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StarksEwing1
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7/13/2014  7:41 PM
Obviously im most happy with all teh young talent Phil has brought in. Getting larkin in the mavs deal might end up being the best thing in the long run along with Early. wathcing the summer league i have really impressed with hardaway and early the most along with Cole aldrich. Hardaway i expected to look good since he was one of teh better rookies last year. I liked taht he bulked up a bit and he is also mentoring teh young guys during the game. Needs to work on his defense and ball handling but he has a great mental makeup. early i felt was teh steal of the draft. Kid can flat out shoot, is athletic,and good defender. Needs to work on driving the hoop. Aldrich also looks improved and can help down low. all in all im happy Phil is getting some young talent in here that wlll help
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7/13/2014  7:50 PM
I hope fisher is more interested in playing the youth than Woodson was. I want to see them getting sustained minutes ahead of people like JR. Hopefully we get rid of JR soon and let the kids play. I really want to see NY basketball to develop an identity instead of looking like a ragtag bunch of overpaid misfits we have been for the last decade or so. If Melo buys in and tries to facilitate for these guys and make them better he can reap the benefits in a year or two. HE will still get his shots in the triangle, but he needs to ficus on letting the kids play and learn instead of trying to outscore Durant for individual scoring titles.
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7/13/2014  7:51 PM
Sounds like a 70s R&B band. Im psyched about having prospects as well. One more reason why I liked the trade that brought them here. Glad to hear that Hardaway is showing some leadership.

Sometimes younger players aren't ready to crack the rotation but they're good enough to push the vets in practice.

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7/13/2014  7:52 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Sounds like a 70s R&B band. Im psyched about having prospects as well. One more reason why I liked the trade that brought them here. Glad to hear that Hardaway is showing some leadership.

Sometimes younger players aren't ready to crack the rotation but they're good enough to push the vets in practice.

we know hardawya will be an important piece. I think early will as well, maybe not a starter yet but a good gy coming off the bench
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7/13/2014  7:55 PM
I agree that it's VERY exciting how Phil has added to our youth movement. LOVED the Early pick. I think he's a perfect fit for the Triangle. He's a smart kid and a team oriented player. He's the kind of kid that should play better in the NBA as he spreads his wings more. He doesn't try to do too much and sticks to what he's great at as opposed to forcing things.

Larkin I think is gonna have to get stronger, but his speed is an asset. He makes good use of it. He played some NBA games and did well.

Cole should have a breakout year with more minutes this year. He should finally get a chance to show what he can do.

Thanasis is raw but love his energy. He's gonna be a beast defensively and that's really all I care about at this point.

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7/13/2014  8:09 PM
nixluva wrote:I agree that it's VERY exciting how Phil has added to our youth movement. LOVED the Early pick. I think he's a perfect fit for the Triangle. He's a smart kid and a team oriented player. He's the kind of kid that should play better in the NBA as he spreads his wings more. He doesn't try to do too much and sticks to what he's great at as opposed to forcing things.

Larkin I think is gonna have to get stronger, but his speed is an asset. He makes good use of it. He played some NBA games and did well.

Cole should have a breakout year with more minutes this year. He should finally get a chance to show what he can do.

Thanasis is raw but love his energy. He's gonna be a beast defensively and that's really all I care about at this point.

Yes cole will have a break out year this kid is a big upgrade to Tyson over rated chandler.. He's a rebounding, shot blocking machine,great passer, high bball iq, cole is the best center on the roster hands down. He'll be the talk of the town!

Thjr is a all star in the making nuf said!

Early was the best pick up in the trade .. He can really shoot and defend Clyde called him b king the other day!!!

The Greek should stay he's a great defender and elevates everyone's defense when he's on the floor! You can't teach that

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7/13/2014  8:13 PM
Larking looks like an NBA PG to me. He can change the pace of the game. Question is how does his jumper look? Is he gonna consistent or inconsistent? I see some Mike Bibby in him.

Chandler trade was really an impressive trade. Overnight we added 3 intriguing youngsters to the roster. Question is who will develop, who's a role player and who's a trade chip?

