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not sure why we're not targeting patrick ewing for head coach, it's time he gets a shot anything else is not acceptable
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IronWillGiroud
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6/7/2014  2:22 PM
this guy is a good people person, he can come in and work with phil to bring us the triangle.

it should be a crime that he hasn't been offered a head coaching job yet. he's a knicks legend, guy deserves to be here.

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6/7/2014  2:30 PM
I'm not of the belief anyone deserves anything except people who've won.

Nothing suggests ewing is a coach let alone head coach material...I'd rather have what a proven winner feels they need.
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6/7/2014  4:04 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/7/2014  4:05 PM
He deserves a shot simply because he's a Knicks legend? Sorry but no he has been an assistant for many many years and has never been given a shot by any team. Why is that? In my opinion it says A LOT, aka he hasn't impressed anyone enough to be hired as head coach. I don't think it's a coincidence. Occam's razor, and all that. Ya know?
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6/7/2014  4:05 PM
Amazed that people continue to take IWG seriously

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The knicks are known to throw their stars under the bus. I asked the question over a month ago and I was told he don't know how to talk. Well with Phil Jackson's new role he better learn how to talk as a GM. I can see why some coaches won't come to New York. Ewing should have an interview. We don't know what he can do as a coach. Give the man a chance.

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6/7/2014  5:49 PM
if we dont know, then let someone else give him a chance.
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6/7/2014  7:52 PM
he never adds anything to this site.. kind of like that annoying mosquito
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knickscity wrote:if we dont know, then let someone else give him a chance.

The ones who Phil Jackson is bringing in never coached a day in their life so don't go there. Patrick Ewing brought many good times to New York. Give the man some credit.

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6/7/2014  11:37 PM
IronWillGiroud wrote:this guy is a good people person, he can come in and work with phil to bring us the triangle.

it should be a crime that he hasn't been offered a head coaching job yet. he's a knicks legend, guy deserves to be here.

he's not considered head coaching material. if he were he would have been given an opportunity by now.

but please lets not forget that he would not deign to coach in the cba-- just like in his playing days, he has too high an opinion of himself to pay dues as a head coach in a lesser situation-- which is what phil jackson did and gregg popovich did before becoming head coaches.

his ego remains an obstacle to his own growth. don't the knicks already have someone who epitomizes this unfortunate human failing?

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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6/7/2014  11:58 PM
dk7th wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:this guy is a good people person, he can come in and work with phil to bring us the triangle.

it should be a crime that he hasn't been offered a head coaching job yet. he's a knicks legend, guy deserves to be here.

he's not considered head coaching material. if he were he would have been given an opportunity by now.
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but please lets not forget that he would not deign to coach in the cba-- just like in his playing days, he has too high an opinion of himself to pay dues as a head coach in a lesser situation-- which is what phil jackson did and gregg popovich did before becoming head coaches.

his ego remains an obstacle to his own growth. don't the knicks already have someone who epitomizes this unfortunate human failing?

Actually he wouldnt coach the Knicks d league team. Smart move on his part. D league coaches at this point are not making the jump to the nba. There is a great head coach in the d league working for the cavs and he hasn't been mentioned as being considered as their new head coach or even for a spot on their staff.

Also, in regards to Ewing and the bay hawks, the Knicks didn't nurture the relationship with the bayhawks at all especially after Grunwald was reassigned. Erie traded C J Leslie for a second round d league pick and the Knicks liked Leslie. Ew, as the lead assistant in Charlotte is doing fine. It will be interesting to see if svg eventually brings Ew in. He has endorsed him as head coach material for years.

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6/8/2014  1:00 AM
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knickscity wrote:if we dont know, then let someone else give him a chance.

The ones who Phil Jackson is bringing in never coached a day in their life so don't go there. Patrick Ewing brought many good times to New York. Give the man some credit.


His career as a player shouldnt be the basis of having him as coach of the team. Phil is hiring the one to carry out his vision.
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6/8/2014  8:07 AM
knickscity wrote:
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knickscity wrote:if we dont know, then let someone else give him a chance.

The ones who Phil Jackson is bringing in never coached a day in their life so don't go there. Patrick Ewing brought many good times to New York. Give the man some credit.


His career as a player shouldnt be the basis of having him as coach of the team. Phil is hiring the one to carry out his vision.

i think it can be a basis. ewing was always a strong leader and leadership is so important in a head coach, because that's what a coach does--- he leads.

ewing has a good heart a good mind and a strong demeanor. why not give him a shot? why only derek fisher??

