When the Clippers/Knicks rumors hit us at the trade deadline this year it was Melo for Blake Griffin....That to me is a great trade for us but makes no sense for the Clipps. They need to keep Griffin and still pick up Melo....they have the players to move to make it happen.

DeAndre Jordan can't shoot free throws to save his life but he is a beast on the boards, transition and on defense. He's basically a young/stronger version of Tyson.....We could send Melo in a sign and trade and take back Jordan(he's an expiring deal), Jamal Crawford and Matt Barnes...maybe Raymond Felton can take a ride to LA with Melo since they need a back up point guard now...for you draft hoes they can throw in some of their picks starting with their 2014 pick.

What you say suckas?

Melo and Felton for DeAndre Jordan, Jamal Crawford, Matt Barnes, 2014 draft pick #28 and maybe a future pick.

I'm not expecting Tyson to be around much longer fyi

Sending CA out WEST and not build our contenders stronger
Getting rid of Felton, possibly even JR Smith (though we could gamble and keep him, hoping he regains his physical abilities and be able to play like he did during his contract year in a SYSTEM without CA demanding constant 1v1's)
Getting us serviceable role players, possibly even still use with bird rights for our future

For CA, he gets to team up with his good friend CP3 and living with his family/wife/kids
Though he still might need to take a paycut to make it happen and not with his preferred buddy in Lebron, but he will be the #1 option with Blake Griffen, but he will be able to shoot 3's with Redick/Bullock spacing the floor in addition to CP3's ability to penetrate/facilitate/ and say NO to him, along with Blake's ability to POST UP though he might be playing Center, but they still have the ability to utilize the 3m MLE, if they move Redick they can have the fully 5m MLE, not sure if the 3.2m will even be enough to keep Darren Collison

Draft picks CLippers own are limited though

This Summer, Picks

pick 28

POSSIBLY 2016 2nd round draft pick

and

2017 2nd round draft pick

They might be able to convince both Granger, Turkoglu, and Big Baby and Glen Davis to come back on a 2 year vet min deal with player options with a slight increase vs another team for the vet min

Knicks outgoing
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CA
Felton

Pablo/JR Smith??? Doubt we can afford to trade JR because CA would need to take a massive pay cut, however we could insist on them taking Pablo's contract with the lack of assets we get back

Clippers outgoing
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DeAndre Jordan (expiring) 11.45m
Matt Barnes (team option and serviceable SF despite his age that I always liked) 3.4m and TEAM option for 2015/16

Either Jamal Crawford ($5,450,000 $5,675,000) or/and Jared Dudley (4.25m every year with player option for 2015-16 expiring with
Reggie Bullock
Willie Green as a throw in to add contracts up (1.5m)

adding up to about 26m + if we get both Jamal Crawford and Dudley

Picks 28

2016 and 2017 2nd rounders

So, if we do not give JR Smith to satisfy CA's desired contract, with Felton and possibly Pablo, CA's contract could be in the same ball park as CP3 at about 20m and could rise if we add in Bullock to as high as 22-23m

I think this deal is "FAIR if they take back Felton/Pablo's contract" though their draft picks are quite limited and low
In any case, we still move both Tyson Chandler/Iman to OKC and eventually JR Smith and possibly Tim Hardaway JR if a team is willing to pay heavily for their services around the deadline

I think melo paired with his superfriend Chris Paul is a better pairing.

Then, Melo and La La can star in the sequel to "Kill Donald Pulp Unchained" as directed by Tarintino. The story of Clippers getting Taken over by Marcellus Wallace who now owns most of Los Angeles and makes "Donald gone, and he stays gone" by "Getting Mid-Evil on his ass". La La plays V. Stavanio and Melo is a Modern Django who instead of killing plantation owners, he "removes Coach's".

New character played by Special Nate is introduced as the well endowed "little person" who makes Shelly Starling "Sellout"!!!

script is a mess and needs a rewrite.

tkf wrote:HOW DOES that trade help the clippers? they have scoring, they need a defensive SG who can also score the ball a bit... Honestly someone like shumpert if he can ever get back to what he was a couple of years ago helps their cause.....

So they need a defensive specialist? Thabo from okc is a free agent. I guess if they sign him they win the championship....cuz his defense is going to bring more to the team than Melo ever could.

Yeah....ok

EnySpree wrote:

tkf wrote:HOW DOES that trade help the clippers? they have scoring, they need a defensive SG who can also score the ball a bit... Honestly someone like shumpert if he can ever get back to what he was a couple of years ago helps their cause.....

So they need a defensive specialist? Thabo from okc is a free agent. I guess if they sign him they win the championship....cuz his defense is going to bring more to the team than Melo ever could.

