Bonn1997 wrote:Teams with Melo have to play well enough to make helpful other players want to come

TeamBall wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Teams with Melo have to play well enough to make helpful other players want to come

I think that goes for pretty much everyone.

nixluva wrote:This isn't a bad collection of talent. They enough talent around Melo to win this division if they're prepared to play as a team. We've seen teams with one big star and a bunch of really good players win when they're well coached. The Mavs took the Spurs to 7 games and they don't have 3 superstars.

If Fish can get JR focused he can be a good #2 Behind Melo and we have other role players who could be coached up. It's more about how they function as a team. In this 1st season of the Phil n Fish Era we just need to set the foundation of good team ball.

Love your optimism but please don't tell me they have enough talent around him to win. "if JR ..."? How many times have I heard that.

This is a throw away season and if they win 45 games I will be shocked.

knickscity wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Teams with Melo have to play well enough to make helpful other players want to come

I think that goes for pretty much everyone.

Not everyone. For instance...the Bulls have little issue atracting quality players even with the health concerns of their best player.

Love doesnt have a desire to go to the Cavs before lebron went back...neither does Shawn Marion.

The only players that seem to be attracted to play with melo so far are former Nuggets whom he's already struggled with.

Teams with Lebron have seen success so yes he is desirable to play with (on top of being the best player in the world). However, even he had trouble attracting some big names his first time with the Cavs.

The Bulls teams without Rose have shown that they can still compete at a high level.

Melo's teams haven't done much so his teams don't look that attractive.

TeamBall wrote:

knickscity wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Teams with Melo have to play well enough to make helpful other players want to come

I think that goes for pretty much everyone.

Not everyone. For instance...the Bulls have little issue atracting quality players even with the health concerns of their best player.

Love doesnt have a desire to go to the Cavs before lebron went back...neither does Shawn Marion.

The only players that seem to be attracted to play with melo so far are former Nuggets whom he's already struggled with.

I don't understand where we disagree.

Teams with Lebron have seen success so yes he is desirable to play with (on top of being the best player in the world). However, even he had trouble attracting some big names his first time with the Cavs.

The Bulls teams without Rose have shown that they can still compete at a high level.

Melo's teams haven't done much so his teams don't look that attractive.

The point I made I thought were clear....the Bulls havent had their best player, but players coming in know they will get minutes to contribute in meaningful ways and they'll win games....thats attractive to some.

Players follow LeBron, not sure what players he couldnt attract...blame Gilbert for the deals he wouldn't pull like refusal to trade JJ Hickson.

knickscity wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

knickscity wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Teams with Melo have to play well enough to make helpful other players want to come

I think that goes for pretty much everyone.

Not everyone. For instance...the Bulls have little issue atracting quality players even with the health concerns of their best player.

Love doesnt have a desire to go to the Cavs before lebron went back...neither does Shawn Marion.

The only players that seem to be attracted to play with melo so far are former Nuggets whom he's already struggled with.

I don't understand where we disagree.

Teams with Lebron have seen success so yes he is desirable to play with (on top of being the best player in the world). However, even he had trouble attracting some big names his first time with the Cavs.

The Bulls teams without Rose have shown that they can still compete at a high level.

Melo's teams haven't done much so his teams don't look that attractive.

At which players look at Melo...sure they respect his game, but they arent pounding on the door to play with him.

The point I made I thought were clear....the Bulls havent had their best player, but players coming in know they will get minutes to contribute in meaningful ways and they'll win games....thats attractive to some.

Players follow LeBron, not sure what players he couldnt attract...blame Gilbert for the deals he wouldn't pull like refusal to trade JJ Hickson.

As for Lebron, he tried to recruit Bosh (and someone else I'm forgetting) to the Cavs but they didn't want to play in Cleveland. Not an indictment of Lebron as a player but it does show that sometimes the situation can be unattractive enough to deter some.

mreinman wrote:The knicks keep shytting away their money with dumb trades. Melo can't get teammates because we don't ever have cap space to get them.

Tyson signed here though that was really dumb on our part.