NardDogNation wrote:It seems that everyone is all gravy and sunshine about the guy but the unfolding of events this offseason have been alarming to me. We've all talked about the lure of playing for Phil Jackson, myself included, but the hype has yet to intersect reality. How well did it work out in our pursuit of Steve Kerr?

Now, I'm starting to hear confirmations that Pau Gasol, an offseason target of ours, is taking a MLE offer from a Bulls team that can't offer him much more than we can. To add insult to injury, they'll still have Taj Gibson and are adding Nikola Mirotic, which leaves very little playing time for a player of his caliber.

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't a big reason for acquiring Jose Calderon, was to serve as a lure for Pau Gasol because they were besties? So what happened to that plan exactly? Now with Pau Gasol in Chicago, who is going to lure Marc Gasol to New York in this ill-conceived, basketball rendition of Ocean's Eleven?

At this point, I'm not very impressed with the dude. If he can't get his own people that he's had years of rapport with, how the hell is he going go attract the Kevin Durant's, Anthony Davis' and the ever shrinking pool of superstars/inevitable superstars to New York? If you want to know why Carmelo hasn't re-signed yet, it probably would have something to do with that and the fact that a Jose Calderon is cause for celebration for this franchise.

I SAID This from the start.. phil is a GREAT coach, but we know nothing about him as a GM... I said this!!

one thing is true, he came into a messy situation here and even the best GM would have a tough time getting this ship on a solid course again.... If phil was not brought here to rebuild then It's back to business as usual at MSG and that is not good at all...

There's still so much time left for him to make further moves and until Melo makes his decision there's not much Phil can do. We'll be able to move on soon enough as Melo will have to announce soon.

NardDogNation wrote:It seems that everyone is all gravy and sunshine about the guy but the unfolding of events this offseason have been alarming to me. We've all talked about the lure of playing for Phil Jackson, myself included, but the hype has yet to intersect reality. How well did it work out in our pursuit of Steve Kerr?

Now, I'm starting to hear confirmations that Pau Gasol, an offseason target of ours, is taking a MLE offer from a Bulls team that can't offer him much more than we can. To add insult to injury, they'll still have Taj Gibson and are adding Nikola Mirotic, which leaves very little playing time for a player of his caliber.

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't a big reason for acquiring Jose Calderon, was to serve as a lure for Pau Gasol because they were besties? So what happened to that plan exactly? Now with Pau Gasol in Chicago, who is going to lure Marc Gasol to New York in this ill-conceived, basketball rendition of Ocean's Eleven?

At this point, I'm not very impressed with the dude. If he can't get his own people that he's had years of rapport with, how the hell is he going go attract the Kevin Durant's, Anthony Davis' and the ever shrinking pool of superstars/inevitable superstars to New York? If you want to know why Carmelo hasn't re-signed yet, it probably would have something to do with that and the fact that a Jose Calderon is cause for celebration for this franchise.

Strong candidate for worst thread of the year. Keep up the good work

Oh noes!!!! Phil didn't fix one of the worst situations in the league in 4 1/2 months. I have my doubts!!

tkf wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:It seems that everyone is all gravy and sunshine about the guy but the unfolding of events this offseason have been alarming to me. We've all talked about the lure of playing for Phil Jackson, myself included, but the hype has yet to intersect reality. How well did it work out in our pursuit of Steve Kerr?

Now, I'm starting to hear confirmations that Pau Gasol, an offseason target of ours, is taking a MLE offer from a Bulls team that can't offer him much more than we can. To add insult to injury, they'll still have Taj Gibson and are adding Nikola Mirotic, which leaves very little playing time for a player of his caliber.

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't a big reason for acquiring Jose Calderon, was to serve as a lure for Pau Gasol because they were besties? So what happened to that plan exactly? Now with Pau Gasol in Chicago, who is going to lure Marc Gasol to New York in this ill-conceived, basketball rendition of Ocean's Eleven?

At this point, I'm not very impressed with the dude. If he can't get his own people that he's had years of rapport with, how the hell is he going go attract the Kevin Durant's, Anthony Davis' and the ever shrinking pool of superstars/inevitable superstars to New York? If you want to know why Carmelo hasn't re-signed yet, it probably would have something to do with that and the fact that a Jose Calderon is cause for celebration for this franchise.

I SAID This from the start.. phil is a GREAT coach, but we know nothing about him as a GM... I said this!!

one thing is true, he came into a messy situation here and even the best GM would have a tough time getting this ship on a solid course again.... If phil was not brought here to rebuild then It's back to business as usual at MSG and that is not good at all...

Sweet baby Jesus, we are agreeing with each other, lol. Never thought I'd see the day. But yes, I agree with you wholeheartedly.

No doubt, Phil Jackson walked into a tough gig but it feels like he's made or is willing to make the same fatal errors that have done us in, in the past. You know I'm as big of a Melo fan as they come BUT the dude is 30 and giving him to max feels a lot like the Allan Houston situation before he blew out his knees. With the amount of stress Melo puts on his body, I don't expect him to remain healthy for much longer. The dude is already starting to breakdown having had shoulder issue and surgery on both knees and an elbow or wrist. As for the Dallas trade, it felt like a lot of nice little things that don't ever materialize into anything substantive, long-term (see the David Lee trade and the dudes doing backflips for Anthony Randolph). I know dudes are desperate for hope but it's difficult for me to ignore the history and the very apparent parallel's that are arising with our present.

Why having the Zen Master if he can't impose his will over real people with families like Kerr? Why can't he get players like Gasol when another team only has more money and a better team to offer? He is supposed to mind-control them! Wasn't that why we brought him in the first place? He showed his talent mind-controlling Dolan, according to reports. And that in itself is a feat, given Dolan's little resources in that regard.

Fire this Phil guy already!

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