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gunsnewing
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Ok maybe not

But how do you spend so much money in the off season and you Offensive Line is worse than last year? How is that even possible? What are you the Yankees?

Might be time to blow up the Giants too

Really really dark times in New York sports

Heck the Knicks & Mets are in best shape!

Fire Reece
Fire Coughlin
Both
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Giants will win the Supebowl
Giants will miss the playoffs again
Eli will throw another 25 picks
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gunsnewing
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9/9/2014  11:16 AM
Oh Thank god for hockey and the Rangers
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9/9/2014  11:27 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Oh Thank god for hockey and the Rangers

lol... never thought I'd see the day that someone said that

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9/9/2014  11:29 AM
i think Jerry Reese is so friggin overrated... he got a solid roster and nailed his first draft but that was because he was formerly the scouting director and you SHOULD nail a draft if you were formerly in charge of scouting.

He has shown no ability to build a fleshed out roster

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9/9/2014  11:30 AM
reese did a great job his first couple of seasons.

i don't understand how the giants can't prioritize their offensive line and tight end corps. seems like they have always won with a great o-line and tight ends. and why is their secondary always so lousy? i don't get it.

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9/9/2014  11:35 AM
agreed

The one positive last night was the TE Larry Donnell looked pretty good with Eli. I was pissed they didn't bring in a top notch TE, Most great teams today have a super athletic TE that causes all kinds of matchup problems. Eli would benefit with a major safety blanket since he is not very mobile.

Hopefully Donnell has enough athleticism and hopefully Corey Washington provides Eli with that big target he hasn't had since Plexico
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9/9/2014  11:40 AM    LAST EDITED: 9/9/2014  1:17 PM
dk7th wrote:reese did a great job his first couple of seasons.

i don't understand how the giants can't prioritize their offensive line and tight end corps. seems like they have always won with a great o-line and tight ends. and why is their secondary always so lousy? i don't get it.

I think it all starts at the offensive line. Giants had a good one when they won in 07 & again in 08 until Plexico shot himself. You don't ever want to hear about the O-line. If you don't hear anything it means they are doing their job.

Eli was under pressure all night. How is that possible. And how did we draft a WR over O-Line or TE?

Reece really does leave you scratching your head

They spent so much money on the secondary and they were awful last night.

They have ZERO pass rushers which has been their strength. Zero because JPP looks finished

Running game should be better but man what a mess
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9/9/2014  11:44 AM
Also Eli's days in New York might be numbered. He is too much of a cap hit for his inefficient production and age
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9/9/2014  12:10 PM
I think Reese has done a piss poor job but with the 2 SuperBowl rings I am giving them this year. In the offseason if another losing season then he should be let go.
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9/9/2014  12:15 PM
Giants aren't a bad organization. You gotta stop talking Like they are the Knicks. Giants just won a superbowl in 2011. Take a chill pill
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9/9/2014  12:24 PM
Detroit missed the playoffs last year too

They have a better offensive coordinator
better QB
better WRs
better RBs
better TEs
better front 7 on defense

The Giants have a long road ahead of them
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9/9/2014  12:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/26/2014  10:41 AM
No but I do think they should rehire Gilbride. Giving a job to an unproven commodity in MacDoo was not a good move. I do think Reece should be fired though.

I take that back.
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9/9/2014  1:04 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
dk7th wrote:reese did a great job his first couple of seasons.

i don't understand how the giants can't prioritize their offensive line and tight end corps. seems like they have always won with a great o-line and tight ends. and why is their secondary always so lousy? i don't get it.

I think it all starts at the offensive line. Giants had a good one when they won in 07 & again in 08 until Plexico shot himself. You don't ever want to hear about the O-line. If you don't hear anything it means they are doing their job.

Eli was under pressure all night. How is that possible. And how did we draft a WR over O-Line or TE?

Reece really does leave you scrating your head

They spent so much money on the secondary and they were awful last night.

They have ZERO pass rushers which has been their strength. Zero because JPP looks finished

Running game should be better but man what a mess

I can't say I followed the draft, but if your problem is on the o line - and last year they proved it - then why not use every pick on an offensive lineman - maybe you'll find a gem in there somewhere.

Instead, they have turd.
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9/9/2014  2:15 PM
Reese should have taken Zach Martin with our pick, but he went for a WR. As previously mentioned, I'm willing to give Ben and Eli a short leash to prove this new offense can work.

Our defense sucked last night, but I think they will be damn good this year. I'm giving them a flyer for now as well.

I think we have a potentially solid run-stopping defense and a potentially impregnable secondary. Pass rush leaves something to be desired.

Jennings looks legit. The new TE Donnell made some nifty catches last night.

As for Eli, he DID win two Superbowls. If he keeps making stupid mistakes by the fourth or fifth game, I'm ready to hand things over to Nassib, who looked impressive in the pre-season.
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9/9/2014  6:46 PM
What the...
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9/9/2014  10:43 PM
gunsnewing wrote:What the...

Ungrateful bastard. He should have done us all a favor and jumped in the flames.
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9/9/2014  10:47 PM
Haha seriously
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9/10/2014  6:32 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Detroit missed the playoffs last year too

They have a better offensive coordinator
better QB
better WRs
better RBs
better TEs
better front 7 on defense

The Giants have a long road ahead of them

Their special teams and secondary was better too. In 2011 the Giants were better than everybody. This is sports. Giants always do right by us. Teams are entitled to have bad stretches.

I would say we are in need of a new quarterback. Giants need to get healthy and gain some chemistry. Next draft they need to stockpile the line in both sides. We need to draft a qb too.... though I think this kid nassib will get his chance soon if Eli keeps regressing

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9/10/2014  7:10 AM
OMG, what will media ride us to think if Knicks start 3-10?
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9/14/2014  3:57 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/14/2014  3:57 PM
0-2 smh

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9/14/2014  4:14 PM
Wow, I tuned in for some of the second half and Cruz had 3 drops (2 costly that I saw) and then another receiver had a huge drop towards the end as well.
Key fumbles. What a disaster of a game, and Eli was REALLY ON...

In other news, life goes on...

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