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9/24/2014  5:33 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/24/2014  5:35 PM


here's some snips.


Q: When Knicks fans watch a Phil Jackson team, a Derek Fisher team play basketball, what do you want them to say about that team?
A: Unselfish. … They move the basketball. … They recognize situations on the court. … They’re intelligent, or have good group-think. … Defensively, they help each other out. And they’re scrappers.

Q: Is Kobe Bryant the model for Carmelo Anthony?
A: No. No one can approach that. I don’t expect anybody to be able to model their behavior after that, although Kobe modeled his behavior a lot about Michael Jordan, but he went beyond Michael in his attitude towards training, and I know Mike would probably question me saying that, but he did.

Q: Your first choice as head coach was Steve Kerr, but the Warriors offered more money. Did Knicks owner James Dolan support your pursuit of Kerr, and why do you think your second choice, Derek Fisher, was worth more money than your first choice?
A: That part is incorrect. However, having had a relationship with Steve that’s beyond just basketball and coach and player, we had discussions over the course of the year. A lot of ’em about running a system in the NBA. Is it possible that you can run this triangle system in the NBA? And I said, “I see no reason why not.” And I said, “A lot of it depends upon personnel and a lot of it depends upon mental attitude of players.” One of the discussion points that came up was as to what type of team you’re thinking about that could be very effective in the triangle, and he said, “Golden State Warriors.” And I said, “Oh that’s interesting, Mark Jackson’s there.” … And he said, “Yeah, I know.” But he said, “If that job was available, that would be kind of the perfect job for a triangle.” Well, once that job became available — I knew that he had a daughter at Cal, great volleyball player — and it really wasn’t more about that than about anything else. And so, even though he committed to me, I knew that the day that they fired Mark that that was where he was gonna be pursued. [Former Jets general manager Mike] Tannenbaum facilitated that, and that was OK with me, because I want [Kerr] to be happy in what he does. And I think probably Derek’s the right choice for this job, so I have no qualms, no problem with it at all, and I’m thankful that Jim wanted to bend. But I think I had to make a statement about what I wanted to pay a coach.

Q: How do you plan to try to get through to J.R. Smith to put an end to all his immature on- and off-the-court antics?
A: I don’t know if that’s possible or not. He might be one of those guys that’s a little bit like Dennis Rodman that has an outlier kind of side to him. But I’m gonna get to know him as we go along, and we’ll find a way to either make him a very useful player on our organization, or whatever.

Q: Where would bringing a championship back to New York rank among your achievements?
A: Wow, every one of those titles is such a precious thing. Even in the process of talking about these things that take a year to manifest themselves in a title, there is the journey, and the journey is what counts. So when you start this journey, it’s about the process. And the titles and the championships, they’re ephemeral in many ways. You win it, you feel great, and you’re on top, and there’s a wonderful euphoria that follows it. But it goes away. And then you have to start in July, rebuilding another championship. It’s something you understand it’s our goal, but it’s our goal starting July 1st — actually, when we draft. So it’s all this journey that begins including the summers, the injuries, the training camp, the rehabs — all these things these players are doing — and I hope that when we sat in our exit meetings last April, late April, that I could portray that to these players that are coming back.


My takeaways....

1)Phil isnt as high on this roster as people want to believe. It's not a finished product, dont treat it as such.
2)Bsically called JR Smith a lost cause, but he'll at least try to make him useful. I find the Rodamn comparison interesting...Rodman had antics but his performance never wavered. Phil isnt concerned as much about JR immaturity just the fact he's an inconsistent player. He's keeping it strictly on the court.
3)We all know melo is of no comparison to Kobe, but Phil has let the secret out....Melo isnt even close.
4)Phil has won so many titles, that he's more focused on the process that gets you there, and thats where his true happiness comes from now.

