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BRIGGS
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12/4/2014  1:29 PM
The guy has been great and getting even better. Whatever anyone wants to say--whatever happened last year--I cant say why we didnt get along or whatever--but if we used the 3mm lower level exepctiosn to help the G positions--the Knicks would be 12-5 right now with that type of play.
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12/4/2014  1:31 PM
We done F that one up
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12/4/2014  1:33 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/4/2014  1:35 PM
HE probably would have done this for us, I really don't know what to say about him.

He isn't a City Guy but he does have a good game.
Really, what can you say? He had one good year for NYK at least, but yes, it is amazing how much better he is playing than last year.


...the 12-5 part...I don't know about that!

I'm just a little sour right now but I dunno....

[quote="jrodmc"] Melo is stupid. [/quote]
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12/4/2014  1:37 PM
"with that type of play" is the key. Tyson didnt want to be here and he played that way. He's clearly invigorated in Dal.

I think the Knicks acted fairly based on what they saw last year. Maybe with a contract year we get that kind of effort, maybe we dont. Who knows. He dogged his way off the team and now he's playing like it had nothing to do him. Kinda makes me hate Tyson if anything

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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12/4/2014  1:39 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/4/2014  1:53 PM
gunsnewing wrote:We done F that one up

Monta Ellis is a better bargain than Melo

Dirk is the kind of Superstar you can retool and rebuild around


Without having to endure extreme setbacks and doover after doover
BRIGGS
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12/4/2014  1:55 PM
fishmike wrote:"with that type of play" is the key. Tyson didnt want to be here and he played that way. He's clearly invigorated in Dal.

I think the Knicks acted fairly based on what they saw last year. Maybe with a contract year we get that kind of effort, maybe we dont. Who knows. He dogged his way off the team and now he's playing like it had nothing to do him. Kinda makes me hate Tyson if anything

Many players come here and their value goes down and subsequently back when they are traded. We have a cranky dumb owner and the guys making the calls behind him were not good enough. One thing I dont get--we spend so much money--why not spend the 12mm per year on a Sam Presti? Phil Jackson is 68 and does the job part time.

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12/4/2014  2:23 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
fishmike wrote:"with that type of play" is the key. Tyson didnt want to be here and he played that way. He's clearly invigorated in Dal.

I think the Knicks acted fairly based on what they saw last year. Maybe with a contract year we get that kind of effort, maybe we dont. Who knows. He dogged his way off the team and now he's playing like it had nothing to do him. Kinda makes me hate Tyson if anything

Many players come here and their value goes down and subsequently back when they are traded. We have a cranky dumb owner and the guys making the calls behind him were not good enough. One thing I dont get--we spend so much money--why not spend the 12mm per year on a Sam Presti? Phil Jackson is 68 and does the job part time.

Sam wins in SAS, gets paid nice, had a great owner and a coach.
Why work for a phuch face like Dolan?

Phil is part time?
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BRIGGS wrote:
fishmike wrote:"with that type of play" is the key. Tyson didnt want to be here and he played that way. He's clearly invigorated in Dal.

I think the Knicks acted fairly based on what they saw last year. Maybe with a contract year we get that kind of effort, maybe we dont. Who knows. He dogged his way off the team and now he's playing like it had nothing to do him. Kinda makes me hate Tyson if anything

Many players come here and their value goes down and subsequently back when they are traded. We have a cranky dumb owner and the guys making the calls behind him were not good enough. One thing I dont get--we spend so much money--why not spend the 12mm per year on a Sam Presti? Phil Jackson is 68 and does the job part time.

its just high turnover. Equal number of guys come here and just wilt. Im defending MSG by any stretch, we have never had more than an 18 month plan in place here.
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12/4/2014  2:48 PM
Hector wrote:HE probably would have done this for us, I really don't know what to say about him.

He isn't a City Guy but he does have a good game.
Really, what can you say? He had one good year for NYK at least, but yes, it is amazing how much better he is playing than last year.


...the 12-5 part...I don't know about that!

I'm just a little sour right now but I dunno....

he sucks on a bad team just like many players. He would suck even worse in the triangle.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
BRIGGS
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12/4/2014  2:49 PM
fishmike wrote:"with that type of play" is the key. Tyson didnt want to be here and he played that way. He's clearly invigorated in Dal.