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dk7th wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:this guy is a good people person, he can come in and work with phil to bring us the triangle.

it should be a crime that he hasn't been offered a head coaching job yet. he's a knicks legend, guy deserves to be here.

he's not considered head coaching material. if he were he would have been given an opportunity by now.
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but please lets not forget that he would not deign to coach in the cba-- just like in his playing days, he has too high an opinion of himself to pay dues as a head coach in a lesser situation-- which is what phil jackson did and gregg popovich did before becoming head coaches.

his ego remains an obstacle to his own growth. don't the knicks already have someone who epitomizes this unfortunate human failing?

Actually he wouldnt coach the Knicks d league team. Smart move on his part. D league coaches at this point are not making the jump to the nba. There is a great head coach in the d league working for the cavs and he hasn't been mentioned as being considered as their new head coach or even for a spot on their staff.

Also, in regards to Ewing and the bay hawks, the Knicks didn't nurture the relationship with the bayhawks at all especially after Grunwald was reassigned. Erie traded C J Leslie for a second round d league pick and the Knicks liked Leslie. Ew, as the lead assistant in Charlotte is doing fine. It will be interesting to see if svg eventually brings Ew in. He has endorsed him as head coach material for years.

it can't be that smart if he is still working for another coach. he isn't head coaching material or he would have been hired as a head coach by now. head coaches have to possess certain skills and attributes.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:this guy is a good people person, he can come in and work with phil to bring us the triangle.

it should be a crime that he hasn't been offered a head coaching job yet. he's a knicks legend, guy deserves to be here.

he's not considered head coaching material. if he were he would have been given an opportunity by now.
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but please lets not forget that he would not deign to coach in the cba-- just like in his playing days, he has too high an opinion of himself to pay dues as a head coach in a lesser situation-- which is what phil jackson did and gregg popovich did before becoming head coaches.

his ego remains an obstacle to his own growth. don't the knicks already have someone who epitomizes this unfortunate human failing?

Actually he wouldnt coach the Knicks d league team. Smart move on his part. D league coaches at this point are not making the jump to the nba. There is a great head coach in the d league working for the cavs and he hasn't been mentioned as being considered as their new head coach or even for a spot on their staff.

Also, in regards to Ewing and the bay hawks, the Knicks didn't nurture the relationship with the bayhawks at all especially after Grunwald was reassigned. Erie traded C J Leslie for a second round d league pick and the Knicks liked Leslie. Ew, as the lead assistant in Charlotte is doing fine. It will be interesting to see if svg eventually brings Ew in. He has endorsed him as head coach material for years.

it can't be that smart if he is still working for another coach. he isn't head coaching material or he would have been hired as a head coach by now. head coaches have to possess certain skills and attributes.

http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/coaching_callups.html

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dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:this guy is a good people person, he can come in and work with phil to bring us the triangle.

it should be a crime that he hasn't been offered a head coaching job yet. he's a knicks legend, guy deserves to be here.

he's not considered head coaching material. if he were he would have been given an opportunity by now.
B
but please lets not forget that he would not deign to coach in the cba-- just like in his playing days, he has too high an opinion of himself to pay dues as a head coach in a lesser situation-- which is what phil jackson did and gregg popovich did before becoming head coaches.

his ego remains an obstacle to his own growth. don't the knicks already have someone who epitomizes this unfortunate human failing?

Actually he wouldnt coach the Knicks d league team. Smart move on his part. D league coaches at this point are not making the jump to the nba. There is a great head coach in the d league working for the cavs and he hasn't been mentioned as being considered as their new head coach or even for a spot on their staff.

Also, in regards to Ewing and the bay hawks, the Knicks didn't nurture the relationship with the bayhawks at all especially after Grunwald was reassigned. Erie traded C J Leslie for a second round d league pick and the Knicks liked Leslie. Ew, as the lead assistant in Charlotte is doing fine. It will be interesting to see if svg eventually brings Ew in. He has endorsed him as head coach material for years.

it can't be that smart if he is still working for another coach. he isn't head coaching material or he would have been hired as a head coach by now. head coaches have to possess certain skills and attributes.

http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/coaching_callups.html

if he hasn't been offered a head coaching job by now then he doesn't have the chops to be a head coach. no shame in that it just is what it is. people need to suspend their sentimentality.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:this guy is a good people person, he can come in and work with phil to bring us the triangle.

it should be a crime that he hasn't been offered a head coaching job yet. he's a knicks legend, guy deserves to be here.

he's not considered head coaching material. if he were he would have been given an opportunity by now.
B
but please lets not forget that he would not deign to coach in the cba-- just like in his playing days, he has too high an opinion of himself to pay dues as a head coach in a lesser situation-- which is what phil jackson did and gregg popovich did before becoming head coaches.

his ego remains an obstacle to his own growth. don't the knicks already have someone who epitomizes this unfortunate human failing?