It seems though, and i truly dont literally take Phil's words as his true feelings, but he's throwin out some serious motivation for these guys...if they are smart enough to grasp.


http://nypost.com/2014/09/24/steve-serbys-qa-with-phil-jackson/

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9/24/2014  9:21 PM
Melo is all potential and always was... never realized it... yet.
So no comparison to winners of the past and of now.
Roster is ?????Melo??????... so what do you expect.
JR is not a spring chicken... he is not going to change.
And yes Phil has no attachment to any of this players... he is about the process of making losing club into winning.
Personal is irrelevant so we will see a lot of new faces come and go.
Upcoming season is an 82 games tryout.
So no expectations, just curiosity.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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9/24/2014  11:34 PM
the jr bit is great

we’ll find a way to either make him a very useful player on our organization, or whatever.
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9/24/2014  11:58 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/24/2014  11:58 PM
Just read the second part of the interview... WOW
This how I want our culture to be...
Zen is a coach on so many levels.
He moves this organization to some better place just by being around.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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9/25/2014  9:17 AM
yeah it's a pretty good read, and i don't like serby much. but it's all hope right now. there's something about the way he talks, his misuse of certain words and garbling of phrases, his syntax-- it isn't charming like berra or stengel.

i like the idea about finding players who bring luck with them. we haven't had anyone in the last 14 years like that, although i think fields, gallinari, and now this kid hardaway might have that. but then there are the bargnanis and melos of the world....

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9/25/2014  10:08 AM
Gotta love Big Chief Triangle
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9/25/2014  10:32 AM
dk7th wrote:yeah it's a pretty good read, and i don't like serby much. but it's all hope right now. there's something about the way he talks, his misuse of certain words and garbling of phrases, his syntax-- it isn't charming like berra or stengel.

i like the idea about finding players who bring luck with them. we haven't had anyone in the last 14 years like that, although i think fields, gallinari, and now this kid hardaway might have that. but then there are the bargnanis and melos of the world....

Lucky for us Gallo brought his brand of luck to Denver where he collect checks and looks nice in suits and hair gel.

It will be very interesting to follow the team starting next week with the new more open media policy and Phil's propensity for transparency and accountability.

Neat to see a hoops guy with full control building the Knicks. Looking forward.

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9/25/2014  12:03 PM
fishmike wrote:
dk7th wrote:yeah it's a pretty good read, and i don't like serby much. but it's all hope right now. there's something about the way he talks, his misuse of certain words and garbling of phrases, his syntax-- it isn't charming like berra or stengel.

i like the idea about finding players who bring luck with them. we haven't had anyone in the last 14 years like that, although i think fields, gallinari, and now this kid hardaway might have that. but then there are the bargnanis and melos of the world....

Lucky for us Gallo brought his brand of luck to Denver where he collect checks and looks nice in suits and hair gel.

It will be very interesting to follow the team starting next week with the new more open media policy and Phil's propensity for transparency and accountability.

Neat to see a hoops guy with full control building the Knicks. Looking forward.

Yes, I also like the luck Field's j brought to the team. Very scintillating watching a shot that had so much dependency on luck.

And yes, as any astute basketball mind knows, all Bargnani's and Melo's are practically interchangeable... on just about any level, but especially measurable things like luck.

Meanwhile, Dolan's visibility extends to possible half time shows, kazoos, and charity events. I like this new world.

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9/25/2014  12:06 PM
dk7th wrote:yeah it's a pretty good read, and i don't like serby much. but it's all hope right now. there's something about the way he talks, his misuse of certain words and garbling of phrases, his syntax-- it isn't charming like berra or stengel.

i like the idea about finding players who bring luck with them. we haven't had anyone in the last 14 years like that, although i think fields, gallinari, and now this kid hardaway might have that. but then there are the bargnanis and melos of the world....

Jeremy Lin

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9/25/2014  12:24 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
dk7th wrote:yeah it's a pretty good read, and i don't like serby much. but it's all hope right now. there's something about the way he talks, his misuse of certain words and garbling of phrases, his syntax-- it isn't charming like berra or stengel.

i like the idea about finding players who bring luck with them. we haven't had anyone in the last 14 years like that, although i think fields, gallinari, and now this kid hardaway might have that. but then there are the bargnanis and melos of the world....

Jeremy Lin

Yeah, that was some playoff run we had with him. Once in a lifetime.

