EnySpree wrote:Masterbate to that you draft class flunkies....

Melo will walk and leave the Knicks with no picks. Thanks to Phil Jackson's big mouth.

dacash wrote:kyle anderson
elfrid payton
clint capela

Clint Capella is the only guy that figures to be available that late in the draft and to be honest, I'm not terribly impressed with what I've seen from him. If we could get Payton and Anderson though, I wouldn't even miss Melo or Chandler.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Masterbate to that you draft class flunkies....

EnySpree why do you have so much hatred for draft picks? Nobody si saying the Knicks have to ONLY build thorugh the draft. Fans are just saying that draft picks are important to help fill out a good team. You might not want to hear this EnySpree but Starphuching for the past 15 years has actually put us in a worse position(mostly losing seasons and 1 playoff round win}

EnySpree wrote:I'm just saying most of the drama on this board is surrounding draft picks....I know the history, we all know out history of trading picks....now what if we did trade Melo and Tyson and got 3 picks....what the **** would we even do with them? Nobody here can give me 3 players they want outside of Tyler Ennis or Shabazz Napier at the end of the first round.

I just want to say a lot of you guys complain to much and really don't know what you are talking about. A lot of you ignored this thread or commented and still haven't said who you would draft with these picks.....you would rather dance around and start arguments over some irrelevant topic you pulled out your ass.

It's not about Starphuching because we have a team full of "stars" as is....the knicks always have stars....problem has always been the wrong fit and bad luck.

All I want is the question answered from the title of this thread you know it all don't know nothing ricky retardo looking mother****ers

Who exactly is advocating that we trade Melo for end-of-the-first-round picks? More importantly, who thinks we'd be a better team with picks instead of Melo? I've kinda been M.I.A. recently but I don't think the bulk of posters are happy to see Melo go. The reality is that he is likely leaving and that we need to make the best of the circumstances.

For whatever it's worth, I'd draft the following with the 21st, 25th and 29th picks:
21st: Kristaps Porzingis
25th: Tyler Ennis
29th: Spencer Dinwiddie

None of those guys will turn us into a winner but they will be key rotation players for years to come.

NardDogNation wrote:

EnySpree wrote:I'm just saying most of the drama on this board is surrounding draft picks....I know the history, we all know out history of trading picks....now what if we did trade Melo and Tyson and got 3 picks....what the **** would we even do with them? Nobody here can give me 3 players they want outside of Tyler Ennis or Shabazz Napier at the end of the first round.

I just want to say a lot of you guys complain to much and really don't know what you are talking about. A lot of you ignored this thread or commented and still haven't said who you would draft with these picks.....you would rather dance around and start arguments over some irrelevant topic you pulled out your ass.

It's not about Starphuching because we have a team full of "stars" as is....the knicks always have stars....problem has always been the wrong fit and bad luck.

All I want is the question answered from the title of this thread you know it all don't know nothing ricky retardo looking mother****ers

Who exactly is advocating that we trade Melo for end-of-the-first-round picks? More importantly, who thinks we'd be a better team with picks instead of Melo? I've kinda been M.I.A. recently but I don't think the bulk of posters are happy to see Melo go. The reality is that he is likely leaving and that we need to make the best of the circumstances.

For whatever it's worth, I'd draft the following with the 21st, 25th and 29th picks:
21st: Kristaps Porzingis
25th: Tyler Ennis
29th: Spencer Dinwiddie

None of those guys will turn us into a winner but they will be key rotation players for years to come.

so we'll fill the roster with rotational players? guys that are marginal starters, bench role players on a playoff team?

when we trade Melo to Houston for lin, asik and the 25th pick and trade Tyson and shump to OKC for perkins and #21 and #29....we will be fighting the Bucks for the worst record in the east and then fighting Clevland for the #1 overall pick and end up finding the Tyrus Thomas's and the whatever bum collage kid, hoping someone becomes something special.

We just sit and do nothing and just become the Clippers back in the day. Minnesota before Kevin Garnett came along.....

H1AND1 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:I'm just saying most of the drama on this board is surrounding draft picks....I know the history, we all know out history of trading picks....now what if we did trade Melo and Tyson and got 3 picks....what the **** would we even do with them? Nobody here can give me 3 players they want outside of Tyler Ennis or Shabazz Napier at the end of the first round.

I just want to say a lot of you guys complain to much and really don't know what you are talking about. A lot of you ignored this thread or commented and still haven't said who you would draft with these picks.....you would rather dance around and start arguments over some irrelevant topic you pulled out your ass.

It's not about Starphuching because we have a team full of "stars" as is....the knicks always have stars....problem has always been the wrong fit and bad luck.

