Here's the exchange

F500ONE wrote:

nixluva wrote:

F500ONE wrote:Shump 0-6fg

J.R. 1-11fg

THJR 3-10fg

The hard pill to swallow on those figures

They are capable of doing this again

When the games count

Really? That's the take you have on a poor shooting night? Not that these players will more than likely shoot better than this on average? Geez! And y'all wonder why I talk about Self Hating Knick Fans. SMDH

What you don't get if they do this

Let's say 15 times out of 82gms[very realistic]

67gms they play mediocre/average/above average

That's probably the difference from being

An okay team to a bad team

Because they'll be their usual self

For the remaining regular season games

And not winning 50gms but more like 35gms

They all have at least 3 bad shooting performances this year

I said they'd have about 15[may have more] and here they are for each

Shumpert

10/29 2-9fg
11/19 1-11fg
11/24 2-10fg

Smith

10/29 2-8fg
11/10 4-11fg
11/18 3-12fg

THJR

10/29 2-10fg
11/12 1-8fg
11/14 1-6fg

[he's also had a couple 2-7fg]

If you are on a 1 year contract, you are playing for your next contract - so no excuses.

We suck and they started by playing above their heads, as they (somewhat) did with Woody (but we had more talent then).

fishmike wrote:They are really good players. THjr is a star in the making. JR was the 6th man of the year and Iman Shumpert is the best 2 way player since Ewing. These guys would be great if Melo shared the ball.

There... someone had to say it !!!!

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:They are really good players. THjr is a star in the making. JR was the 6th man of the year and Iman Shumpert is the best 2 way player since Ewing. These guys would be great if Melo shared the ball.

There... someone had to say it !!!!

You're funny fish Even when nobody is hating on melo you have make one up in order to defend him

It's becoming a sick and twisted trend between he and jrod

They can never stay on point

Skull Danger levels of intoxication

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:IDK if it's the inconsistent minutes, but defensively, sg's have been feasting from downtown, and I think it's the main reason were losing..

I think the rotation is also a big reason for our slow start, but those 3 have been brutal..I thought after JR's big game against denver he would start, it was by far our most impressive victory. THJ had a big game, and so have Shump, but their minutes have been super erratic.

Too many 1 yr contracts on this team for players to go all out, too many roles not define, minutes are all over the place, you can't win like that..

Wait a second. On one post you say there is no value in letting the Knicks tank--now you post that almost every current Knick scks. You cant see why we need a high pick?

Kyrie was a NUMBER 1 pick and has been in the league for 3 yrs, and Cleveland is still horrible with multiple number one picks. Then they trade all of there picks for LOVE who can't defend, has no post up game, and doesn't fit there system.

There are no durants, duncans, labrons, curry's coming out of college, so I don't why you guys are gun ho about a NBA draft that has a 10% chance of producing a impact player

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:IDK if it's the inconsistent minutes, but defensively, sg's have been feasting from downtown, and I think it's the main reason were losing..

I think the rotation is also a big reason for our slow start, but those 3 have been brutal..I thought after JR's big game against denver he would start, it was by far our most impressive victory. THJ had a big game, and so have Shump, but their minutes have been super erratic.

Too many 1 yr contracts on this team for players to go all out, too many roles not define, minutes are all over the place, you can't win like that..

Wait a second. On one post you say there is no value in letting the Knicks tank--now you post that almost every current Knick scks. You cant see why we need a high pick?

Unless There is a sure star coming out, i'll trade my pick in a heart beat..Whats to keep us from drafting another shumpert or THJ, with a low IQ, AND NEEDS 5 YRS TO DEVELOP, or is injury prone like rose and kyrie.

Kyrie was a NUMBER 1 pick and has been in the league for 3 yrs, and Cleveland is still horrible with multiple number one picks. Then they trade all of there picks for LOVE who can't defend, has no post up game, and doesn't fit there system.

There are no durants, duncans, labrons, curry's coming out of college, so I don't why you guys are gun ho about a NBA draft that has a 10% chance of producing a impact player

You haven't been watching enough College Bball

There's about 3-4 players who can change a franchise, who may declare

Anywhere from Anthony Davis type to Joahkim Noah, LaMarcus Aldridge type

If you don't want to be in the lottery to have a chance at them

Then you're just being unrealistic on what the draft should be about

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:IDK if it's the inconsistent minutes, but defensively, sg's have been feasting from downtown, and I think it's the main reason were losing..

I think the rotation is also a big reason for our slow start, but those 3 have been brutal..I thought after JR's big game against denver he would start, it was by far our most impressive victory. THJ had a big game, and so have Shump, but their minutes have been super erratic.

Too many 1 yr contracts on this team for players to go all out, too many roles not define, minutes are all over the place, you can't win like that..

Wait a second. On one post you say there is no value in letting the Knicks tank--now you post that almost every current Knick scks. You cant see why we need a high pick?

Unless There is a sure star coming out, i'll trade my pick in a heart beat..Whats to keep us from drafting another shumpert or THJ, with a low IQ, AND NEEDS 5 YRS TO DEVELOP, or is injury prone like rose and kyrie.

Kyrie was a NUMBER 1 pick and has been in the league for 3 yrs, and Cleveland is still horrible with multiple number one picks. Then they trade all of there picks for LOVE who can't defend, has no post up game, and doesn't fit there system.

There are no durants, duncans, labrons, curry's coming out of college, so I don't why you guys are gun ho about a NBA draft that has a 10% chance of producing a impact player

Come on?

Knicks1969 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:IDK if it's the inconsistent minutes, but defensively, sg's have been feasting from downtown, and I think it's the main reason were losing..

I think the rotation is also a big reason for our slow start, but those 3 have been brutal..I thought after JR's big game against denver he would start, it was by far our most impressive victory. THJ had a big game, and so have Shump, but their minutes have been super erratic.

Too many 1 yr contracts on this team for players to go all out, too many roles not define, minutes are all over the place, you can't win like that..

Wait a second. On one post you say there is no value in letting the Knicks tank--now you post that almost every current Knick scks. You cant see why we need a high pick?

Unless There is a sure star coming out, i'll trade my pick in a heart beat..Whats to keep us from drafting another shumpert or THJ, with a low IQ, AND NEEDS 5 YRS TO DEVELOP, or is injury prone like rose and kyrie.

Kyrie was a NUMBER 1 pick and has been in the league for 3 yrs, and Cleveland is still horrible with multiple number one picks. Then they trade all of there picks for LOVE who can't defend, has no post up game, and doesn't fit there system.

There are no durants, duncans, labrons, curry's coming out of college, so I don't why you guys are gun ho about a NBA draft that has a 10% chance of producing a impact player

I actually agree with you 100%. The year to have a top draft pick was last year. The next draft, the available players will be like the draft where Kwame brown was drafted if not worse.

briggs you can ignore the fact all day, but you can't dispute what you have witness with your own 2 eyes. Look how many draft picks we have given away, look how many players we have drafted and traded away..I just don't see any difference. The knicks have been border line avg when it comes to drafting. but if fisher keeps doing what he's doing, make no mistake, we will have a high pick, maybe even #1 overall

But my guess is that phil will trade one of our guards before the dead line.