holfresh wrote:A pro's pro..Solid, no flash..Just solid play...Add this young man to the core..Melo, Shump, Tim Jr., Acy and Jason Smith...

Jason is a perfect example of a Phil Jackson type of player. Some in the media and some fans here have made snide comments about Phil as a Prez/GM but his moves have made sense from a BB Perspective. He gave Fish players he could work with. Guys that have the kind of game he wants the team to exemplify. Jason is a good example of the no frills team player that can do all the basics.

Now in the next 3 games we really need to get down to set rotations but its got to happen. Now to me Shumpert has also garnered serious considerations to start from his play.

I mean from what we have seen

C-Dalembart
F Smith
F Melo
G Shumpert
G Calderon

Bargs back up 4/5 or Aldrich for FT/situational
Hardaway
Smith
Prigs

OUT
Amare
Outlaw
Acy--yes hes out
Early D league
Need to keep Larkin from the d league for now as u need 3 PGs

On basis this line up is not bad. In unit 1 there is more of a mobile 4 so we wont clog the lane as much with Acy out there. Melo is the main scorer and then you have some balance in an out. In the 2nd unit its 3 scorers with a PG who likes to distribute--obviusly there is mix and match but this is how I see it. Amare Acy and Larkin sit.

CrushAlot wrote:I agree that Smith should be the favorite to start at the 4. Dalembert has played really well. I don't see any reason to push him out. Smith just adds offense that the starting lineup needs.

Yeah enough experimentation. I think anyone can see what is what. Acy has been afforded a great deal of minutes and he has not boarded well enough hes not a high output scorer and with a scoring deficient team its time to let the real ballers play.

Splat wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:To tighten up the team I would just announce that Jason Smith has won the starting PF position. To me --even in two games--he has shown he is the best option for the team at PF unless moving Melo is put there.

Now in the next 3 games we really need to get down to set rotations but its got to happen. Now to me Shumpert has also garnered serious considerations to start from his play.

I mean from what we have seen

C-Dalembart
F Smith
F Melo
G Shumpert
G Calderon

Bargs back up 4/5 or Aldrich for FT/situational
Hardaway
Smith
Prigs

OUT
Amare
Outlaw
Acy--yes hes out
Early D league
Need to keep Larkin from the d league for now as u need 3 PGs

On basis this line up is not bad. In unit 1 there is more of a mobile 4 so we wont clog the lane as much with Acy out there. Melo is the main scorer and then you have some balance in an out. In the 2nd unit its 3 scorers with a PG who likes to distribute--obviusly there is mix and match but this is how I see it. Amare Acy and Larkin sit.

Read the tea leaves. Acy and Larkin continue to get time. Why? Because they are being considered and being given as much breathing room as possible to validate themselves.

They differ.

Larkin is being given the look-over due to a real need to have PG depth as Pablo is good, but not special. Larkin is a crack baby, but for now he is being nursed to health to see if he can a real toddler and then a badass little boy we can call our own. Different circumstances and they wouldn't even bother with him, but they are. As I said earlier, if Larkin keeps showing small steady improvements, he may continue to be kept in the mix. If he stagnates or regresses, yes, he's out in a heartbeat and they are shopping for a third or second string PG in a mid-season trade.

Acy is an outlier. He's the guy who is pretty much pegged as an energy player who is not expected to amount to much. Yet, he keeps getting minutes. He has already crossed the barrier of marginal and is now contending for real minutes. That you think he will not be in the rotation is not based on observation IMO. Everything indicates he has cracked the rotation and it is just a matter of how much play he will get. On what basis can you say the circumstances now indicate otherwise?

I'm going by what I see the franchise doing. That is what I see in play. It can change. Mostly based on those two players' performance.

CrushAlot wrote:

Splat wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:To tighten up the team I would just announce that Jason Smith has won the starting PF position. To me --even in two games--he has shown he is the best option for the team at PF unless moving Melo is put there.

Now in the next 3 games we really need to get down to set rotations but its got to happen. Now to me Shumpert has also garnered serious considerations to start from his play.

I mean from what we have seen

C-Dalembart
F Smith
F Melo
G Shumpert
G Calderon

Bargs back up 4/5 or Aldrich for FT/situational
Hardaway
Smith
Prigs

OUT
Amare
Outlaw
Acy--yes hes out
Early D league
Need to keep Larkin from the d league for now as u need 3 PGs

On basis this line up is not bad. In unit 1 there is more of a mobile 4 so we wont clog the lane as much with Acy out there. Melo is the main scorer and then you have some balance in an out. In the 2nd unit its 3 scorers with a PG who likes to distribute--obviusly there is mix and match but this is how I see it. Amare Acy and Larkin sit.

Read the tea leaves. Acy and Larkin continue to get time. Why? Because they are being considered and being given as much breathing room as possible to validate themselves.

They differ.

Larkin is being given the look-over due to a real need to have PG depth as Pablo is good, but not special. Larkin is a crack baby, but for now he is being nursed to health to see if he can a real toddler and then a badass little boy we can call our own. Different circumstances and they wouldn't even bother with him, but they are. As I said earlier, if Larkin keeps showing small steady improvements, he may continue to be kept in the mix. If he stagnates or regresses, yes, he's out in a heartbeat and they are shopping for a third or second string PG in a mid-season trade.

Acy is an outlier. He's the guy who is pretty much pegged as an energy player who is not expected to amount to much. Yet, he keeps getting minutes. He has already crossed the barrier of marginal and is now contending for real minutes. That you think he will not be in the rotation is not based on observation IMO. Everything indicates he has cracked the rotation and it is just a matter of how much play he will get. On what basis can you say the circumstances now indicate otherwise?

I'm going by what I see the franchise doing. That is what I see in play. It can change. Mostly based on those two players' performance.

I thought Larkin looked better tonight.

I think to start the season trying to win??? Prigs gives us more of a known product. id rather have Larkin as the third guy right now after watching him. He needs to study the game from a chair a bit--maybe if we can do it balance a few games in the D league playing 48 minutes when hes down there.

BRIGGS wrote:To tighten up the team I would just announce that Jason Smith has won the starting PF position. To me --even in two games--he has shown he is the best option for the team at PF unless moving Melo is put there.

Now in the next 3 games we really need to get down to set rotations but its got to happen. Now to me Shumpert has also garnered serious considerations to start from his play.

I mean from what we have seen

C-Dalembart
F Smith
F Melo
G Shumpert
G Calderon

Bargs back up 4/5 or Aldrich for FT/situational
Hardaway
Smith
Prigs

OUT
Amare
Outlaw
Acy--yes hes out
Early D league
Need to keep Larkin from the d league for now as u need 3 PGs

On basis this line up is not bad. In unit 1 there is more of a mobile 4 so we wont clog the lane as much with Acy out there. Melo is the main scorer and then you have some balance in an out. In the 2nd unit its 3 scorers with a PG who likes to distribute--obviusly there is mix and match but this is how I see it. Amare Acy and Larkin sit.

!!!! BRIGGS you finally agree with me!!!! lol

If not the Knicks know what they have in Prigioni. He can easily assume the #2 a spot once the season officially starts