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babyKnicks
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6/13/2014  8:38 AM
I am extremely encouraged by the spurs beating up the heat with team ball...ball movement, hit the open man, team defense...

Definitely the brand of basketball Phil and fish are talking about constantly.

If the spurs pull it out, the league will take notice...beat the "big any number" with ball movement and team play.

No more isolations, no dunk contests, no celebrating wins in the 7th game of the season.

Get to the playoffs, get to the finals, one game at a time.

Knicks win 52 games next year.

Let's go Knicks. That's amare
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6/13/2014  10:03 AM
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6/13/2014  10:30 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/13/2014  10:31 AM
babyKnicks wrote:I am extremely encouraged by the spurs beating up the heat with team ball...ball movement, hit the open man, team defense...

Definitely the brand of basketball Phil and fish are talking about constantly.

If the spurs pull it out, the league will take notice...beat the "big any number" with ball movement and team play.

No more isolations, no dunk contests, no celebrating wins in the 7th game of the season.

Get to the playoffs, get to the finals, one game at a time.

Knicks win 52 games next year.

To be fair the Spurs are in a class of their own. I mean its very rare to see a team to this good for this long. The Spurs have been great since the late 90's. They are probably the best run organization in the game. Secondly as much as i love the Knicks we probably wont win 52 games next year. the reason is because we hsve too many bad contracts and have no money to make moves and no draft picks. Id rather get a good draft pick in 2015 draft and then we clear salary and go after a few FA next year
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6/13/2014  2:51 PM
babyKnicks wrote:I am extremely encouraged by the spurs beating up the heat with team ball...ball movement, hit the open man, team defense...

Definitely the brand of basketball Phil and fish are talking about constantly.

If the spurs pull it out, the league will take notice...beat the "big any number" with ball movement and team play.

No more isolations, no dunk contests, no celebrating wins in the 7th game of the season.

Get to the playoffs, get to the finals, one game at a time.

Knicks win 52 games next year.

It would be wonderful to see real basketball being played around the league -- love the pace the Spurs are playing -- relentless/unselfish/attacking - basketball at it's very finest.

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6/13/2014  3:01 PM
If the Knicks win 52 next year, I'll buy you a steak dinner babyknicks. That will be the best steak dinner I've ever spent in my whole life.
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6/13/2014  3:51 PM
Knicks win 52?

Nice.

We have no clue what the roster will look like.
NBA off season is always fun!

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6/13/2014  4:09 PM
I love optimism BUT people should be prepared to see next year be a transition year. despite what happens with melo i we still dont have the money or the picks to get more talent. I mean guys like Amare and Bargnani we dont know when they are healthy and they dont play defense. Tyson, felton and jr have regressed as well. I still think 2015 will be the real starting point in Phil turning the team around
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6/13/2014  4:51 PM
I guess this is the first year the Spurs have been running this offense. Why do people over react? Both teams in the finals are team oriented one team just happens to be better this year. Last year Miami won when the spurs were playing the same style. Next year who knows.
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6/13/2014  5:59 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/13/2014  6:00 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:I guess this is the first year the Spurs have been running this offense. Why do people over react? Both teams in the finals are team oriented one team just happens to be better this year. Last year Miami won when the spurs were playing the same style. Next year who knows.

You can't have the big 3 with a young coach and expect them to play team ball. Lebron and wade take turns dominating the ball.....why you think bosh usually comes up short? They dont play team ball like the spurs. That's why I'm happy we finally got a system now to minimize iso ball.

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6/13/2014  6:22 PM
blkexec wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I guess this is the first year the Spurs have been running this offense. Why do people over react? Both teams in the finals are team oriented one team just happens to be better this year. Last year Miami won when the spurs were playing the same style. Next year who knows.

You can't have the big 3 with a young coach and expect them to play team ball. Lebron and wade take turns dominating the ball.....why you think bosh usually comes up short? They dont play team ball like the spurs. That's why I'm happy we finally got a system now to minimize iso ball.

Bosh played big last year and so did miller and battier. Chalmers too. This is just not there year. Those players have been to 4 straight finals two more than the spurs.

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6/13/2014  8:52 PM
We have far too many questions to be projecting the NYK to be a .500 club, let alone 50 wins.
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6/13/2014  9:07 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/13/2014  9:12 PM
babyKnicks wrote:I am extremely encouraged by the spurs beating up the heat with team ball...ball movement, hit the open man, team defense...

Definitely the brand of basketball Phil and fish are talking about constantly.

If the spurs pull it out, the league will take notice...beat the "big any number" with ball movement and team play.

No more isolations, no dunk contests, no celebrating wins in the 7th game of the season.

Get to the playoffs, get to the finals, one game at a time.

Knicks win 52 games next year.

That's fine and dandy, and it's what I want too, but do you think the bums on this team are even capable of that? What's getting lost in all of this Spurs love fest is the fact that Popovich has international players and young, hungry players that are willing to play system basketball. He loves international players because they have fundamentals and passing skills. It's why he rarely drafts kids out of the American system, he thinks the NCAA and the U.S. athletic system is a sham, used to take advantage and profit off of these kids, not to develop and nurture them.