Yeah....ok

actually I gave you an example, not sure why you went to thabo... but a defensive wing who can get you a few points would help them a lot.. won't guarantee anything.. Just like getting carmelo won't guarantee them a championship, actually not sure how it even makes them better... please stop with the add carmelo and you win crap... the dude has won nowhere, don't you get it yet????

Actually the clippers could use Tony Allen!!

EnySpree wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Yeah so I'm in full off season mode....these trade scenarios are a lot of fun to play with.

When the Clippers/Knicks rumors hit us at the trade deadline this year it was Melo for Blake Griffin....That to me is a great trade for us but makes no sense for the Clipps. They need to keep Griffin and still pick up Melo....they have the players to move to make it happen.

DeAndre Jordan can't shoot free throws to save his life but he is a beast on the boards, transition and on defense. He's basically a young/stronger version of Tyson.....We could send Melo in a sign and trade and take back Jordan(he's an expiring deal), Jamal Crawford and Matt Barnes...maybe Raymond Felton can take a ride to LA with Melo since they need a back up point guard now...for you draft hoes they can throw in some of their picks starting with their 2014 pick.

What you say suckas?

Melo and Felton for DeAndre Jordan, Jamal Crawford, Matt Barnes, 2014 draft pick #28 and maybe a future pick.

I'm not expecting Tyson to be around much longer fyi

I'd say no. If LAC "needs" Griffin, they most certainly need the only rim protector that the team has. Scoring wasn't a problem for them, so I fail to see the need for Melo.

Conversely, I don't like the idea of taking back Crawford and Barnes' contracts. They serve no real purpose to a rebuilding team and would make matters worse by winning games. If Melo leaves, we need to adopt a scorched Earth policy and leave nothing behind on this team aside from youth, cap flexibility and picks.

The clippers could get a center to fill in. Same way the Knicks will find a Tyson replacement when we trade his sorry ass....In this scenario Jordan would be that guy

Guys that can do what Jordan does and at the level he does it, do not come along very often. I don't think he will be easy to replace, even if all you were looking for is the poor man's version of him.

meloshouldgo wrote:I think Jordan is a better player than Tyson. No way they make this trade

Jordan is the younger player but I wouldn't say he is better. The one thing Tyson has going for him is that he can knock down FTs which keeps him on the floor.

I doubt they would make a trade for Tyson though.

franco12 wrote:this is the trade I thought we should have tried last year when the rumors started - be realistic, Blake is not being traded for Carmelo. But, getting back Jordan, filler and picks might be the best to expect.

Then, Chandler & Shump to OKC for picks, youth, filler - and you might be as restocked and repositioned as you could hope for given that Anthony may leave for nothing.

That's all I'm saying.

EnySpree wrote:Also scoring isn't a problem for the clippers. But that's what everyone says about the Knicks. Adding a defensive bum like tony Allen or whoever does nothing. Clippers have defensive guys on their team. Shit Shump is supposed to be the next version of Alvin Robertson according to some.

What matters in sports is the right fit and having guys fit chemistry wise. The Knicks can score but we stuck because of more than just adding a defensive player. The clippers lost because they don't quite have the right mix and Blake and Paul are working too hard. Melo on that squad takes pressure off Paul and Blake. It also let's the roll players feed off them better. So when you look at it like that you see that it is a good trade for them that takes them over the top in the west. Now they could beat a okc or a San Antonio. They still have to play the games but this trade makes sense. Most importantly it sets the Knicks up for the future, especially if you add what we get for moving tyson.

tony allen has been a key players on some winning teams. That bum has WON!!! Clippers have no defensive identity, no toughness, Allen would add that, trust me he would.

What matters in sports is the right fit and having guys fit chemistry wise.

ok so where does carmelo help in any of those areas.. Allen already proven that he has added value in those areas..

as far as shumpert goes, he is overrated but the clippers have shown real interest in him.. kind of lets you know what they are looking for.. actually I think they had a deal for shumpert until the thunder blew that up sort of..

Melo on that squad takes pressure off Paul and Blake. It also let's the roll players feed off them better.

He didn't do that here, what makes you think he will do that there... paul and blake are not working to hard at all, what are you talking about? those guys have holes defending and that is what they need to work on... carmelo is not a fix all, if so the knicks would not be such a mess, with so many holes..

who on the knicks has carmelo helped? sure hasn't been amare, or felton, he didn't help lin.. not chandler....

Most importantly it sets the Knicks up for the future, especially if you add what we get for moving tyson.

most importantly for who? why should the clippers make a deal to set the knicks up? and hurt themselves..