But the whole thing is a scam.

Dagger wrote:The judges are in on it, they don't really care if you're innocent or not.

And that's the thing. I know the entire system is nothing more than a rachet. That facts been reinforced from what I've heard from lawyers. They all tell me that they can't get me off BUT can somehow magically avoid my insurance from finding out while parring down my ticket cost for the nominal price of +$350. How much you want to bet that judges are getting a cut?

CrushAlot wrote:You shouldn't need a lawyer for traffic court. Usually if you go they reduce the fine or change the ticket so you don't get points.

I don't particularly care about the points, presuming that they are not linked to my insurance premiums going up. I've only got 6 points so far (all speeding tickets), which leaves me with 9 points worth of clearance. Besides, I've gone in once before and those lying ****suckers told me that if I plead "nolo contendere" that I'd receive no points and my insurance wouldn't find out. That obviously didn't happen and was somehow slapped with a $330 fine (with no prior offenses), while some white chick going just as fast only received $220 fine. The entire thing had left me disenchanted, which is why I'm adamant about not giving up any more money to these ****ers.

NardDogNation wrote:FYI, I got the ticket in GA and not Jersey. Either way, the advice helps because the court system is all the same flavors of ****. From what you guys told, I'm going to plead "not guilty" and take this **** to court. Governments are so incompetent that I'm banking on them ****ing up the paperwork after I appeal the decision.

where exactly in ga?

Your speeding and you keep getting pulled like your a victim!

municipalities need the revenue. Of course the Judges are in on it! The municipalities pay their salary!!!
The Laywers get clients, the court clerks get paid, etc etc..........

Your a smart fellow and you know all this but still you speed? You continue to do the activity then expect a different result?
Slow down, not because its the law, or the right thing to do, but because you have better things to do with your money!!!

If you are pulled over one thing that will help your case is to take out your wallet before the cop arrives and put it on the dashboard with the car keys and keep both hands on top of the steering wheel and look straight ahead. Some cops are very nervous when they pull someone over, not knowing what to expect. I got pulled over once for a red light violation and Im positive that doing this got me off with a warning. A doctor gave me this advice a long time ago and I never got a ticket when I did that.

Another thing that helps are those police stickers like a Sheriff's Association or PBA. I once got pulled over and the cop craned his neck to look over at the PBA sticker I had on the front left corner of my windshield, and let me off with a warning.

Haven't used a radar detector since the 80s but Im driving to the west coast in the next 4 months and Im thinking of getting this hidden radar detector/jammer. Worth checking out. Youtube has plenty of videos of it in action, one caught 2 cops from almost 4 miles away, at the bottom of a hill with this model.

http://www.radartest.com/BEL-STi-R-plus-review.asp

As for your ticket, I seriously doubt the judge will care if you are coming over a hill if you were that much over the speed limit, 10mph maybe. Good luck.

BasketballJones wrote:

About five miles back I had a brush with the CHP. Not stopped or pulled over: nothing routine. I always drive properly. A bit fast, perhaps, but always with consummate skill and a natural feel for the road that even cops recognize. No cop was ever born who isn't a sucker for a finely-executed hi-speed Controlled Drift all the way around one of those cloverleaf freeway interchanges.

Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. Your normal speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side when he sees the big red light behind him ... and then he will start apologizing, begging for mercy.

This is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop-heart. The thing to do -- when you're running along about a hundred or so and you suddenly find a red-flashing CHP-tracker on your trail -- what you want to do then is accelerate. Never pull over with the first siren-howl. Mash it down and make the bastard chase you at speeds up to 120 all the way to the next exit. He will follow. But he won't know what to make of your blinker-signal that says you're about to turn right.

This is to let him know you're looking for a proper place to pull off and talk ... keep signaling and hope for an off-ramp, one of those uphill side-loops with a sign saying "Max Speed 25" ... and the trick, at this point, is to suddenly leave the freeway and take him into the chute at no less than a hundred miles an hour.

He will lock his brakes about the same time you lock yours, but it will take him a moment to realize that he's about to make a 180-degree turn at this speed ... but you will be ready for it, braced for the Gs and the fast heel-toe work, and with any luck at all you will have come to a complete stop off the road at the top of the turn and be standing beside your automobile by the time he catches up.

He will not be reasonable at first ... but no matter. Let him calm down. He will want the first word. Let him have it. His brain will be in a turmoil: he may begin jabbering, or even pull his gun. Let him unwind; keep smiling. The idea is to show him that you were always in total control of yourself and your vehicle -- while he lost control of everything.

--Hunter S. Thompson "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas"

Now that's funny! Great quote.