In contrast, Jose Calderon at 33 years old is owed $22 million over those same 3 years. His stat line as a starter? 11.4ppg, 2.4rpg, 4.7apg and 0.9spg in 30.5mpg. His shooting? 45.6 FG% and 44.9 3FG%.

Those numbers are not enough to establish anything concrete, so take them with a grain of salt. But I think it's hard to pretend that Calderon's play is great bang for our buck.

NardDogNation wrote:Darren Collision reportedly has agreed to terms with the Sacramento Kings for $16 million over 3 years. At 26 years old, and as a starter, he averaged 14.8ppg, 2.3rpg, 5.3apg and 1.5spg in 33.8mpg. For the efficient crowd, he also shot 48.1% from the field and 41.7% from 3.

In contrast, Jose Calderon at 33 years old is owed $22 million over those same 3 years. His stat line as a starter? 11.4ppg, 2.4rpg, 4.7apg and 0.9spg in 30.5mpg. His shooting? 45.6 FG% and 44.9 3FG%.

Those numbers are not enough to establish anything concrete, so take them with a grain of salt. But I think it's hard to pretend that Calderon's play is great bang for our buck.

#s don't explain his worth, and why is collison on the move so much..5th team in 5 yrs, I'm more conern about that

GustavBahler wrote:Calderon is more than likely a temporary fix. Don't like the contract either but Calderon is only part of what we got back in return. We will have the cap room to upgrade the position in 2015. Hopefully he will help Bargs fit in better with the offense. Tyson and Felton are gone, thats a big plus.

Upgrade to who? there's no list of top pg's in the 2015 FA class, unless were going to draft a player and trade him for an elite pg with our cap space..

NardDogNation wrote:Darren Collision reportedly has agreed to terms with the Sacramento Kings for $16 million over 3 years. At 26 years old, and as a starter, he averaged 14.8ppg, 2.3rpg, 5.3apg and 1.5spg in 33.8mpg. For the efficient crowd, he also shot 48.1% from the field and 41.7% from 3.

In contrast, Jose Calderon at 33 years old is owed $22 million over those same 3 years. His stat line as a starter? 11.4ppg, 2.4rpg, 4.7apg and 0.9spg in 30.5mpg. His shooting? 45.6 FG% and 44.9 3FG%.

Those numbers are not enough to establish anything concrete, so take them with a grain of salt. But I think it's hard to pretend that Calderon's play is great bang for our buck.

Finding great signings to teams that had cap space and comparing them to us having to make salaries match to dump Felton and chandler is just fool's gold.

Calderone is an upgrade over Felton. Chandler is gone.

Win win.

NardDogNation wrote:Darren Collision reportedly has agreed to terms with the Sacramento Kings for $16 million over 3 years. At 26 years old, and as a starter, he averaged 14.8ppg, 2.3rpg, 5.3apg and 1.5spg in 33.8mpg. For the efficient crowd, he also shot 48.1% from the field and 41.7% from 3.

In contrast, Jose Calderon at 33 years old is owed $22 million over those same 3 years. His stat line as a starter? 11.4ppg, 2.4rpg, 4.7apg and 0.9spg in 30.5mpg. His shooting? 45.6 FG% and 44.9 3FG%.

Those numbers are not enough to establish anything concrete, so take them with a grain of salt. But I think it's hard to pretend that Calderon's play is great bang for our buck.

Did you just use Collinson's numbers in 35 games versus someone who played 82 games? Why not use the season as a whole or more seasons to get a better grasp of their numbers. No need to go Cherry picking

NardDogNation wrote:Darren Collision reportedly has agreed to terms with the Sacramento Kings for $16 million over 3 years. At 26 years old, and as a starter, he averaged 14.8ppg, 2.3rpg, 5.3apg and 1.5spg in 33.8mpg. For the efficient crowd, he also shot 48.1% from the field and 41.7% from 3.

In contrast, Jose Calderon at 33 years old is owed $22 million over those same 3 years. His stat line as a starter? 11.4ppg, 2.4rpg, 4.7apg and 0.9spg in 30.5mpg. His shooting? 45.6 FG% and 44.9 3FG%.

Those numbers are not enough to establish anything concrete, so take them with a grain of salt. But I think it's hard to pretend that Calderon's play is great bang for our buck.

Knicks did not have cap space to sign anyone higher than the MLE so it is folly to pull an isolated signing and form a comparison. The only way Collison could have come to the Knicks is via a sign and trade with the Clips. Further, any trade package the Knicks made had to bring back equal salary. You seem to be on a mission to discredit the trade. Yes Calderon's contract is less than ideal, but you have to consider the entire trade package.

Calderon
Larkin
Ellington
Dalambert
Early
Thanasis Ante.
3.6 Million Trade Exception towards the Cap

knicks1248 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:Darren Collision reportedly has agreed to terms with the Sacramento Kings for $16 million over 3 years. At 26 years old, and as a starter, he averaged 14.8ppg, 2.3rpg, 5.3apg and 1.5spg in 33.8mpg. For the efficient crowd, he also shot 48.1% from the field and 41.7% from 3.

In contrast, Jose Calderon at 33 years old is owed $22 million over those same 3 years. His stat line as a starter? 11.4ppg, 2.4rpg, 4.7apg and 0.9spg in 30.5mpg. His shooting? 45.6 FG% and 44.9 3FG%.

Those numbers are not enough to establish anything concrete, so take them with a grain of salt. But I think it's hard to pretend that Calderon's play is great bang for our buck.

#s don't explain his worth, and why is collison on the move so much..5th team in 5 yrs, I'm more conern about that

You are aware of the fact that Jose Calderon has played on 4 teams in 4 years, right?

GustavBahler wrote:Calderon is more than likely a temporary fix. Don't like the contract either but Calderon is only part of what we got back in return. We will have the cap room to upgrade the position in 2015. Hopefully he will help Bargs fit in better with the offense. Tyson and Felton are gone, thats a big plus.

I can't expect anyone to seriously contemplate him being a mainstay on the roster BUT who is going to take him for that kind of money? Is he really $6 million better than a Darren Collision? Trading him is going to be a much bigger problem than has been let on. I just hope he doesn't lose a step in the immediate future because I could easily see him morphing into our new Raymond Felton but with a longer contract. I would've preferred that we dump Chandler and Felton for nothing (with the opportunity to get Collision at his figure) than what we did.