All I want is the question answered from the title of this thread you know it all don't know nothing ricky retardo looking mother****ers

Does it really matter who an anonymous poster on a message board would draft for the Knicks if they happened to draft those picks?!? No, of course not! Does that prove that draft picks aren't important? No, of course not.

I would be thrilled if the Knicks got 3 late picks and I have no freaking clue who they would take! That's the management's and scouting department's job. Just because I can't personally name the 3 best available players doesn't mean jack sheehit.

Come on. Why is it so hard to admit draft picks are nice assets. Nobody is saying we have one way to build a team and draft picks are the only way. Every time I post I say it would be nice to have picks and MAX cap space to build a team. Which by the way is an ongoing process not a cycle of starphucking every couple years with whatever overpriced vet dujour we happen to poach. That strategy hasn't gotten us ANYWHERE. It's time to start building the "right" way and that way values picks as more than just fodder to acquire stiffs who you pray "turn it around" in a new city like Bargnani.

I came up with the idea to get these picks so I don't need to admit to anything....im just frustrated with a lot of you annoying tree fungus eating hippies.

draft picks up the ass and I gave 3 slots and I can't get guys to pick 3 players....but you want picks but say oh that's managements problem....you sound like a Heat fan.

EnySpree wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

EnySpree wrote:I'm just saying most of the drama on this board is surrounding draft picks....I know the history, we all know out history of trading picks....now what if we did trade Melo and Tyson and got 3 picks....what the **** would we even do with them? Nobody here can give me 3 players they want outside of Tyler Ennis or Shabazz Napier at the end of the first round.

I just want to say a lot of you guys complain to much and really don't know what you are talking about. A lot of you ignored this thread or commented and still haven't said who you would draft with these picks.....you would rather dance around and start arguments over some irrelevant topic you pulled out your ass.

It's not about Starphuching because we have a team full of "stars" as is....the knicks always have stars....problem has always been the wrong fit and bad luck.

All I want is the question answered from the title of this thread you know it all don't know nothing ricky retardo looking mother****ers

Who exactly is advocating that we trade Melo for end-of-the-first-round picks? More importantly, who thinks we'd be a better team with picks instead of Melo? I've kinda been M.I.A. recently but I don't think the bulk of posters are happy to see Melo go. The reality is that he is likely leaving and that we need to make the best of the circumstances.

For whatever it's worth, I'd draft the following with the 21st, 25th and 29th picks:
21st: Kristaps Porzingis
25th: Tyler Ennis
29th: Spencer Dinwiddie

None of those guys will turn us into a winner but they will be key rotation players for years to come.

so we'll fill the roster with rotational players? guys that are marginal starters, bench role players on a playoff team?

when we trade Melo to Houston for lin, asik and the 25th pick and trade Tyson and shump to OKC for perkins and #21 and #29....we will be fighting the Bucks for the worst record in the east and then fighting Clevland for the #1 overall pick and end up finding the Tyrus Thomas's and the whatever bum collage kid, hoping someone becomes something special.

We just sit and do nothing and just become the Clippers back in the day. Minnesota before Kevin Garnett came along.....

As I said before, I'm not a proponent of trading Melo for end-of-the-first-round-picks and I'm even less of a fan of trading him to Houston. But if he forces our hand and decides to leave, I would prefer we try to turn lemons into lemonade, instead of doing nothing. No, you're not getting a franchise saver but that doesn't mean we can't build the team as we search for the player(s) that can be. There are bound to be several future free agents that could be changing their address soon (e.g. Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis, etc.) and if we have our supporting cast in order, it'll make us that much more of an attractive destination. Rome wasn't built in a day though, nor will we be. This is going to be a process but if we do it well, it can help to expedite the down periods and to turn this thing around quickly.

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Melo will walk and leave the Knicks with no picks. Thanks to Phil Jackson's big mouth.

LOL. If he leaves it's either because he is a coward that wants an easy ring or he's simply a paperchaser. If Carmelo leaves after fleecing our team and giving us very little success in return then that's just a reflection of his own character, not Phil's "big mouth". Phil has been using basic bargaining tactics in order to get Melo to face the reality that for the next 5 years it is simply not plausible to offer him the super max and expect to win. Melo wants to put the Knicks in a catch-22 saying "I want my money" and "I want to win" when in reality one goal cannot be achieved unless concessions are made for the other. How empty-headed is Melo to refuse arguably the most successful Bball coach of all-time when all PJAX is asking for is one more year of melo's commitment to give the team a chance to turn it around? Melo's decision is on him and no one else.