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Knicks1969
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12/1/2014  12:03 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/1/2014  12:06 PM
This dude "Fisher" may still pan out to be a very good coach, but his lack of coaching experience is certainly the reason behind our slow start. For a starter, he is the one who chose to have a different starting lineup for every game thus far; the lack of familiarity and continuity stemmed from that. He has no idea about his rotation; one day a dude gets 20 minutes of play, the next day he might not even see the floor; which, in my opinion, is the reason for the lack of shooting confidence.

From the time this dude was offered the job, he was all aware of the talents he was inheriting. He should have known that the players were all one trick ponies and had no clue about defense. They chose to unveil the triangle offense from the jump while knowing for a fact that the talents on the roster were not good enough to run it.

On offense, our 1 on 1 players simply can't find the open space on the floor to get their shots up uncontested. Instead of preaching "help" offense, by asking guys to set picks to help free the shooters, you often find guys trying to do too much and end up turning the ball over to the opposing teams.

On defense, the problems are more glaring. Fisher is asking a bunch of dudes who never played defense since their inception to defend; specifically, in the midst of learning the complicated triangular system. You often see opposing players wide open on the perimeter or running unchallenged in the paint once the ball is swing around a couple of times by the opposing teams.

If any blame needs to be assigned for our failure, it should fall squarely on the back of FISHER. Steve Kehr,who is also new, decided not to ask his players to change their habits. instead, he decided to Tailor his system around the players on the roster.

This should not have been the year to unveil the triangle, the coach/Phil could/should have waited until next season to Bring in players who can: naturally share the ball, find pleasure in defending their positions, as well as, guys who can make shots.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/1/2014  12:05 PM
I'm not blaming him, he is executing a plan to perfection.
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12/1/2014  12:07 PM
Vmart wrote:I'm not blaming him, he is executing a plan to perfection.

What plan is that?

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/1/2014  12:12 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
Vmart wrote:I'm not blaming him, he is executing a plan to perfection.

What plan is that?

The plan to glory.

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12/1/2014  12:13 PM
play thjr more he is our best option at the 2 guard… whenever fish finally puts him in we always make a run… its unbeavable that fish plays shump and jr over this super talented kid… and all we see is bad defense and brick after brick from jr and shump… while timmy is loosing confidence rotting on the bench till fisher finally plays him in the 4th and we go on a run and the fool pulls him for shump and we go back down by 10. im sorry but shump is a fake defender he gets beat consistantly thjr is our future let the boy run and play
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12/1/2014  12:30 PM
fitzfarm wrote:play thjr more he is our best option at the 2 guard… whenever fish finally puts him in we always make a run… its unbeavable that fish plays shump and jr over this super talented kid… and all we see is bad defense and brick after brick from jr and shump… while timmy is loosing confidence rotting on the bench till fisher finally plays him in the 4th and we go on a run and the fool pulls him for shump and we go back down by 10. im sorry but shump is a fake defender he gets beat consistantly thjr is our future let the boy run and play

There is a reason Shump and JR are getting run. They are desperately trying up their value so they can be moved.

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12/1/2014  12:31 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/1/2014  12:31 PM
It's not really "Fisher's" fault that the majority of this team is lacking in talent. Not even Pop could get this motley crew to a .500 record. The bottom line is this team is horrible and has very few players who would even crack a rotation on a contending team.
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12/1/2014  12:32 PM
the guy is a rookie head coach on a team that is rebuilding. why are we getting on him? nobody is phil jackson or red auerbach in their first season as head coach.
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12/1/2014  12:33 PM
Vmart wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:play thjr more he is our best option at the 2 guard… whenever fish finally puts him in we always make a run… its unbeavable that fish plays shump and jr over this super talented kid… and all we see is bad defense and brick after brick from jr and shump… while timmy is loosing confidence rotting on the bench till fisher finally plays him in the 4th and we go on a run and the fool pulls him for shump and we go back down by 10. im sorry but shump is a fake defender he gets beat consistantly thjr is our future let the boy run and play

There is a reason Shump and JR are getting run. They are desperately trying up their value so they can be moved.

Then the plan has failed

They've never been worse

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12/1/2014  12:38 PM
F500ONE wrote:
Vmart wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:play thjr more he is our best option at the 2 guard… whenever fish finally puts him in we always make a run… its unbeavable that fish plays shump and jr over this super talented kid… and all we see is bad defense and brick after brick from jr and shump… while timmy is loosing confidence rotting on the bench till fisher finally plays him in the 4th and we go on a run and the fool pulls him for shump and we go back down by 10. im sorry but shump is a fake defender he gets beat consistantly thjr is our future let the boy run and play

There is a reason Shump and JR are getting run. They are desperately trying up their value so they can be moved.

Then the plan has failed

They've never been worse

No the plan continues. There are many ways to manipulate games. Just as a coach can manipulate a team to Max wins you can do so for other reasons. Shump looked pretty decent just flew games ago. JR just had a 20+ point game. I do think there horse and pony show going on.

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12/1/2014  12:45 PM
Vmart wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
Vmart wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:play thjr more he is our best option at the 2 guard… whenever fish finally puts him in we always make a run… its unbeavable that fish plays shump and jr over this super talented kid… and all we see is bad defense and brick after brick from jr and shump… while timmy is loosing confidence rotting on the bench till fisher finally plays him in the 4th and we go on a run and the fool pulls him for shump and we go back down by 10. im sorry but shump is a fake defender he gets beat consistantly thjr is our future let the boy run and play

There is a reason Shump and JR are getting run. They are desperately trying up their value so they can be moved.