Phil ran the triangle all his life, but he had guys who still took plays off and went iso-ham. After the game 2 loss, the first words out of Popovich's mouth was that the ball stuck. So even his smart, savvy, fundamental team players are prone to this. But we see what they can do when they stick to the plan, but the first step was for these smart players to admit that, and then go back to it.

Is JR "LateNightTweet" Smith this player? Is Iman "15 Cent" Shumpert that player? Dude can't even hit a layup. Is Tyson "CapriPant" Chandler this player? He's been in the league for over a decade and doesn't have a SINGLE post move...let me not even get into the gun packing guy, the knee guy who doesn't know what a defensive rotation is or the savior who never saw a shot he didn't like.

So yes, we can rebuild that way and eventually play that way, but let's stop with this winning 50 plus games and going to the ECF NEXT YEAR.

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6/13/2014  9:48 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
blkexec wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I guess this is the first year the Spurs have been running this offense. Why do people over react? Both teams in the finals are team oriented one team just happens to be better this year. Last year Miami won when the spurs were playing the same style. Next year who knows.

You can't have the big 3 with a young coach and expect them to play team ball. Lebron and wade take turns dominating the ball.....why you think bosh usually comes up short? They dont play team ball like the spurs. That's why I'm happy we finally got a system now to minimize iso ball.

Bosh played big last year and so did miller and battier. Chalmers too. This is just not there year. Those players have been to 4 straight finals two more than the spurs.


Totally agree with yellowboy90

The Heat needs major changes and have the ability to do so if Bosh/Wade/Lebron all opt out though I don not see both Wade and Bosh getting contracts comparable to what they have right now, ESPECIALLY WADE

Wade is another year older, he took a lot of physical abuse during his early years
He is in huge decline, only getting older, I don't think he will ever become close to the former player he once was

While Bosh is still a good player, I don't think he is ALL STAR material either

Chalmers is done, they need to upgrade their PG and give Norris Cole more minutes
Maybe try to get a PG in the draft and sign a player like DJ Augistine/Kendall Marshall/Bayless/Sessions or a SG/SF like Ariza to restore some defense

LOSING Mike Miller to save 6m x 3 (because of 15-18m for tax threshold) was big off their bench, his ability to spread the floor and provide spacing is clearly missed

Battier
Haslem
Greg Odon
Beasley
TD

They do have draft rights to some players in addition to both a 1st rounder and 2nd rounder this summer

Forgot the name but Summers
Justin Hamilton

Question is, will Lebron stay or leave to chase his rings
Only way I see him staying is if they add the talent needed to compete for the future

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6/13/2014  10:33 PM
Before we start calling it team ball - San Antonio probably has the deepest team in the NBA. Not only that, if you look at both team's rosters, how would you rank the players based on talent & what they've shown so far this series?

1. Lebron
2. Duncan
3. Parker
4. Wade (not even close to the dominant guy from the Dallas final - or the broken guy from last year)
After that it's a crapshoot.
5. Leonard
6. Ginobili
7. Bosh

Point is as much fanfare is given to the Miami's big 3 (mostly due to their contracts), they're not getting as much production from their bench. Are they missing Mike Miller? Maybe Eddy Curry?

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6/14/2014  2:56 AM
spurs are a relic.

can that be emulated?

i think phil jax wants to find a way to here.

we shall see.

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6/14/2014  5:48 AM
The Spurs are everything that is right in terms of BB. They've done it the right way for years and have perfected that process. The young players they've been developing have reached a high level and the vets do just enough to make them a near perfect BB team. Popovich has this team so well oiled it's a thing of beauty. Ball and Player movement at it's highest level. Shooters, penetrators, post players and ball movers. They're just a great team and should've won it last year. Now they've reached another level and the Heat are just running out of gas. The Heat role players just can't get it done. Once Pop got thru to Kawhi it pushed the Spurs to a level the Heat can't seem to match.

I'm happy cuz this is the kind of BB Phil wants to bring to NY. Team ball!!!

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6/14/2014  9:03 AM
wha? there is basketball still being played somewhere? it's world cup time, gang.

hey, great for the spurs, i knew they could take down the evil empire

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6/14/2014  10:05 AM
LOL, the spurs are just the better team. They have a big 3, probably the next three best players in this series after Lbj the way wade and bosh have looked... the better role players, the more athletic team, they shoot the three ball. I mean, who thinks this is smoke and mirrors, david versus goliath situation???

So the formula is to have everything but the best player on your team to win a title........ya that's easy to emulate.

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6/14/2014  10:32 AM
Team ball is coming back? Do you watch most of the other teams? The Spurs are on a league of their own and the only reason the Knicks would win 52 next season, with the current roster, is because the East is that bad.
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6/15/2014  8:47 AM
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