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FireWoodson
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10/22/2014  10:04 PM
OK, so Pete Sampras is out with a calf injury. Who does Fisher put in the starting lineup? Pablo? Nope. Barry Larkin's kid gets the job.

The reason why we hated Woodson was because that ass hole actually believed Raymond Felton was a better b-ball player than Pablo Prigioni! No matter what we saw on the court from the two, no matter that every statistic on Earth showed that the team was far more productive with Pablo on the court, Woodson always went with Felton. Woodson looked like the biggest dope on Earth.

And now our new coach is doing the same. Actually he is doing worse. He is starting a two year player over world class Pablo!

Fire Fisher!

Is this a race thing going on? Why the hell is Barry Larkin's kid getting a start and Pablo has now been moved to third string?

Fire Fisher! Bring in someone who appreciates hard, smart basketball.

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10/22/2014  10:05 PM
this is the dumbest post ever, even if its a joke.
so here is what phil is thinking ....
FireWoodson
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10/22/2014  10:08 PM
So you'd play Barry Larkin's kid over world class Pablo.
Are you sure you want to toss out the word dumb?

Pablo should get 20 minutes a game. Pete Sampras 24. Give four minutes mop up time to Barry Larkin's kid.

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10/22/2014  10:10 PM
FireWoodson wrote:So you'd play Barry Larkin's kid over world class Pablo.
Are you sure you want to toss out the word dumb?

Pablo should get 20 minutes a game. Pete Sampras 24. Give four minutes mop up time to Barry Larkin's kid.

Put the crack pipe down..

ES
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10/22/2014  10:15 PM
Hey, at least that crack pipe allows me to see solid, good old fashioned, hard working, quality, smart basketball. It's been so long since we've seen that in the NBA that guys like you are confused by a player like Pablo. "Oh, he can't slam and dunk and make the ESPN highlights. What good is he?"

My God, a guy like Pablo Prigioni is no longer appreciated by modern fans. Thank God there are still fans like me who realize he is a mjor component to a solid basketball team.

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10/22/2014  10:59 PM
go away
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10/22/2014  11:46 PM
Troll alert!
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10/23/2014  12:14 AM
This deserves one of my classic WTF???
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10/23/2014  2:14 AM
I am a big Pablo fan, but you really wanted 37 year old Pablo chasing down John Wall?
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10/23/2014  7:49 AM
FireWoodson wrote:Is this a race thing going on? Why the hell is Barry Larkin's kid getting a start and Pablo has now been moved to third string?

Fire Fisher! Bring in someone who appreciates hard, smart basketball.

Yes, you're right! Fisher is a racist, brought here by his white overseer to implement a black supremacist plan to take over MSG and then, the world!
I'm sure it's Barry Larkin's kid's fault that Pablo couldn't guard John Wall if they locked Wall in a parked car.


playa2, is that you?

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10/23/2014  8:15 AM
Not sure the point of this thread besides trying to get a rise out of people. However in regards to fisher there will be some growing pains because he hasnt coached before but i do think he can be a pretty good coach. He is a smart baskeball guy and he knows the system so i tink it can work out well
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10/23/2014  9:31 AM
FireWoodson wrote:Hey, at least that crack pipe allows me to see solid, good old fashioned, hard working, quality, smart basketball. It's been so long since we've seen that in the NBA that guys like you are confused by a player like Pablo. "Oh, he can't slam and dunk and make the ESPN highlights. What good is he?"

My God, a guy like Pablo Prigioni is no longer appreciated by modern fans. Thank God there are still fans like me who realize he is a mjor component to a solid basketball team.