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9/25/2014  1:05 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
dk7th wrote:yeah it's a pretty good read, and i don't like serby much. but it's all hope right now. there's something about the way he talks, his misuse of certain words and garbling of phrases, his syntax-- it isn't charming like berra or stengel.

i like the idea about finding players who bring luck with them. we haven't had anyone in the last 14 years like that, although i think fields, gallinari, and now this kid hardaway might have that. but then there are the bargnanis and melos of the world....

Jeremy Lin

dang how could i forget. that brings the roster of good luck players to

LIN
FIELDS
GALLINARI
HARDAWAY

who knows maybe this kid aldrich will be on the list.

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9/25/2014  1:41 PM
Landry Fields is a good luck player. Wow. $8.5mm a year for 2ppg and 2rebs is super lucky. Your in purple horseshoe blue diamonds green clovers lucky territory. I could see why some posters here love him.
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9/25/2014  2:02 PM
fishmike wrote:Landry Fields is a good luck player. Wow. $8.5mm a year for 2ppg and 2rebs is super lucky. Your in purple horseshoe blue diamonds green clovers lucky territory. I could see why some posters here love him.

his statement flew over your head. i'll let you know when the scales have fallen from your eyes.

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9/25/2014  4:58 PM
Luck is not when you get what you want, but when you did not lose what you have.
Knicks have nothing to lose so they have no other way but get lucky
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9/25/2014  5:23 PM
arkrud wrote:Luck is not when you get what you want, but when you did not lose what you have.
Knicks have nothing to lose so they have no other way but get lucky

ha. in that case the knicks have been pretty unlucky up until now.

who are you thinking is going to surprise and please the fanbase this season?

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9/25/2014  5:23 PM
dk7th wrote:
fishmike wrote:Landry Fields is a good luck player. Wow. $8.5mm a year for 2ppg and 2rebs is super lucky. Your in purple horseshoe blue diamonds green clovers lucky territory. I could see why some posters here love him.

his statement flew over your head. i'll let you know when the scales have fallen from your eyes.


What luck did Fields bring with him to Toronto?
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9/25/2014  7:13 PM
TeamBall wrote:
dk7th wrote:
fishmike wrote:Landry Fields is a good luck player. Wow. $8.5mm a year for 2ppg and 2rebs is super lucky. Your in purple horseshoe blue diamonds green clovers lucky territory. I could see why some posters here love him.

his statement flew over your head. i'll let you know when the scales have fallen from your eyes.


What luck did Fields bring with him to Toronto?

yes or no question: was he not a terrific value and a great knick as a rookie prior to february 2011? reminder he was the 39th pick in 2010.

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9/25/2014  7:14 PM
dk7th wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
dk7th wrote:
fishmike wrote:Landry Fields is a good luck player. Wow. $8.5mm a year for 2ppg and 2rebs is super lucky. Your in purple horseshoe blue diamonds green clovers lucky territory. I could see why some posters here love him.

his statement flew over your head. i'll let you know when the scales have fallen from your eyes.


What luck did Fields bring with him to Toronto?

yes or no question: was he not a terrific value and a great knick as a rookie prior to february 2011? reminder he was the 39th pick in 2010.


So you're not gonna answer my question?
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9/25/2014  7:17 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/25/2014  7:18 PM
TeamBall wrote:
dk7th wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
dk7th wrote:
fishmike wrote:Landry Fields is a good luck player. Wow. $8.5mm a year for 2ppg and 2rebs is super lucky. Your in purple horseshoe blue diamonds green clovers lucky territory. I could see why some posters here love him.

his statement flew over your head. i'll let you know when the scales have fallen from your eyes.


What luck did Fields bring with him to Toronto?

yes or no question: was he not a terrific value and a great knick as a rookie prior to february 2011? reminder he was the 39th pick in 2010.


So you're not gonna answer my question?

that's irrelevant. who the **** cares about toronto dude? i am talking about his tenure as a knick!!

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9/25/2014  7:27 PM
zen and art of motorcycle maintenance sucks it's one of those hyped books

it surprised me that philjax was into that stuff, i thought he was more complex development,

but whatever works.

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