I think the Knicks acted fairly based on what they saw last year. Maybe with a contract year we get that kind of effort, maybe we dont. Who knows. He dogged his way off the team and now he's playing like it had nothing to do him. Kinda makes me hate Tyson if anything

Also I dont think you can be in the business of trading players who might be a little upset playing in NY. The guy was making 11mm and he took the contract to come here. he played very well in season 1. Whatever happened--where Tyson lost value--thats up in the air. But the decision makers took MUCH less and took on salary to get rid of him. When you start saying who is the best C right now in the NBA Tyson is in the top 5.

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12/4/2014  2:50 PM
mreinman wrote:
Hector wrote:HE probably would have done this for us, I really don't know what to say about him.

He isn't a City Guy but he does have a good game.
Really, what can you say? He had one good year for NYK at least, but yes, it is amazing how much better he is playing than last year.


...the 12-5 part...I don't know about that!

I'm just a little sour right now but I dunno....

he sucks on a bad team just like many players. He would suck even worse in the triangle.

by the time we get enough players who want to run the triangle--Phil Jackson will be long gone.

RIP Crushalot😞
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12/4/2014  2:57 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
fishmike wrote:"with that type of play" is the key. Tyson didnt want to be here and he played that way. He's clearly invigorated in Dal.

I think the Knicks acted fairly based on what they saw last year. Maybe with a contract year we get that kind of effort, maybe we dont. Who knows. He dogged his way off the team and now he's playing like it had nothing to do him. Kinda makes me hate Tyson if anything

Also I dont think you can be in the business of trading players who might be a little upset playing in NY. The guy was making 11mm and he took the contract to come here. he played very well in season 1. Whatever happened--where Tyson lost value--thats up in the air. But the decision makers took MUCH less and took on salary to get rid of him. When you start saying who is the best C right now in the NBA Tyson is in the top 5.

Prior to trade this is what he was making on our Bank Roll

2011-12 	New York Knicks 	NBA 	$13,107,837
2012-13 	New York Knicks 	NBA 	$13,604,188
2013-14 	New York Knicks 	NBA 	$14,100,538
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12/4/2014  3:02 PM
mreinman wrote:
Hector wrote:HE probably would have done this for us, I really don't know what to say about him.

He isn't a City Guy but he does have a good game.
Really, what can you say? He had one good year for NYK at least, but yes, it is amazing how much better he is playing than last year.


...the 12-5 part...I don't know about that!

I'm just a little sour right now but I dunno....

he sucks on a bad team just like many players. He would suck even worse in the triangle.

Baad teams turn good players into bad players

ES
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12/4/2014  3:10 PM
I dont regret the trade. Lets face it Tyson should have never left dallas. he is comfortable there and he plays his best there. Im not a big fan of Calderon but he can be a serviceable guard who can shoot well, i like larkin, and we got a couple draft picks out of it that might end up as good role players on the defensive side
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12/4/2014  3:13 PM
Nalod wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
fishmike wrote:"with that type of play" is the key. Tyson didnt want to be here and he played that way. He's clearly invigorated in Dal.

I think the Knicks acted fairly based on what they saw last year. Maybe with a contract year we get that kind of effort, maybe we dont. Who knows. He dogged his way off the team and now he's playing like it had nothing to do him. Kinda makes me hate Tyson if anything

Many players come here and their value goes down and subsequently back when they are traded. We have a cranky dumb owner and the guys making the calls behind him were not good enough. One thing I dont get--we spend so much money--why not spend the 12mm per year on a Sam Presti? Phil Jackson is 68 and does the job part time.

Sam wins in SAS, gets paid nice, had a great owner and a coach.
Why work for a phuch face like Dolan?

Phil is part time?

You mean Rick Buford. Sam Presti is with OKC. I agree they must love their jobs and would not come here
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12/4/2014  3:14 PM
We all know he would not be playing with any effort in NY. He had the nickname Flu Tyson for a reason. He was never the same after his 1st season here.
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12/4/2014  3:16 PM
it does seem he manages to avoid the Flu better in Dallas than NY
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12/4/2014  3:16 PM
we did not need him this year. winning is not the priority. Triangles and Tanks.
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/4/2014  3:17 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/4/2014  3:17 PM
Clean wrote:We all know he would not be playing with any effort in NY. He had the nickname Flu Tyson for a reason. He was never the same after his 1st season here.
Dallas was always the best place for him. He was a big part of them winning of title and since going back he has been very good for them again. I think a lot of it is being comfortable and he clearly wasnt here. I agree he should have put forth more effort here but it is what it is
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12/4/2014  4:50 PM
mreinman wrote:we did not need him this year. winning is not the priority. Triangles and Tanks.

You mean, you wish winning wasn't a priority this year. Clearly it is if they're making Melo come back from a back injury after 2 games.
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