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7/13/2014  10:23 PM
fitzfarm wrote:
nixluva wrote:I agree that it's VERY exciting how Phil has added to our youth movement. LOVED the Early pick. I think he's a perfect fit for the Triangle. He's a smart kid and a team oriented player. He's the kind of kid that should play better in the NBA as he spreads his wings more. He doesn't try to do too much and sticks to what he's great at as opposed to forcing things.

Larkin I think is gonna have to get stronger, but his speed is an asset. He makes good use of it. He played some NBA games and did well.

Cole should have a breakout year with more minutes this year. He should finally get a chance to show what he can do.

Thanasis is raw but love his energy. He's gonna be a beast defensively and that's really all I care about at this point.

Yes cole will have a break out year this kid is a big upgrade to Tyson over rated chandler.. He's a rebounding, shot blocking machine,great passer, high bball iq, cole is the best center on the roster hands down. He'll be the talk of the town!

Thjr is a all star in the making nuf said!

Early was the best pick up in the trade .. He can really shoot and defend Clyde called him b king the other day!!!

The Greek should stay he's a great defender and elevates everyone's defense when he's on the floor! You can't teach that

Knicks are on the up and up

Its these silly expectation from knick fans that make it so hard for the kids to succeed here.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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7/13/2014  11:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/13/2014  11:30 PM
I like Larkin, but is he better than Pablo? I haven't seen much in the summer league games that makes him stand out, other than he's shorter than advertised. He's not 5'11 And that may be a problem because teams will go at him every time. Same with Pablo and Calderon, because they are not known for defense. Ii looks like our weakness is the same as last year....PG and Center....
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7/13/2014  11:40 PM
blkexec wrote:I like Larkin, but is he better than Pablo? I haven't seen much in the summer league games that makes him stand out, other than he's shorter than advertised. He's not 5'11 And that may be a problem because teams will go at him every time. Same with Pablo and Calderon, because they are not known for defense. Ii looks like our weakness is the same as last year....PG and Center....

Larkin is in fact measured to be 5-10.25 without shoes and 5-11.5 in shoes. They had no reason to lie at the combine so despite how he may look to you, that is his exact measurement. He's legitimately fast and legitimately had a 44" vert. He's clearly more talented than Pablo physically. Larkin gets steals and he's fast on the break. He's just not a tall, physical or long PG. This is why they project him as a backup PG.

PG and Center are not going to be weaknesses this year. You seem to have no concept of how the Triangle works if you think PG is gonna be a problem. There are very few good defensive PG's and thank goodness the triangle isn't PG dependent. You can play with a guard like Shump if you need defense. The PG doesn't really do much in the offense in terms of handling the ball. We may not be world beaters at Center but we have bigs that should be able to hand in there. We just don't have anyone special, which is only going to be addressed at the earliest at the trade deadline most likely.

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7/13/2014  11:45 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:I hope fisher is more interested in playing the youth than Woodson was. I want to see them getting sustained minutes ahead of people like JR. Hopefully we get rid of JR soon and let the kids play. I really want to see NY basketball to develop an identity instead of looking like a ragtag bunch of overpaid misfits we have been for the last decade or so. If Melo buys in and tries to facilitate for these guys and make them better he can reap the benefits in a year or two. HE will still get his shots in the triangle, but he needs to ficus on letting the kids play and learn instead of trying to outscore Durant for individual scoring titles.

Dude veteran teams don't play rookies unless they earned it, or a starter gets injured. Jr is not garbage, woodson is garbage. No ones sitting through growing pains unless they absolutely have to.

You got couple of solid rookies, let them develop in practice, not in no game.

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7/13/2014  11:47 PM
mreinman wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
nixluva wrote:I agree that it's VERY exciting how Phil has added to our youth movement. LOVED the Early pick. I think he's a perfect fit for the Triangle. He's a smart kid and a team oriented player. He's the kind of kid that should play better in the NBA as he spreads his wings more. He doesn't try to do too much and sticks to what he's great at as opposed to forcing things.

Larkin I think is gonna have to get stronger, but his speed is an asset. He makes good use of it. He played some NBA games and did well.

Cole should have a breakout year with more minutes this year. He should finally get a chance to show what he can do.

