy though! He'd probably walk in the offseason too). I wanted us to deal with the Bulls in the offseason, but alas it was not to be, and it's not going to be.

stanleybostitch wrote:What do these things have in common?

• A culture "resistant to change".


• Players who only play defense "when they feel like it".


• Ball-stopping ISOs.


• Disdain of the triangle.


• Very low BBIQ.

It's time to move on from Melo. He doesn't get it and never will. Trade him for a bag of peanuts, whatever we can get, exorcising the Garden of his me-first attitude and declining skills will pay dividends.

This will be a test to see if Phil truly has the juice. If Dolan stays on the sidelines and lets Phil fix the team, starting with Melo, then the Knicks have a bright future. If not...I guess we'll continue to redefine what "long suffering" means to us fans.

Thoughts on who/what we can get for Melo?

He has a no trade clause, why start a thread that is pointless, or a discussion that's far fetch

H1AND1 wrote:

Splat wrote:The problem with trades for Melo is it is a massive confession that he ultimately sucks and we need to get him off our team.

Just the need to dump him so soon signals his value is vastly less than his contract.

Who is going to assume that kind of contract for a prima donna scorer who is aging like Dorian Gray before our very eyes?

NOBODY.

We're stuck with this lemon.

Phil failed at his biggest decision. The rest of his time here will be spent trying to dance around Melo.

Seriously, nobody is going to take on Melo's contract. Unless there is a way for Dolan to assume a significant portion of the cost of Melo's deal, I see no hope of trading him. And I have no idea how that is even possible. Pretty sure it is not.

We're kind of screwed fellas.

All you can do is hope for magic and a rebuild that succeeds in spite of Melo and which renders him to a secondary status on the roster.

But so many so called "untradeable" contracts have been traded: Gil Arenas, Joe Johnson, etc. If Melo waives the no trade clause, Im sure there is a deal out there. Of course, we wont get back any value and will have to eat other bad deals, but if they guy wants out the Knicks want him gone, it can be done.

But I'm not talking abut Melo consenting. Phil can embarrass Melo's cashmere butt out NYC and he'll be begging to be traded.

I'm just saying finding someone to take on the largest gross value contract in the NBA is very, very hard when the player is not really worth anything close to that number. It is going to be hard for other clubs to justify such a trade to their fan base.

I think you're underestimating the difficulty of this.

Finding a viable trade partner is the problem. Shaming Melo out of town is doable.

stanleybostitch wrote:What do these things have in common?

• A culture "resistant to change".


• Players who only play defense "when they feel like it".


• Ball-stopping ISOs.


• Disdain of the triangle.


• Very low BBIQ.

It's time to move on from Melo. He doesn't get it and never will. Trade him for a bag of peanuts, whatever we can get, exorcising the Garden of his me-first attitude and declining skills will pay dividends.

This will be a test to see if Phil truly has the juice. If Dolan stays on the sidelines and lets Phil fix the team, starting with Melo, then the Knicks have a bright future. If not...I guess we'll continue to redefine what "long suffering" means to us fans.

Thoughts on who/what we can get for Melo?

Juice for what? What could we possibly get back in terms of fair value that doesn't set the franchise further back? We are tanking. The roster stinks. There will be a full house cleaning in the off-season. Until then, embrace the tank.