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franco12
Posts: 34069 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 2/19/2004 Member: #599 USA |
![]() knicks1248 wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:I like your optimism but i dont think they fit well together or have ever fit. i mena we have been hearing "this is the year melo/amare domiante" for almost 4 years and it hasne happened. Next year most likely will be a transition year so we can get cap space and try again in 2015Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple. I doubt we can pull of that kind of S&T of Melo and include Amar'e to the same team, but wow if we could |
dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
![]() knicks1248 wrote:Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple. they are the core of a "clumsy roster." no way they should be on the floor together. knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
![]() dk7th wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple. maybe you should look at the triangle system again ES
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StarksEwing1
Posts: 32671 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/28/2012 Member: #4451 |
![]() knicks1248 wrote:Against i respect your optimism BUT have to be realistic. It simply hasnt worked out its not a bad thing to move onStarksEwing1 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:I like your optimism but i dont think they fit well together or have ever fit. i mena we have been hearing "this is the year melo/amare domiante" for almost 4 years and it hasne happened. Next year most likely will be a transition year so we can get cap space and try again in 2015Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple. |
knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
![]() StarksEwing1 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Against i respect your optimism BUT have to be realistic. It simply hasnt worked out its not a bad thing to move onStarksEwing1 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:I like your optimism but i dont think they fit well together or have ever fit. i mena we have been hearing "this is the year melo/amare domiante" for almost 4 years and it hasne happened. Next year most likely will be a transition year so we can get cap space and try again in 2015Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple.
Not to mention they played less the 25 games together for any real length of time, and Never had a training camp together. ES
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StarksEwing1
Posts: 32671 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/28/2012 Member: #4451 |
![]() knicks1248 wrote:Again i really do respect your optimism because it shows you are a passionate fan but they simply dont fit together no matter the injuries they ahve had plenty of time together it just doenst fit well because bith are below average defenders and both need the ball. Plus Melo is probably gone anyway and the only reason Amare is still here is ebcause he knew by opting out he would lose millions(believe me the knicks would ahve loved for him to opt out)StarksEwing1 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Against i respect your optimism BUT have to be realistic. It simply hasnt worked out its not a bad thing to move onStarksEwing1 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:I like your optimism but i dont think they fit well together or have ever fit. i mena we have been hearing "this is the year melo/amare domiante" for almost 4 years and it hasne happened. Next year most likely will be a transition year so we can get cap space and try again in 2015Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple. |
dk7th
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![]() knicks1248 wrote:dk7th wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple. trust me i have given this plenty of thought. but where do you see stoudemire playing in the triangle? or melo? knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
![]() dk7th wrote:knicks1248 wrote:dk7th wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple. the same way horace grant, and gasol did, the mid range jumper is always their for a PF in the triangle ES
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franco12
Posts: 34069 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 2/19/2004 Member: #599 USA |
![]() knicks1248 wrote:dk7th wrote:knicks1248 wrote:dk7th wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple. On paper - I agree that Melo and Amar'e should be able to co-exist like Horace Grant & Jordan, or Gasol & Kobe. But on paper, Bargs should have helped us more last year than he did, even when healthy. On paper, losing Jason Kidd should not have hurt as much as it may have. There is on paper - and I agree with you- but there's fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice or thrice, shame on me! |
fishmike
Posts: 53864 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
![]() franco12 wrote:totally agree and that is why despite the fact that the NBA is a player's league coaches still make $5mm a year, to figure those things out. Its Fisher's job to put those guys in a spot where they can help the team.knicks1248 wrote:dk7th wrote:knicks1248 wrote:dk7th wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple. Look at the Knicks. Focus on these players: 6 rotation guys who you have absolutley no clue what your getting from them. All could play meaningful roles. All can impact games. All can also be total non factors for a variety of reasons. Fisher has a lot of figuring out to do, and not of it all bad. I always root hard for Amare. Fingers crossed. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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GustavBahler
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![]() Have to admire Stat's heart, the man never gives up, but at this point he should focus on being just reliable.
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dk7th
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![]() knicks1248 wrote:dk7th wrote:knicks1248 wrote:dk7th wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple. you have to be able to pass the ball in the triangle. stoudemire does not see the court, does not pass well, and he sure as hell can't play with his back to the basket. his lower body is weak so he can be pushed off the post fairly easily. where does melo fit? please don't tell me you envision him in the jordan/bryant role. knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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yellowboy90
Posts: 33942 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/23/2011 Member: #3538 |
![]() dk7th wrote:knicks1248 wrote:dk7th wrote:knicks1248 wrote:dk7th wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple. Playing with his back to the basket is pretty much all he has done the last two years. His passing sucks but scoring in post ups is probably where most his points come from. |
knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
![]() First i hear Amare is a Iso guy who needs the ball all the time, then i hear Amare needs a PG like nash or the 2010 felton.
I don't see how a guy who can finish around the rim, and hit mid range jumpers can be a problem in any system. I could definitely relate to the defensive side of things. ES
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yellowboy90
Posts: 33942 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/23/2011 Member: #3538 |
![]() knicks1248 wrote:First i hear Amare is a Iso guy who needs the ball all the time, then i hear Amare needs a PG like nash or the 2010 felton. offensively he works in most systems when it comes to scoring but the problem is that when he isn;t scoring he brings almost nothing to the table. Amar'e has done a good job reinventing himself and hopefully he will learn to pass under phil and his knee issues are over. If he was healthy and getting 5M a year people would probably praise him like he was Scola or someone like that. |
knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
![]() 3 of the main reason I like what Amare brings
1)He gets to the line, he was 2nd on the team in FT's made and attempt despite being 8th in mins played. His main attribute is finishing around the rim (thats why he's so efficient), so im not sure why some here say he should pass more. 2)He Will buy in to any coaches system, thats very important. 3)He's a high character guy, and solid teammate, works hard, willing to learn, I mean the list of positves is way longer than the list of negatives. Injuries & Defense, and those 2 negatives pretty much trumps all of his positives. Maybe some of you should take a hard look around the league, BIG MEN ARE PREMIUM in today's NBA, and almost none of them are consistent, most are all face up big men, in fact I can't really think of one dominate PF in the damn league. ES
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