LMBO I didn't know a slam and a dunk were two different things, thanks for educating me bro!

trust the kristaps-cess!
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10/23/2014  10:31 AM
Pablo is old and that is why he shouldn't start. He will break down if he exceeds 18 minutes a game. It's not like Pablo plays all 82 even in limited minutes Pablo has missed time. Unless you want to run him into the ground go a head start him.
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10/23/2014  1:25 PM
Vmart wrote:Pablo is old and that is why he shouldn't start. He will break down if he exceeds 18 minutes a game.
I see your point, but did you watch FIBA World Cup this summer? Pablo was clocking a hell of a lot more than 18 minutes a game.

He's a lot tougher than you guys give him credit for. No need to baby the guy. How did Woodson cutting down Stat's minutes work out last year? That crazy rotation Amar'e was in nearly killed his career. We sure don't want that happening to Pablo. The guy is as great a gamer as they come. Should he be putting in 35 minutes a game? Of course not. But the guy is a very valuable asset whose contribution comes from being on the court, not on the bench. His minutes should be far greater than Barry Larkin's kid.

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10/23/2014  1:52 PM
New name: FireFisher
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10/23/2014  1:55 PM
FireWoodson wrote:
Vmart wrote:Pablo is old and that is why he shouldn't start. He will break down if he exceeds 18 minutes a game.
I see your point, but did you watch FIBA World Cup this summer? Pablo was clocking a hell of a lot more than 18 minutes a game.

He's a lot tougher than you guys give him credit for. No need to baby the guy. How did Woodson cutting down Stat's minutes work out last year? That crazy rotation Amar'e was in nearly killed his career. We sure don't want that happening to Pablo. The guy is as great a gamer as they come. Should he be putting in 35 minutes a game? Of course not. But the guy is a very valuable asset whose contribution comes from being on the court, not on the bench. His minutes should be far greater than Barry Larkin's kid.

if Pablo was 30 he would play for 8 years here and be remembered as a great Knick. He's a stop gap player on this roster and the Knicks will benefit more from Larkin's growing pains than Pablo's leadership at 37 or 38 years old.

I have no doubt Pablo is the better player right now. There is more to what's going on here than that.

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10/23/2014  2:19 PM
FireWoodson wrote:OK, so Pete Sampras is out with a calf injury. Who does Fisher put in the starting lineup? Pablo? Nope. Barry Larkin's kid gets the job.

The reason why we hated Woodson was because that ass hole actually believed Raymond Felton was a better b-ball player than Pablo Prigioni! No matter what we saw on the court from the two, no matter that every statistic on Earth showed that the team was far more productive with Pablo on the court, Woodson always went with Felton. Woodson looked like the biggest dope on Earth.

And now our new coach is doing the same. Actually he is doing worse. He is starting a two year player over world class Pablo!

Fire Fisher!

Is this a race thing going on? Why the hell is Barry Larkin's kid getting a start and Pablo has now been moved to third string?

Fire Fisher! Bring in someone who appreciates hard, smart basketball.


I'm assuming you're just trolling by creating this thread for reaction - to see how far you can push buttons on ultimateknicks before you get banned.

But - I will respond to the point anyway....

If I'm the coach - During pre-season party of my evaluation is to give lesser known quantities on the roster longer looks to see what I got and who I can trust down the line. I also don't try to burn out a 37 year old PG who is a known quantity during games that don't count. Pablo is a smart player who can run the Triangle. He is not fast/agile enough to chase Wall around all game. Larkin is essentially a rookie who needs to show himself in both running the point as well as defending difficult 1's. Why not test him in the preseason?

Further - I could be wrong but I think Pablo was on the floor for most of the 4th Qtr /at the end of the game when it came down to the wire. As the saying goes....it's not who starts the game, but rather who finishes it.