Thanasis is raw but love his energy. He's gonna be a beast defensively and that's really all I care about at this point.

Yes cole will have a break out year this kid is a big upgrade to Tyson over rated chandler.. He's a rebounding, shot blocking machine,great passer, high bball iq, cole is the best center on the roster hands down. He'll be the talk of the town!

Thjr is a all star in the making nuf said!

Early was the best pick up in the trade .. He can really shoot and defend Clyde called him b king the other day!!!

The Greek should stay he's a great defender and elevates everyone's defense when he's on the floor! You can't teach that

Knicks are on the up and up

Its these silly expectation from knick fans that make it so hard for the kids to succeed here.

Dude are you even a knick fan? Every post from you is negative ... You were prob on the heat bandwagon why don't you go root for the cavs and be really disappointed... I'm excited we fixed a lot of holes on this roster... If you hate everyone on this team then get the hell off this site and find a cavs or nets forum to bitch and be a Debbie downer

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7/13/2014  11:51 PM
Mrreimman is drinking to much hateraid man .. If you hate this team then what are you doing here
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7/14/2014  12:03 AM
fitzfarm wrote:
mreinman wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
nixluva wrote:I agree that it's VERY exciting how Phil has added to our youth movement. LOVED the Early pick. I think he's a perfect fit for the Triangle. He's a smart kid and a team oriented player. He's the kind of kid that should play better in the NBA as he spreads his wings more. He doesn't try to do too much and sticks to what he's great at as opposed to forcing things.

Larkin I think is gonna have to get stronger, but his speed is an asset. He makes good use of it. He played some NBA games and did well.

Cole should have a breakout year with more minutes this year. He should finally get a chance to show what he can do.

Thanasis is raw but love his energy. He's gonna be a beast defensively and that's really all I care about at this point.

Yes cole will have a break out year this kid is a big upgrade to Tyson over rated chandler.. He's a rebounding, shot blocking machine,great passer, high bball iq, cole is the best center on the roster hands down. He'll be the talk of the town!

Thjr is a all star in the making nuf said!

Early was the best pick up in the trade .. He can really shoot and defend Clyde called him b king the other day!!!

The Greek should stay he's a great defender and elevates everyone's defense when he's on the floor! You can't teach that

Knicks are on the up and up

Its these silly expectation from knick fans that make it so hard for the kids to succeed here.

Dude are you even a knick fan? Every post from you is negative ... You were prob on the heat bandwagon why don't you go root for the cavs and be really disappointed... I'm excited we fixed a lot of holes on this roster... If you hate everyone on this team then get the hell off this site and find a cavs or nets forum to bitch and be a Debbie downer

You are just a bit insane but its cool.

Did I say that I hated anyone?

Does that mean that I am dumb enough to call THJ the next reggie miller and Cole a 12/12 guy?

reign in your silly expectations and hope that some of our kids can be good "rotation" players.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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7/14/2014  12:32 AM
Lol I'm not the one who thinks bird man is a excellent team
Player lol that's like saying chandler is a great team player... Thjr can stroke it like Reggie his release reminds me of Reggie.. He had a very similar rookie year to Reggie .. Reggie wasn't a good defender or rebounder till later in his career .. Just like thjr.. I'm not saying his career is going to be like Reggie's but I wouldn't be shocked if it did.. Thjr is going to be our 6 th man this year he'll average Reggie like numbers for his second year 16+ points 3 Rebs-2-3 assists ... But I don't know too much I've just been watching and playing bball since 1983 ...

Also cole Aldrich is the man I've been following this kid since his days in Kansas .. Big man take time to develop he was the best rebounding shot blocking defensive center in college.. It's his time to shine .. He averaged a double double when he got real playing time last year and it seems to have carried over into summer league... But again I don't know anything I've only been watching bball since 1983..

