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chewy
Posts: 20185 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/4/2011 Member: #3689 |
7/15/2014 11:43 AM
Yes, it was a very good read.
John Starks is the greatest
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NYKBocker
Posts: 38419 Alba Posts: 474 Joined: 1/14/2003 Member: #377 USA |
7/15/2014 11:46 AM
Awesome article. Loved it. No mention of Jeremy Lin debacle though.
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
7/15/2014 12:06 PM
I have been comparing Melo to Kobe (offensively) for years. Nice.
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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azamatbagatov
Posts: 20336 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/28/2007 Member: #1713 |
7/15/2014 1:39 PM
Great read. Very fair.
"I want to leave a legacy." ~ Isiah Thomas
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knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
7/15/2014 2:03 PM
azamatbagatov wrote:Great read. Very fair. and pretty damn accurate ES
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
7/15/2014 2:07 PM
We won't see Olympic Melo since we don't have the olympic teammates but I hope that someone on the team can create off the ball looks for him. That is where he shines and will give him the best chance to remain healthy
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39942 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
7/15/2014 2:11 PM LAST EDITED: 7/15/2014 2:12 PM
dk7th wrote:he left out a couple of big facts: That and his belief that Phil forced Melo to take slightly less than the max. Melo had already stated that he was willing to do this last season. Honestly, I don't think the pay cut he took was substantial enough to mention, one way or the other. Also, Simmons should have mentioned that Melo would've been taking a risk going to Chicago. Derrick Rose hasn't been an impact player for two seasons and no one knew Miami's big three was going to implode. Still a good article. Better than the other crap he's thrown together the past two months. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
7/15/2014 2:17 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:dk7th wrote:he left out a couple of big facts: The Bulls could have contended even without Rose. so here is what phil is thinking ....
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OasisBU
Posts: 24138 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 6/18/2002 Member: #257 USA |
7/15/2014 2:19 PM
Well it sounds like Melo is saying all the right things:
1) He wants to be in NY 2) He believes in system basketball 3) He believes in Phil So maybe he is ready to turn over a new leaf and embrace the triangle. I can see why certain players might night like MDA's system, but Phil's triangle is a proven commodity that has netted him championships with Jordan, Kobe, and Shaq. All three players are legends, Phil is a legend, etc. You can argue semantics like Phil has had the best player in the game every time he won but that is not the point. His system works when executed effectively and he has come to NY to install it along with a winning culture. He is bringing in his people (all of whom have a history of winning) and he has made it clear he thinks Melo can be the cornerstone of a winning franchise. At the end of the day nobody can predict how this will all work out, but Melo is a great basketball player that needs something/someone to push him to the next level - I believe Phil Jackson (and his team) is the right person to make it happen. "If at first you don't succeed, then maybe you just SUCK." Kenny Powers
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tkf
Posts: 36487 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 8/13/2001 Member: #87 |
7/15/2014 2:21 PM
I read this earlier.. he was playing devils advocate a bit but in the end he is right. carmelo blew it twice.. when he forced his way to NY and not going to the bulls roster..
Although he correctly pointed out carmelo needs a 2011 mavs type of team, dirk was just a better player than carmelo and even that team came together under all the right circumstances... If his only hope is getting that type of team, then he is chasing a unicorn... going with the bulls made so much sense.. but carmelo is looking for money.. not rings it seems.. Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
TKF
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tkf
Posts: 36487 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 8/13/2001 Member: #87 |
7/15/2014 2:24 PM
dk7th wrote:he left out a couple of big facts: He also sold Bernard a bit short even though he said he was a King fan.. AS I am a HUGE king fan myself. Bernard was ridiculously efficient and bernard also played in an era where you coul handcheck and basically beat guys up.. and he still dominated.. He tried using how todays athletes are better and the defenses more complex? I also find that odd as well because all of simmons choices of GREAT players are from that era basically... and todays rules makes scoring easier.. Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
TKF
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
7/15/2014 2:27 PM
tkf wrote:I read this earlier.. he was playing devils advocate a bit but in the end he is right. carmelo blew it twice.. when he forced his way to NY and not going to the bulls roster.. So he should have gone to the Bulls for 73 million instead of resigning where he lives at 122? C'mon, get real. I am sure you may have done this since for you its probably not about "the money" but the rest of us are taking the 122. Would have been nice if he gave us a bigger discount though. so here is what phil is thinking ....
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
7/15/2014 2:29 PM
tkf wrote:I read this earlier.. he was playing devils advocate a bit but in the end he is right. carmelo blew it twice.. when he forced his way to NY and not going to the bulls roster.. You're making valid points here, but I think it's still possible for Phil to be successful in putting together a team that can perform at a high level with the 2011 Mavs type of team. It's not just about the players but also the way the team plays. This team is going to be playing a very team oriented style of ball and we have some good role players that should excel in that style of play. Then it's up to Melo to do his part in that system. I think it can work. We've never seen Melo play in such a refined system as this. It could add a very nice boost to his performance and his teammates. Just seeing the Kid Knicks quickly applying the principles gives hope. |
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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
7/15/2014 2:29 PM
I love that...Melo is a "What if" story. Summoned it up beautifully
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39942 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
7/15/2014 2:33 PM
mreinman wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:dk7th wrote:he left out a couple of big facts: They could have but they wouldn't have been a sure thing. A returning LeBron would have put Miami over the top spot and Indiana, barring a disastrous off season, would still likely be number two. Even if the Bulls team makes it out the east, they're not beating any of the top Western teams without Rose. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
7/15/2014 2:42 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:mreinman wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:dk7th wrote:he left out a couple of big facts: Certainly a better chance with him but very competitive without him as they have shown. Now add Melo to that mix and who knows. so here is what phil is thinking ....
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