Actually he wouldnt coach the Knicks d league team. Smart move on his part. D league coaches at this point are not making the jump to the nba. There is a great head coach in the d league working for the cavs and he hasn't been mentioned as being considered as their new head coach or even for a spot on their staff.

Also, in regards to Ewing and the bay hawks, the Knicks didn't nurture the relationship with the bayhawks at all especially after Grunwald was reassigned. Erie traded C J Leslie for a second round d league pick and the Knicks liked Leslie. Ew, as the lead assistant in Charlotte is doing fine. It will be interesting to see if svg eventually brings Ew in. He has endorsed him as head coach material for years.

it can't be that smart if he is still working for another coach. he isn't head coaching material or he would have been hired as a head coach by now. head coaches have to possess certain skills and attributes.

http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/coaching_callups.html

if he hasn't been offered a head coaching job by now then he doesn't have the chops to be a head coach. no shame in that it just is what it is. people need to suspend their sentimentality.

Not sure about Pat. My point is he is better off being an associate head coach working with a guy he coached with in Orlando and Houston then running the bay hawks. The Knicks weren't invested in the bay hawks and the d league isn't a path for future nba head coaches so far.
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IronWillGiroud wrote:
knickscity wrote:
Papabear wrote:
knickscity wrote:if we dont know, then let someone else give him a chance.

The ones who Phil Jackson is bringing in never coached a day in their life so don't go there. Patrick Ewing brought many good times to New York. Give the man some credit.


His career as a player shouldnt be the basis of having him as coach of the team. Phil is hiring the one to carry out his vision.

i think it can be a basis. ewing was always a strong leader and leadership is so important in a head coach, because that's what a coach does--- he leads.

ewing has a good heart a good mind and a strong demeanor. why not give him a shot? why only derek fisher??


The better question is why us? why not all the other teams he's been an assistant for....why didnt they offer him a job?

I can fully understand Fisher from Phil's perspective.....he wants to run the triangle and he wants a coach who can be an extension of him.
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6/8/2014  2:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/8/2014  2:38 PM
knickscity wrote:
Papabear wrote:
knickscity wrote:if we dont know, then let someone else give him a chance.

The ones who Phil Jackson is bringing in never coached a day in their life so don't go there. Patrick Ewing brought many good times to New York. Give the man some credit.


His career as a player shouldnt be the basis of having him as coach of the team. Phil is hiring the one to carry out his vision.

Papabear Says

Man when are you going to get it!!!! Phils vision is Michael Jordan, Scotie Pipen, Shaq, and Kobe none of which we have and when he didn't have one of them he won nothing.
We do not have a Kobe , Shaq or Jordan. So whats nexts ?? Man until we get the best player in the game we will win nothing with the triangle, rectangle , or angle. We can be a good team thats it. Give Phil 2 years here and you guys will be calling for his head.

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6/8/2014  2:37 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/8/2014  2:39 PM
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Time will tell

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CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:this guy is a good people person, he can come in and work with phil to bring us the triangle.

it should be a crime that he hasn't been offered a head coaching job yet. he's a knicks legend, guy deserves to be here.

he's not considered head coaching material. if he were he would have been given an opportunity by now.
B
but please lets not forget that he would not deign to coach in the cba-- just like in his playing days, he has too high an opinion of himself to pay dues as a head coach in a lesser situation-- which is what phil jackson did and gregg popovich did before becoming head coaches.

his ego remains an obstacle to his own growth. don't the knicks already have someone who epitomizes this unfortunate human failing?

Actually he wouldnt coach the Knicks d league team. Smart move on his part. D league coaches at this point are not making the jump to the nba. There is a great head coach in the d league working for the cavs and he hasn't been mentioned as being considered as their new head coach or even for a spot on their staff.

Also, in regards to Ewing and the bay hawks, the Knicks didn't nurture the relationship with the bayhawks at all especially after Grunwald was reassigned. Erie traded C J Leslie for a second round d league pick and the Knicks liked Leslie. Ew, as the lead assistant in Charlotte is doing fine. It will be interesting to see if svg eventually brings Ew in. He has endorsed him as head coach material for years.

it can't be that smart if he is still working for another coach. he isn't head coaching material or he would have been hired as a head coach by now. head coaches have to possess certain skills and attributes.

http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/coaching_callups.html

if he hasn't been offered a head coaching job by now then he doesn't have the chops to be a head coach. no shame in that it just is what it is. people need to suspend their sentimentality.

Not sure about Pat. My point is he is better off being an associate head coach working with a guy he coached with in Orlando and Houston then running the bay hawks. The Knicks weren't invested in the bay hawks and the d league isn't a path for future nba head coaches so far.

Wow, the fact that Bob Thornton was a head coach at any level is truly scary.
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