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10/23/2014  2:39 PM
Let's also understand that Phil believes in having a change of pace lineup off the bench and that's what he sees in Larkin. The ability to play at a faster pace and do some things that Pablo can't do. Fish is following this same thought process. Pablo doesn't need to play since he's so experienced, but Larkin is benefitting from every minute he's been getting. Last night was a great test for Larkin. He actually acquitted himself well for most of the game. IMO he's making progress and that is a GREAT development for this team. NO one should ever be against this team developing young players who can contribute!!! I can't for the life of me understand how someone could not understand the value of us developing a young PG. SMDH
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10/23/2014  4:09 PM
First off, what is this "trying to get a reaction," "troll" business? I have a very fun, and very abrubt style. Do you prefer boring posts? Will a "Pablo Should Be Playing More" thread be more your style or do you not like a little bit of spice, difference? If you want boredom, don't read my threads. If you want to have a laugh and a good go, then read away.

Ah, yes, I sure did notice Pablo getting all the playing time in a close fourth quarter battle. That sure was a great sight to see. Woodson would have had Felton working on his tenth turnover out there in a close fourth quarter battle.

And I see your points about "let's see what Barry Larkin's kid has." But I also read my newspapers. Fisher has said that late in the preseason schedule he is now working to settle on a starting rotation. Why put Barry Larkin's kid out there with the starters? If our Pete Sampras is hobbled at anytime during the season, it should be Pablo getting the start. Why not send him out there last night with the starting five? Set the tone. This is our team.

As for Wall vs. Pablo...well, we meet them four times throughout the year, once in the very first week of the season. Pablo is going to have to go against him. Can't hide him from Wall all year long.

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10/23/2014  4:33 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/23/2014  4:36 PM
FireWoodson wrote:First off, what is this "trying to get a reaction," "troll" business? I have a very fun, and very abrubt style. Do you prefer boring posts? Will a "Pablo Should Be Playing More" thread be more your style or do you not like a little bit of spice, difference? If you want boredom, don't read my threads. If you want to have a laugh and a good go, then read away.

Ah, yes, I sure did notice Pablo getting all the playing time in a close fourth quarter battle. That sure was a great sight to see. Woodson would have had Felton working on his tenth turnover out there in a close fourth quarter battle.

And I see your points about "let's see what Barry Larkin's kid has." But I also read my newspapers. Fisher has said that late in the preseason schedule he is now working to settle on a starting rotation. Why put Barry Larkin's kid out there with the starters? If our Pete Sampras is hobbled at anytime during the season, it should be Pablo getting the start. Why not send him out there last night with the starting five? Set the tone. This is our team.

As for Wall vs. Pablo...well, we meet them four times throughout the year, once in the very first week of the season. Pablo is going to have to go against him. Can't hide him from Wall all year long.


Larkin is being tested and groomed for a bigger role because physically he can handle it and he gives us speed at the position. Larkin is fast and that can be useful with all the super fast PG's in the league. Pablo does the best he can but why not use Larkin who is blazingly quick to go against those fast PG's? This is how Larkin matches up with other top PG's in terms of speed and agility. Shump is on the list as well, which is also a plus for this team defensively.

    
No Step Max Vert
Height Weight Wingspan Reach Vert Reach Max Vert Reach Bench Agility Sprint
Shane Larkin - 2013 5' 11.5" 171 5' 10.75" 7' 5.5" 10' 4" 44.0 11' 1.5" 12 10.64 3.08
Derrick Rose - 2008 6' 2.5" 196 6' 8" 8' 2.5" 11' 1" 40.0 11' 6.5" 10 11.69 3.05
John Wall - 2010 6' 4" 196 6' 9.25" 8' 5.5 10' 11.5" 39.0 11' 8.5" NA 10.84 3.14
Iman Shumpert - 2011 6' 5.5" 222 6' 9.5" 8' 3.5" 11' 4" 42.0 11' 9.5" 18 11.10 3.18
Damian Lillard - 2012 6' 2.75" 189 6' 7.75" 7' 11.5" 10' 10" 39.5 11' 3" 13 11.15 3.34
Kemba Walker - 2011 6' 1" 184 6' 3.5" 7' 7.5" 10' 3.5" 39.5 10' 11" 7 10.87 3.16

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