I can tell you thjr will be on a few all star teams mark my words
I can tell you cole Aldrich will break out this year and be the talk of the town
I always thought Tyson chandler was one of the most over rated players In the nba
And I feel the same way about the bird man wayyyyy over rated anyone who can't shoot or dribble and only averages 5 points and 6 rebounds a game is not a good player.. It's called a scrub getting minutes,just like Tyson

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7/14/2014  12:39 AM
fitzfarm wrote:Lol I'm not the one who thinks bird man is a excellent team
Player lol that's like saying chandler is a great team player... Thjr can stroke it like Reggie his release reminds me of Reggie.. He had a very similar rookie year to Reggie .. Reggie wasn't a good defender or rebounder till later in his career .. Just like thjr.. I'm not saying his career is going to be like Reggie's but I wouldn't be shocked if it did.. Thjr is going to be our 6 th man this year he'll average Reggie like numbers for his second year 16+ points 3 Rebs-2-3 assists ... But I don't know too much I've just been watching and playing bball since 1983 ...

Also cole Aldrich is the man I've been following this kid since his days in Kansas .. Big man take time to develop he was the best rebounding shot blocking defensive center in college.. It's his time to shine .. He averaged a double double when he got real playing time last year and it seems to have carried over into summer league... But again I don't know anything I've only been watching bball since 1983..

I can tell you thjr will be on a few all star teams mark my words
I can tell you cole Aldrich will break out this year and be the talk of the town
I always thought Tyson chandler was one of the most over rated players In the nba
And I feel the same way about the bird man wayyyyy over rated anyone who can't shoot or dribble and only averages 5 points and 6 rebounds a game is not a good player.. It's called a scrub getting minutes,just like Tyson

oy vey!

I give up.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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7/14/2014  12:47 AM
mreinman wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Lol I'm not the one who thinks bird man is a excellent team
Player lol that's like saying chandler is a great team player... Thjr can stroke it like Reggie his release reminds me of Reggie.. He had a very similar rookie year to Reggie .. Reggie wasn't a good defender or rebounder till later in his career .. Just like thjr.. I'm not saying his career is going to be like Reggie's but I wouldn't be shocked if it did.. Thjr is going to be our 6 th man this year he'll average Reggie like numbers for his second year 16+ points 3 Rebs-2-3 assists ... But I don't know too much I've just been watching and playing bball since 1983 ...

Also cole Aldrich is the man I've been following this kid since his days in Kansas .. Big man take time to develop he was the best rebounding shot blocking defensive center in college.. It's his time to shine .. He averaged a double double when he got real playing time last year and it seems to have carried over into summer league... But again I don't know anything I've only been watching bball since 1983..

I can tell you thjr will be on a few all star teams mark my words
I can tell you cole Aldrich will break out this year and be the talk of the town
I always thought Tyson chandler was one of the most over rated players In the nba
And I feel the same way about the bird man wayyyyy over rated anyone who can't shoot or dribble and only averages 5 points and 6 rebounds a game is not a good player.. It's called a scrub getting minutes,just like Tyson

oy vey!

I give up.
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Lol Keep drinking your hateraid on jr,melo,thjr,Aldrich,the entire knick roster .. And keep praising the birdman and Tyson lol birdman a excellent team player lol that's just laughable ...

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7/14/2014  12:49 AM
Lol Keep drinking your hateraid on jr,melo,thjr,Aldrich,the entire knick roster .. And keep praising the birdman and Tyson lol birdman a excellent team player lol that's just laughable ...
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7/14/2014  12:56 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/14/2014  12:57 AM
fitzfarm wrote:Lol Keep drinking your hateraid on jr,melo,thjr,Aldrich,the entire knick roster .. And keep praising the birdman and Tyson lol birdman a excellent team player lol that's just laughable ...

fitz, have you ever dabbled with advanced stats? Prolly not ... just a guess.

And btw, I am the biggest Cole supporter and ranted all last season about him not being used by our bonehead coach. I hated Tyson more than anyone (though it was due to attitude and how much he costed us).

How is your boy Jeremy Tyler (who I was never high on)? Supe-ah-stah? not so much.

Lol.

Glad that Reggie is on our side this time.

Edit: And who does not love JR? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaT DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE!

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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7/14/2014  1:03 AM
Yes I have taken statistics aced it and look at Reggie's rookie year and compare it to thjr .. Very similar.. Jt4 just turned 23 big men take time to develop he has all the skills in the world.. He needs to work on his balance and should be in yoga
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