Then the plan has failed

They've never been worse

No the plan continues. There are many ways to manipulate games. Just as a coach can manipulate a team to Max wins you can do so for other reasons. Shump looked pretty decent just flew games ago. JR just had a 20+ point game. I do think there horse and pony show going on.

Naaaahh Shump has played 6 near trash games in a row

And Smith had a 28pt performance 7gms ago


What have you been watching, they are pure refuse right now

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12/1/2014  1:06 PM
Blame it on the rain....
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12/1/2014  2:07 PM
Nalod wrote:Blame it on the rain....

Poor Melo Vanilli Fake Superstar

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12/1/2014  2:12 PM
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Nalod wrote:Blame it on the rain....

Poor Melo Vanilli Fake Superstar

Carmelo is not a superstar. He is a star, definitely not a superstar. Superstars command others to follow, Carmelo has yet to prove that he is that type of player.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/1/2014  3:44 PM
Yet another in the lineage of Knicks1969 idiotic threads. Dude, why do you bother starting more hater threads? Do you think an experienced HC would want to be under Jax in a tanking year (or at all)?

Get a clue, man.

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12/1/2014  3:56 PM
Moonangie wrote:Yet another in the lineage of Knicks1969 idiotic threads. Dude, why do you bother starting more hater threads? Do you think an experienced HC would want to be under Jax in a tanking year (or at all)?

Get a clue, man.

Mark Jackson and many others wanted the Job. You are the one who needs to get a clue.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/1/2014  4:01 PM
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Moonangie wrote:Yet another in the lineage of Knicks1969 idiotic threads. Dude, why do you bother starting more hater threads? Do you think an experienced HC would want to be under Jax in a tanking year (or at all)?

Get a clue, man.

Mark Jackson and many others wanted the Job. You are the one who needs to get a clue.

And Mark Jax is going to run the team to Phil's specifications?

Kerr im sure was told "its gonna suck, you'll lose the first year but little pressure, you'll be away from family, but you'll get paid!
Kerr is buddies with GS owner, its president worked for Suns previously and the Roster is ready now. Same money. No brainer.

Fish gets chance to learn on the fly, work for the Zen master, get paid, and no pressure year one. Good gig!!

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12/1/2014  4:08 PM
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Knicks1969 wrote:
Moonangie wrote:Yet another in the lineage of Knicks1969 idiotic threads. Dude, why do you bother starting more hater threads? Do you think an experienced HC would want to be under Jax in a tanking year (or at all)?

Get a clue, man.

Mark Jackson and many others wanted the Job. You are the one who needs to get a clue.

And Mark Jax is going to run the team to Phil's specifications?

Kerr im sure was told "its gonna suck, you'll lose the first year but little pressure, you'll be away from family, but you'll get paid!
Kerr is buddies with GS owner, its president worked for Suns previously and the Roster is ready now. Same money. No brainer.

Fish gets chance to learn on the fly, work for the Zen master, get paid, and no pressure year one. Good gig!!


Actually that's what Kerr told Phil

And why he waited and waited and waited until the GSW job came open


Phil knew he didn't want this job either

Which is why he changed his initial offer to Kerr


They both had somewhat conflicting stories as to why

He didn't take the job

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12/1/2014  4:08 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/1/2014  4:10 PM
Nalod wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
Moonangie wrote:Yet another in the lineage of Knicks1969 idiotic threads. Dude, why do you bother starting more hater threads? Do you think an experienced HC would want to be under Jax in a tanking year (or at all)?

Get a clue, man.

Mark Jackson and many others wanted the Job. You are the one who needs to get a clue.

And Mark Jax is going to run the team to Phil's specifications?

Kerr im sure was told "its gonna suck, you'll lose the first year but little pressure, you'll be away from family, but you'll get paid!
Kerr is buddies with GS owner, its president worked for Suns previously and the Roster is ready now. Same money. No brainer.

Fish gets chance to learn on the fly, work for the Zen master, get paid, and no pressure year one. Good gig!!

I will not dispute that. Dude, I actually don't mind losing; I just don't want to lose with JR, Amare, and Bargnani. I want the young boys to develop, and I want the guys who might be around a while to get minutes to learn the TRIANGLE. As long as Wear, THJ, and Larkin are getting heavy minutes, I will be a huge supporter of Fisher. Show me what tomorrow might look like

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/1/2014  5:22 PM
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Nalod wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
Moonangie wrote:Yet another in the lineage of Knicks1969 idiotic threads. Dude, why do you bother starting more hater threads? Do you think an experienced HC would want to be under Jax in a tanking year (or at all)?

Get a clue, man.

Mark Jackson and many others wanted the Job. You are the one who needs to get a clue.

And Mark Jax is going to run the team to Phil's specifications?

Kerr im sure was told "its gonna suck, you'll lose the first year but little pressure, you'll be away from family, but you'll get paid!
Kerr is buddies with GS owner, its president worked for Suns previously and the Roster is ready now. Same money. No brainer.

Fish gets chance to learn on the fly, work for the Zen master, get paid, and no pressure year one. Good gig!!

I will not dispute that. Dude, I actually don't mind losing; I just don't want to lose with JR, Amare, and Bargnani. I want the young boys to develop, and I want the guys who might be around a while to get minutes to learn the TRIANGLE. As long as Wear, THJ, and Larkin are getting heavy minutes, I will be a huge supporter of Fisher. Show me what tomorrow might look like

Its a long season and if you give the toots big minutes after not being built for it they will break.
Its a long season. very long.
In two weeks we might see changes. Might not.
The games must be played. Melo is the star attraction. Its broadway. Star actor with a bad supporting cast.

Its a long season. Get used to it. Yoots might get minutes on the back end.

Tanking has many faces to it.

BLAME IT ALL ON FISHER

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