BRIGGS wrote:I dont want to give players away just to get rid of them--Lebron was one thing but that is not happening. Well have a better chance to win with those guys and we need the size. Let them just come off the cap next year and play their way into contracts themselves.

Completely disagree!

BRIGGS wrote:I dont want to give players away just to get rid of them--Lebron was one thing but that is not happening. Well have a better chance to win with those guys and we need the size. Let them just come off the cap next year and play their way into contracts themselves.

Until we have better replacements, there is no reason to exile them which usually has a cost. Bargnani I have HOPE that he is healthy and the triangle revives his career and after 4 years of Amare I'd like to see him succeed and help the knicks!

More hope than logic, but this is the fan in me.

Nalod wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I dont want to give players away just to get rid of them--Lebron was one thing but that is not happening. Well have a better chance to win with those guys and we need the size. Let them just come off the cap next year and play their way into contracts themselves.

Until we have better replacements, there is no reason to exile them which usually has a cost. Bargnani I have HOPE that he is healthy and the triangle revives his career and after 4 years of Amare I'd like to see him succeed and help the knicks!

More hope than logic, but this is the fan in me.

That's a very good point. I think Phil would have made a deal at any cost if he had an agreement in principle with a player he felt was worth the effort. However, you do not do a deal like Clevland just did with Jack on blind faith. There is just not any valuable FAs in this class to do that for.

If the Knicks had space I would have love for them to go after stephenson but I would be concerned about him being back in NY. I would probably only do a 2 yr/$15M deal.

yellowboy90 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

mreinman wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I dont want to give players away just to get rid of them--Lebron was one thing but that is not happening. Well have a better chance to win with those guys and we need the size. Let them just come off the cap next year and play their way into contracts themselves.

Completely disagree!

Why? Give me something to read you lazy bum

They're both bad defensively and you can't rely on either of them health wise.

Granted on both points. (And Stat's contract isn't insured.)

So if you know those two points, why would anyone else take either one, and give us anything in return?

CrushAlot wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I dont want to give players away just to get rid of them--Lebron was one thing but that is not happening. Well have a better chance to win with those guys and we need the size. Let them just come off the cap next year and play their way into contracts themselves.

Until we have better replacements, there is no reason to exile them which usually has a cost. Bargnani I have HOPE that he is healthy and the triangle revives his career and after 4 years of Amare I'd like to see him succeed and help the knicks!

More hope than logic, but this is the fan in me.

That's a very good point. I think Phil would have made a deal at any cost if he had an agreement in principle with a player he felt was worth the effort. However, you do not do a deal like Clevland just did with Jack on blind faith. There is just not any valuable FAs in this class to do that for.

If the Knicks had space I would have love for them to go after stephenson but I would be concerned about him being back in NY. I would probably only do a 2 yr/$15M deal.

I think Melo really wants Pau. If the Knicks could get Pau I think Marc comes next year.

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I dont want to give players away just to get rid of them--Lebron was one thing but that is not happening. Well have a better chance to win with those guys and we need the size. Let them just come off the cap next year and play their way into contracts themselves.

Until we have better replacements, there is no reason to exile them which usually has a cost. Bargnani I have HOPE that he is healthy and the triangle revives his career and after 4 years of Amare I'd like to see him succeed and help the knicks!

More hope than logic, but this is the fan in me.

That's a very good point. I think Phil would have made a deal at any cost if he had an agreement in principle with a player he felt was worth the effort. However, you do not do a deal like Clevland just did with Jack on blind faith. There is just not any valuable FAs in this class to do that for.

If the Knicks had space I would have love for them to go after stephenson but I would be concerned about him being back in NY. I would probably only do a 2 yr/$15M deal.

I think Melo really wants Pau. If the Knicks could get Pau I think Marc comes next year.

Phil wants Pau i mean he is the GM lol. However im not sure Pau wuld accept the mid level

There has been a buzz about Melo wanting Pau for awhile.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24606922/report-carmelo-wants-to-talk-to-pau-gasol-about-joining-knicks

yellowboy90 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I dont want to give players away just to get rid of them--Lebron was one thing but that is not happening. Well have a better chance to win with those guys and we need the size. Let them just come off the cap next year and play their way into contracts themselves.

Until we have better replacements, there is no reason to exile them which usually has a cost. Bargnani I have HOPE that he is healthy and the triangle revives his career and after 4 years of Amare I'd like to see him succeed and help the knicks!

More hope than logic, but this is the fan in me.

That's a very good point. I think Phil would have made a deal at any cost if he had an agreement in principle with a player he felt was worth the effort. However, you do not do a deal like Clevland just did with Jack on blind faith. There is just not any valuable FAs in this class to do that for.

If the Knicks had space I would have love for them to go after stephenson but I would be concerned about him being back in NY. I would probably only do a 2 yr/$15M deal.

BRIGGS wrote:I dont want to give players away just to get rid of them--Lebron was one thing but that is not happening. Well have a better chance to win with those guys and we need the size. Let them just come off the cap next year and play their way into contracts themselves.

Lets see how they fit the triangle first, the problem with Amare and Bargs is both are low IQ players. I wouldnt mind STAT back but no way am I giving him the MLE type deal and he probably gets that

CrushAlot wrote:

Rookie wrote:Houston might have to dump Jones & Motlejunas w/o taking salary back. To bad we have Bargs & Stat taking up cap space. Wonder if our trade exception and cash/or a future pick could get it done

One guy makes 1.5 mil the other 1.6. I think the Knicks could do get them for guys without guaranteed money (i.e. Odom) or possibly the trade exception. I wonder if Morey includes them in a Lin deal. Both are good prospects.

Good catch, didn't think of that